The Official F-4 Phantom II Group Build 2011

Bockscar

 

eatthis:

 

got the stand made for the revell toom tonight and i hope to at least get the tamiya painted over the weekend

 

 

 

 

I hope your garage is heated or you have a better climate than me, mine is not as useful for building kits.

Hey, that's a great display stand eatthis, very dynamic photo, interesting roll and pitch adaptions....your original, or Popular Science?

iv got a little heater in there.

whats popular science a tv program?

the whole design just appeared in my head clear as anything at 1am 1 morning lol i put a build/design thread up here

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eatthis

got the stand made for the revell toom tonight and i hope to at least get the tamiya painted over the weekend

 

 

I hope your garage is heated or you have a better climate than me, mine is not as useful for building kits.

Hey, that's a great display stand eatthis, very dynamic photo, interesting roll and pitch adaptions....your original, or Popular Science?

eatthis

gloss coat on ready for decals when its dry it looks good shiny

 

Dude,

That's some quick buildin'! Took me a week to get around shooting one color.....

Glenn

gloss coat on ready for decals when its dry it looks good shiny

im stuck on the revell german f4f i want to do richtofen colour scheme but dont want to mix paint if i can help it. does anybody do the appropriate colours?

oddmanrush

Hey lots of good work going down...a lot of you guys are Phantom experts, while I have no knowledge of them what so ever except for what I saw on Great Planes on the Military Channel, so I'm ready to learn. I should be starting up soon as I am finishing up on another GB or two.

I don't know a whole lot either, but there are a great bunch of people in here that have been very helpful! I've learned a lot about the Rhino, where before I barely knew there were A, B, C, D, E, F, G's and even an N and S versions, and more! I have become a lot more Phacinated by them since joining this group! Also the 'net has helped a lot as well!

Lots of interesting stuff here at Boeing's (McDonnell-Douglas merger in 1997) site:

Phantom

Hey lots of good work going down...a lot of you guys are Phantom experts, while I have no knowledge of them what so ever except for what I saw on Great Planes on the Military Channel, so I'm ready to learn. I should be starting up soon as I am finishing up on another GB or two.

some painting done

Hey guys this is a real paradise for any Phantomaniac!!!!!I 've decided to build a 1/32 Rhino and specifically a late E variant.Because i really love this plane i want to make my first trully super detailed model.I believed that the Tamiya kit would be the one for my purpose but i can't find anywhere the cutting edge kit for the wing slats.I turned to Plan "B" and looked for revell F-4F but once again i can't find the cutting edge kit for the slotted stabilators.If anyone knows where i can find any of these kits please send a PM....

keep up the good work 

S'alright, Ken. Got it fixed and threw some tan on her today, after cleaning out the flower beds, mowing the yard, weedeating, and washing vehicles. Spring is here!

Glenn

Dominic, you are just too funny!!    I am still chuckling!  And thank you for the birthday wish.  I hope your stuff arrives soon, it seems like we are always waiting for something to arrive.     By the way, nice work on the radome, I can't wait to see some paint on that!

Jim, thank you for suggesting adding the brown.  I just got back from Hobby Lobby and saw your post.  I will try that next time.  I think I found the paint color that I was looking for at Hobby Lobby.  It is Model Master "Turn Signal Amber Metallic".  I think it will have the look of the indicator lights I am looking for.  I will post some pictures after I use it and see what everyone thinks.

Eatthis, nice job on the panel line highlight.  I bet it is going to look nice when you put the color coat on!

Glenn, that is a total bummer about your wing root coming apart.  That had to be a very disappointing moment to say the least.  I hope it doesn't take too much effort to fix it.

Ken

berny13

 

Bockscar:

 

 

 

 

Berny, the Revell radome looks very close to the photos of the F-4Fs I've pulled off of the net. To my untrained eye I cannot see the problem. But now I know it's there, I need to figure it out.

How would you describe the problem and is there a picture or link that can show me the difference? -much appreciated.

 

 

 

The Revell radome is too pointed and skinny.  The actual radome is fatter and comes to a point gradually.  Below is the Revell radome and the Tamiya radome to show the difference.  The Tamiya radome is how it should look. 

 

 

http://store.spruebrothers.com/132-ams-resin-corrected-nose-for-f-4e-phantom-ii-rev-kit-32034-p25446.aspx

Sprubrothers has a resin radome for the Revell 1/32 Phantom.  Kind of pricey but it may be the only way to go if someone wants to correct the problem without a lot of filling and sanding.

Berny thanks, you saved me a lot of extra effort, here's where the radome is now:

Starboard profile:

Port:

I was about to lengthen the radome about 5/32" and sharpen it to make it more pointy like the Revell example Berny provided!

Phew! That was close!

got the stand made for the revell toom tonight and i hope to at least get the tamiya painted over the weekend

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I had a busy week which included my birthday!

I am still working on my cockpit and want to paint some of the indicator lights which include a lot of yellow.  I wanted a dark gloss yellow and the closest I had on my shelf was FS13538 (Chrome Yellow).  I thought I could simply mix some black and that would do the trick.  Not so.  Apparently black is actually a very dark blue because when I mixed it with the yellow I got a dark green.  (I am working with Model Master enamel.)

