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Posted by carsanab on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:39 PM
 simpilot34 wrote:

Carlos, people usually tile or shingle their roofs!!!Confused [%-)]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Seriously, looking forward to seeing some pics of da Rufe!!

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:52 PM

Hey all, from what ive deduced about the engines. As the power increased through subsequent improvements, Pratt and Wittney increased thier numbering sequendce. So a R2800,1 was a very early and a R2800,39 was a late engine. The engine modelled in the Tamiya F4U-1 is around a 8, Heres one,

but very strangely, also marked as a 8W is this one, with a circular Ign ring,

yet the later ones had a circular ignition ring as well. So i think im safe with my round one.

 

So what i reckon is, the round ones were far more common. Much easier to manufacture, yet the flat one is probably the original piece from P&W, for the early ones. It looks like to be made out of cast alluminium which might crack with age, hence changing them to a far easier item to produce.

Im quite enjoying this research stuff. And on a Corsair!!! Never thought id see the day LOL.

...Guy

 

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Posted by carsanab on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:34 PM

Well heres a first go at my weathering technique.....looked better before I hit it with a shot dullcoat...there seemed to be more "wear" or transparency to the green...more like the back end of the float...i guess Im going to have to exagerate it a bit knowing now it will tone down...still there are no washes on the float....that should bring it out a bit more...so far so good....I think.......

Carlos

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:53 PM
Very nice Carlos!!Thumbs Up [tup] The elves are doing a great job!!!Wink [;)] Can't wait to see more!!
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:48 AM

"By the end of the war, Pratt & Whitney had turned out 129,505 engines and its licensees had produced another 234,114."- PW Company history.

It would seem that a little variation in detail would naturally creep into the vast subcontract supply chain. Ie do whatever you think is wright! ( a little joke).

Carlos, are you working from a photo? I'm about to rub down the Emily (don't tell Ms. Bondo!), and I'll no doubt get the same effect.

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:38 AM

Carlos- I really like the wear effects you have acheived on that float- nicely done. Approve [^]

 bondoman wrote:

...Ie do whatever you think is wright! ( a little joke).

...I'm about to rub down the Emily (don't tell Ms. Bondo!)...

Disapprove [V]***groan***

Be careful Bill, don't want to experience the wrath of Ms. Bondo!

Frank 

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:59 AM
Carlos-very nice job on the weathered floats.  Can't wait to see more.

Bob

 

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Posted by carsanab on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:46 AM

 bondoman wrote:

"Carlos, are you working from a photo? I'm about to rub down the Emily (don't tell Ms. Bondo!), and I'll no doubt get the same effect.

Mr. Bond-o I have an image that I used to get the idea from , its a color rendering from a Kagero book but mainly im just following the panel lines and what I assume would be natural wear patterns. I then hit the worn areas with a bit of silver colored pencil and will add a dirty wash later, that step is not done yet on the pics.

Takes a bit of time to get it right on my little Rufe....you will take forever on an Emily!! Good luck!!!

Carlos

 

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Posted by jay12472 on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:31 PM

Carlos great job on the float. Are you going to do the  rest of the plane the same way?

Jason

 

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Posted by carsanab on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:22 PM

Thats the idea....its going to take patience....

Bondo..the good thing about this method I noticed , is that if you wear down too much green a bit of drybrushing green over the worn area brings it back without looking like a painted patch.

C

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:25 PM
 bondoman wrote:

Ie do whatever you think is wright! ( a little joke).

LOL, very little,  Duh 


Carlos, i think the wethered effect looks great and with a wash etc, it can only look better still,

...Guy


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Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:00 PM

Carlos, the float looks spot on to my eyes.

