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FW-190 Reich Defender III 5/10-2/11

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  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by darson on Tuesday, June 8, 2010 11:51 PM

 

Hi Frank, I have been relieved of some of my work responsibilities (booted Cool) that have kept me on a tight leash with 60 hour plus weeks of late and would love to enter this GB if it’s still open and do some modelling again!!!!!

The kit I've got in my stash is the Eduiard Fw 190D-9 and I'll be doing these markings.

 

I know these are the same markings the Guy used (see page 25) but I really like the combo of RLM 81/82 with the wings 75/83 and some bare metal undersurfaces.  Like the Germans just painted with whatever they had and made do.  I'll look forward to posting some shots soon.

Cheers

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Posted by soulcrusher on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 1:07 AM

Hey Darren good to see you over buddy! I just finished one of these late war mix masters myself.  Bottom of page 30.  It was alot of airbrush work with all of the different colors and finishes. It is nice to see them in colors other than the standard 74/75/76 schemethat was so common.

I am trying to work my way over the BOB GB. I just have to finish my Seversky P-35 and then I'm free and able to start on an appropriate subject. I have about 5 to choses from and I can'y make up my mind. I'll see you over there soon!

Soulcrusher:drive:

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 6:27 AM

Darren, likewise I am happy to see you over here and am looking forward to seeing your build!!!!!! Eats

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 7:25 AM

Welcome Sign aboard Darren, glad to have you here my friend!

Frank 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 7:26 AM

Frank, PM inbound!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by darson on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 9:12 AM

Thanks for the welcome guys I'll try andget some progress pics up soon.

In the meantime I know you all posted old builds at the start of this thread but here is the last 190 I built for the Axis Aces GB.  It's not that shiney in real life, just under the lights.

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  • From: Bournemouth UK
Posted by Luftwoller on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 11:48 AM

Hi Darren, great news on the choice of build. I built the thing for exactly the same reason. Most colorfull LOL. Looking forward to seeing your work on the bird,

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by Julez72 on Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:50 AM

Hey Darren, 60hrs a week ehSadbugger that.....Good to see you here and i'm also looking forward to building with you again.....

Very nice 190 build buddy, she looks greatYes

 

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:22 AM

Julez72

Hey Darren, 60hrs a week ehSadbugger that.....Good to see you here and i'm also looking forward to building with you again.....

Very nice 190 build buddy, she looks greatYes

Ditto Looks great!!!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by darson on Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:24 AM

Thanks guys, the best part about the fact that I was working two full time jobs at the same time was the fact that I wasn't actually being paid 1 red cent more for it, just shows what an idiot I am Dunce.

Pulled out the190 and made a start tonight on the front office and engine, when I've got something worth looking at I'll post some pics

Cheers

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  • From: Wirral. UK
Posted by Spike190 on Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:21 PM

Soulcrusher you pulled off a beautiful job, very well done to you Sir Yes.

Very nice work so far Thunderbolt, the cockpit looks fantastic.

Clebode, your doing a great job, nice paint.

Steve thats the kit I'm gonna build when I manage to make it over here, great work so far, keep the good work up.

Nice looking progress Frank, your so damn neat n tidy...... Grrrr!!! Wink

Sorry if I've missed anyone, this GB moves at such a pace and now the World cup is gonna start I'm not sure how I'm going to cope LOL!

Keep up the great work everybody, it's a joy to look at.

Cheers....

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:00 PM

Thanks Spike. That was a whole lot of airbrushing to pull that one off.

 

SoulcrusherPirate

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Friday, June 11, 2010 8:29 PM

soulcrusher

Thanks Spike. That was a whole lot of airbrushing to pull that one off.

 

SoulcrusherPirate

Yeah but i bet it was funToast

 

 

 

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Posted by Clebode on Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:41 AM

Hi All,

I will be getting "stickers" on today as I Futured last night.  But first, I need some help.  Below is a photo showing both side of the the resin wheels from J. Rutman.  Is someone able to tell me which is the strut side?  I think it is the side with the  brake line loop but I have seen that side pointed to the centerline on some builds of the Rutman resin kit.  I know Coach Crusher, Guy, Darren or others who have built a lot of 190s will know.  Thanks in advance.  Geeked

 

Hugh

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  • From: Yokosuka, Japan
Posted by luftwaffle on Saturday, June 12, 2010 12:57 PM

Yup, the side with the brake line is on the inside.  Any reason you went with gray for the wheel hubs?  They were almost invariably painted black.

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Posted by Clebode on Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:57 PM

Thanks Lufwaffle aka Mike.  Photos of "Green 9" on display in the UK after the war seem to show the wheels a lighter color than the tires,  These are B/W shots so it is hard to tell for sure.  The tail wheel is clearly lighter, presumably RLM 02 so that's my reasoning.  Am I totally off base?

Hugh

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Posted by Clebode on Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:20 PM

Hi All,

My TA152H is almost done.  Not sure if I will be able to finish tonight.  If not I can't work on it unile next weekend.  I feel like I have just fought a twelve round prize fight.  The landing gear mount was a mother but it finally worked with a combination of Milliput and CA.  LOL  My bird has serious flaws but the left side looks okay from two feet.  I learned a lot during this build.  Here's where I am.

{IMG]http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af320/kmbode/DoR%20GB%20III/IMG_2528.jpg[/IMG] 

Hugh

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Posted by Clebode on Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:24 PM

Sorry, I messed up the photobucket transfer of the left side image.  Embarrassed  Retry

[IMG]http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af320/kmbode/DoR%20GB%20III/IMG_25

Hugh

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Posted by Clebode on Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:29 PM

Now I am Embarrassed Embarrassed.  I apologize profously.  Third time the charm?