Karl

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:04 PM

Hi all, Ive finally got round to posting something. This Tamiya Corsair kit is a fantastic kit. I see why Frank loves them so much. The fit, the plastic, the detail. Im sure this isnt going to be my last. First up, Obviously, i decided to join the outer wings and then cut off the alerons with my 'Bare metal foil' scriber,

In order to get the resin control surfaces in, you have to seriously thin the wing,

I loved what Frank had done with the cowl flaps so did my own interpretation of it,

My method of doing this plane has been a bit wierd, ive had parts started all over the bench, it really looks a mess. I have also started the engine as well, oh and the cockpit. The engine was sprayed with Alclad Steel and then given a dark wash of Van *** brown,

after attaching the resin bittys, i needed to spray the crankcase grey. To do this i cut a circular hole in a piece of card and fitted it over the end. This worked a treat,

anyhoo, ill start detail painting the cockpit and then get some pics of that up. More soon,

...Guy

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Posted by Summit on Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:18 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

I loved what Frank had done with the cowl flaps so did my own interpretation of it,

But Franks actually works by moving the lever in the pit Shock [:O]

 

 Luftwoller wrote:

after attaching the resin bittys, i needed to spray the crankcase grey. To do this i cut a circular hole in a piece of card and fitted it over the end. This worked a treat,

That is the same method I use to paint the props on some aircraft..

Guy - The engine looks to be the Real Deal Thumbs Up [tup] 

Great work, I can hardly wait to see what you pull out of your "magic bag of tricks" next Smile [:)]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:45 PM
Guy-very nice work so far.....watching with interest.  I have a Tamiya Corsair in the stash....and I could use an easy/fun build after this AMTech kit.....Keep us posted.

Bob

 

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:55 PM
van dike?
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Posted by Luftwoller on Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:23 PM

Bondo. I laughed like a drain when i read that. I left a space between Van and the D word and it didnt like it LOL. I just dont care. Bugger bugger bugger,

...Guy

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Posted by eatthis on Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:33 PM

is hms repulese eligable for this?

if so can i get in on it please :) trumpy 1/350 oob im gonna attempt the pe that comes with it too 

 

snow + 4wd + escessive hp = :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egUIS70YM

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Posted by razordws on Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:54 PM

Carlos, I'm a bit late but nice work on the floaty thingy.  I'm really looking forward to seeing the same effect on the aircraft itself.

Guy, nice work Thumbs Up [tup] but don't be lured by the bent wingy dark side or you'll have to change your username (bentwinger?).  

Dave

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, September 25, 2009 5:22 AM
 eatthis wrote:

is hms repulese eligable for this?

if so can i get in on it please :) trumpy 1/350 oob im gonna attempt the pe that comes with it too 

Eat, by all means the Repulse is eligable! Sign - Welcome [#welcome]aboard, Darson, our CO, will need to get your first name as well and will officially welcome you and add you to the frontpage. Looking forward to this one comin together!!! Quite a colored battle history for this lady!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Repulse_(1916)

Guy, the bentwingy thingy is coming along quite well!!!! really looking forward to seeing you wand wavearound it!!!!Wink [;)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Paul E. Styrene on Friday, September 25, 2009 9:07 AM

Hey all, I haven't checked in for a while so I thought I'd make a quick appearance. Got real busy the last few weeks and have just had brief 15-30 minute chunks of time to model.

I got the fuselage closed. This old kit had lots of gaps at the seam so you know the drill: sand, putty, check, repeat. I tried a couple different techniques including gap filling CA, tamiya putty, and even a brush on ceramic repair fluid (which worked pretty well). Last night I finally got it to the point where I think its ready for primer.

I also got the wings put together. I have the same gap problems there so I'll need to go through the same sand, putty, repeat process (hopefully with some longer sessions involved). I'll get some picture up when I go to the paint booth.

Guy - That engine is looking sharp! I've got the same mess on my table - half started pieces everywhere! 

~Gary

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Posted by eatthis on Friday, September 25, 2009 10:27 AM

my names john thanks for the welcome :)

iv also got a tamiya 1/350 prince of wales but thats 99% done 

 

 

heres repulse so far

 




 

snow + 4wd + escessive hp = :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egUIS70YM

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Posted by Summit on Friday, September 25, 2009 10:42 AM

eatthis - Aha ~ I knew it .. your the guy who posted the pic of a "lot" of ships and subs several months back that had about 19 or more vessels in the pic ...right  Confused [%-)] I thought I recongnized that wall Laugh [(-D]

Nice work and collection. I hope to have a fleet like that someday myself..