Hugh

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Posted by luftwaffle on Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:00 PM

Clebode

Thanks Lufwaffle aka Mike.  Photos of "Green 9" on display in the UK after the war seem to show the wheels a lighter color than the tires,  These are B/W shots so it is hard to tell for sure.  The tail wheel is clearly lighter, presumably RLM 02 so that's my reasoning.  Am I totally off base?

First off, congrats on a great looking build so far, that's not a kit for uninitiated and you pulled off a winner.

Well, as far as RLM 02 on the wheel hubs, my personal guess is that if they appeared to be a light color in the photos then they were most likely natural metal.  RLM 02 was pretty much out of common use in 1945, Messerschmitt was painting the wheel wells of 109K's RLM 76 and the landing struts RLM 66 by then so logic would dictate that other manufacturers would be following suit.  Focke Wulf still appeared to be painting the landing struts of their planes RLM 02 even at this stage of the war but it doesn't appear much else was painted in this color, interior panels and components were being left in natural metal.

But it all boils down to a guess, one of the things that makes Luftwaffe planes so interesting!

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."   -Winston Churchill

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  • From: Yokosuka, Japan
Posted by luftwaffle on Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:09 PM

OK, the Emil I have in the works for the BoB GB is on hold for the moment so I had some time to dive into the Würger.  This will be Willi Maximowitz's Fw 190A-8 of 11./JG 3, Dreux, France, June 1944.  I'll using the 1/32 Hasegawa Fw 190A-8. 

Here's what I have so far, the cockpit is OOB with the exception of some Verlinden PE seat belts and a scratch built throttle lever:

The engine, didn't go overboard since most of this is obscured once everything is put together:

And I decided I'm going to give this one the rivet treatment (wish me luck), just one section of the wing done so far using Trumpeter's riveting tool:

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."   -Winston Churchill

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Posted by soulcrusher on Sunday, June 13, 2010 7:44 PM

Clebode you have done a fine job so far on a kit that is known to be a difficult build. Don't focus on the small things that did'nt go quite right. All of my builds have little things that did not turn out exactly how I wanted. Overall I think you have turned out a very fine build so far. I think I would have to agree that at this time all of the Fw 190 wheels were being painted in a semigloss black. If anything they might have skipped the paint all together and left them bare metal but I have never seen one modeled this way. If it was me I would paint them in black.

Mike nice job on the A-8. I learned a couple builds ago never to waste much time on detailing the radial engined 190's. The fan will always block 90% of everything once you install it. Same goes for teh Instument panel. It sits so deep under the coming that it is almost impossible to see much of it without sticking a light in there. The rudder pedals will also disappear once it is closed up. I try to focus my detail efforts on the very visible side panels and controls and the seat and belts. makes me start to think about the old Airfix 1/24 Fw 190 I have burried away in the basement.

Soulcrusher:wall:

 

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Posted by Clebode on Sunday, June 13, 2010 8:14 PM

Coach Crusher and Mike--You have convinced me.  The wheels will go semigloss black net weekend.  Thanks for all your advice and support.  I could not have gotten this bird finished in any acceptable shape withou it.  Thanks to Guy too for the very important spinner mask advice. 

I do have one more question,  Is anyone willing to share a technique for producing convincing engine exhaust staining?

I did get to work some more today and took some additional pictures using balanced lighting.  Here they are.

Hugh

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Posted by nomad68 on Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:16 PM

I have enjoyed watching everyones work so far. Some great work Yes Clebode she looks good nice job Big Smile If I can help you with exhaust stains I learned that the fuel quality in Germany at the wars end was not good and carbon deposits can be very heavy. I like to use a stiff brush and pastel chalk to make exhaust stains like the one below.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, June 14, 2010 4:40 AM

Great work everyone!!!!! Looking forward to seeing much more!!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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  • From: Yokosuka, Japan
Posted by luftwaffle on Monday, June 14, 2010 8:37 AM

Clebode

I do have one more question,  Is anyone willing to share a technique for producing convincing engine exhaust staining?

I use heavily thinned Burnt Umber, built up very slowly.  I work in acrylic so if it doesn't come out right I just wipe it off with Windex before it sets up and start over.

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."   -Winston Churchill

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Posted by Clebode on Monday, June 14, 2010 4:15 PM

Mike,

Is the burnt umber an acrylic or are the base paints acrylic?

Hugh

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Posted by luftwaffle on Monday, June 14, 2010 4:29 PM

Clebode

Mike,

Is the burnt umber an acrylic or are the base paints acrylic?

The base is acrylic, I use the Testor's MM Burnt Umber acrylic after I apply Future though, that way it's easy to remove if I'm not happy with what it looks like.

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."   -Winston Churchill

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Posted by sk3tch on Monday, June 14, 2010 8:54 PM

Lufttwaffle:  That cockpit dial painting it fantastic!

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, June 14, 2010 9:51 PM

Clebode- Looking good so far, but if I may mention- are the gear legs sticking awfully far in front of the wing LE?  Just curious from the photo.  Would it be impossible  to move them back a bit?

As for your question about exhaust stains, I usually mix some Tamiya flat black with dark brown, and thin it about 80% thinner to 20% paint.  At a pressure of about 10psi, I slowly build up the desired effect.  Here's how it turned out on my 1/48 ME-109G-6-

Hope that helps!

Frank 

 

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