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by eatthis on Friday, September 25, 2009 10:48 AM
 Summit wrote:

eatthis - Aha ~ I knew it .. your the guy who posted the pic of a "lot" of ships and subs several months back that had about 19 or more vessels in the pic ...right  Confused [%-)] I thought I recongnized that wall Laugh [(-D]

Nice work and collection. I hope to have a fleet like that someday myself..

 

 

 

theres a few more now lol

 

snow + 4wd + escessive hp = :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egUIS70YM

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, September 25, 2009 10:53 AM

Guy- I see there's a new sherrif in town! Cowboy [C):-)]  You're well on your way to a stunning Corsair, and I really can't wait to see one with the Luftwoller Touch. Approve [^]

John- That is quite a fleet you have there!  Are you working on them all at once?

Frank 

 

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Posted by carsanab on Friday, September 25, 2009 11:44 AM

well my Rufe has been "ruffed up" with the worn out/down weathering...decal are down and now just some washes and hightlights with the silver colored pencil..

I was so busy tyring out the new weathring tecnique that I forgot about the painting the canopy framingBanged Head [banghead]... I was looking at the decaled plane and thought to my self...something still looks unfinished besides the dirty wash....DOH!! Looked over and there was the clear sprue still in the baggy...oh well at least I see the light at the end of the tunnel!!!

Another floaty thing almost done!!!

Carlos

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, September 25, 2009 11:52 AM

John-very nice collection of ships.  A lot of impressive modeling there.  I will be interested in following your build.

Carlos-I've not 'forgotten' about the canopies before....I just leave them till last because I hate masking them.  Normally, I'll spend a few $$$ and get the Eduard Pre-cut mask for a kit, but there isn't one for this old AMTech kit, so I had to do it myself.  Tried a different method this time though and it seamed to work a little better than the old 'cut strips of blue painters tape and outline the frames and fill in the rest' method.  This time I used 3M Frosted tape, applied and then cut around the inside of the frame and removed the tape on the frame.  A little easier, better coverage, but still some issues were the framing isn't very well defined.

Good luck on your canopy painting.  Looking forward to seeing more progress pics of your Rufe

Bob

 

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Posted by Dirkpitt289 on Friday, September 25, 2009 12:09 PM
 Dirkpitt289 wrote:

Ok everyone, here is the latest update on the 'el-Cheap-O Testors Dauntless.

Last we left off I had just applied the two tone paint scheme. Since then I drilled out the gun barrels, drilled out the engine exhaust stacks, offset the color of some of the body panels (first attempt), gave it a coat of future and added the decals. Oh. and what model of mine wouldn't be complete without breaking the prop. I was test fitting it and it was snug. As I attempted to remove it it snapped at the shaft.

Next I will attempt to do some weathering

Till next time...

Just a small update to this build. It seems the decals were worse off then I thought (Took a dip in the dogs pool durring a photo shoot). They went on fine but before I could apply another coat of Future they started to raise off the plane. Just about half have fallen off. I went back to the Michael's Craft store where I purchased this 'El-Cheap-O but they don't have any in stock. Neither did another one in the area. This could be an issue.

I could always head over to the LHS and look for some aftermarket decals but knowing me I'll leave with my arms full and my wallet a lot lighter. So for now this little fella will need to be placed on the back burner till I figure out what to do.

Dirk

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Posted by carsanab on Friday, September 25, 2009 12:52 PM
Bob... I usually like to paint the canopy when a put down my base color....missed it this time....I use the frosted tape too....works the best you can easily see the frame to cut along and its thin enough not to get that raised edge...Ive used some masks for their ease but they alway start to pull up on me I dont know if its that they dont adhere well to the coat of future...most plane's canopies are not that bad..now I was very happy to use masks when I did my He-111 and 177 talk about masking!!!!

Dirk....Looks like Sandecker has kept you busy..havent seen you around for a bit....looks like your only answer is aftermarket....question.....you are decalling over the coat of future..normally thats not a big deal but could that be the problem??

Carlos

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, September 25, 2009 1:12 PM
Dirk-bummer about the decals.  If they had been 1/48th, I might have been able to help.  I've never built anything in 1/72nd, therefore, I have no leftover decals.

Bob

 

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