I looked on the Testor's website and the Chrome Yellow is the darkest they have.  I started a search on this site and found what looks like on my computer monitor the color I am searching for FS13415: http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=13415  But I can't find anyone who sells this color.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Ken

Ken, thank goodness your birthday didn't get stuck in the mail! I'm still waiting for a bunch of stuff now, and it'll be my birthday by the time it arrives!

Happy Birthday Ken!

S O M M: I'm only taking a shot at that color, but what about adding a brown to that? Be careful though as some of the mixes I tried in the past came out looking a bit more red. What you say about the black is true. I tried making a tint one time for a canopy and it came out green.

E T: I don't intend to add the Immelman to the build here, so don't make that a Phactor in your choice of what to pick. Perhaps in 2012........?????

SOMM: I would give a try at the bunch of acrylic Yellows available at Michaels. If you don't have a Michaels around, give Walmart a shot.

Hi Everyone,

I had a busy week which included my birthday!

I am still working on my cockpit and want to paint some of the indicator lights which include a lot of yellow.  I wanted a dark gloss yellow and the closest I had on my shelf was FS13538 (Chrome Yellow).  I thought I could simply mix some black and that would do the trick.  Not so.  Apparently black is actually a very dark blue because when I mixed it with the yellow I got a dark green.  (I am working with Model Master enamel.)

I looked on the Testor's website and the Chrome Yellow is the darkest they have.  I started a search on this site and found what looks like on my computer monitor the color I am searching for FS13415: http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=13415  But I can't find anyone who sells this color.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Ken

Darn it jimbot, you've read my mind. Love that Immelman that about a week ago I placed it in my shopping cart at Scale Hobbyist. I have this one in my cart too, decisions, decisions...

El Taino

Another question, other than big aircraft limited to 1/72, I build mostly 1/48 and 1/32. I was wondering if you 1/72 builders can point me to a good OOB 1/72 Phantom so I can join the group again?

Looking forward to spicing up my sea of gray collection with a colorful anniversary or other colorful edition Phantom.

Have a nice productive weekend!

George

I may be biased, but my vote would be for a Hasegawa. A fair amount of detail with no serious fit issues that I have run across. Plus, Sprue Brothers had several listed on their "Super Specials" page. I have the "Immelmann Special" RF-4E in my stash now, which features and overall white scheme and very colorful decals. Maybe there might be something there that suits your Phantom Phancy. One drawback is the lack of weapons stores.

I have also heard that the Revell of Germany are decent, though I don't know personally.

Another question, other than big aircraft limited to 1/72, I build mostly 1/48 and 1/32. I was wondering if you 1/72 builders can point me to a good OOB 1/72 Phantom so I can join the group again?

Looking forward to spicing up my sea of gray collection with a colorful anniversary or other colorful edition Phantom.

Have a nice productive weekend!

George

eatthis

ready for paint

Hello eatthis, nice build so far. I'm curious, what color scheme are you going to paint your Phantom? I did check on the 1st page but couldn't see your name and Phantom theme.

Bockscar

 

Berny, the Revell radome looks very close to the photos of the F-4Fs I've pulled off of the net. To my untrained eye I cannot see the problem. But now I know it's there, I need to figure it out.

How would you describe the problem and is there a picture or link that can show me the difference? -much appreciated.

 

The Revell radome is too pointed and skinny.  The actual radome is fatter and comes to a point gradually.  Below is the Revell radome and the Tamiya radome to show the difference.  The Tamiya radome is how it should look. 

http://store.spruebrothers.com/132-ams-resin-corrected-nose-for-f-4e-phantom-ii-rev-kit-32034-p25446.aspx

Sprubrothers has a resin radome for the Revell 1/32 Phantom.  Kind of pricey but it may be the only way to go if someone wants to correct the problem without a lot of filling and sanding.

ready for paint

Oh, applesauce! Masking off the underside gray to start shooting the SEA scheme, when I notice that I've somehow popped the whole port side wing root.......

Glenn

berny13

 

Bockscar:

 

Berny:

I picked up a Revell 50th Anniversary F-4f and noticed that they have extra seats that aren't used.

They would dress up the cockpit  of my build, but I'm wondering if they are Navy issue, or what they are; i.e. I noticed the kit includes the pylons for both Navy and Airforce. It might not be too great to put the wrong seats in.

Thanks

 

 

You got me wondering so I pulled out my Revell F-4F and looked it over.  The original kit supplied seats were generic MB Mk-7 seats which were fair.  The extra tree with the other seats are much closer to the actual seats and are more detailed.  The only problem I see is on the extra seats, the main chute pack is a little too pointed at the top.  A little sanding on them and they will look better.  What I can't figure out is they improved on the seats but still did nothing about the radome.  You will have three options with it.  Go with the AM radome, do a lot of filling and sanding, or use it and hope no one will notice.

With all of the other errors with the kit it is a challange to build.

That's three generations of seats from Revell for the 1/32 F-4F. Thanks, I'll use the 2nd generation seats in my Early Revel build, they are still a huge improvement over the 1st gen tooling.

Berny, the Revell radome looks very close to the photos of the F-4Fs I've pulled off of the net. To my untrained eye I cannot see the problem. But now I know it's there, I need to figure it out.

How would you describe the problem and is there a picture or link that can show me the difference? -much appreciated.

Bockscar

Berny:

I picked up a Revell 50th Anniversary F-4f and noticed that they have extra seats that aren't used.

They would dress up the cockpit  of my build, but I'm wondering if they are Navy issue, or what they are; i.e. I noticed the kit includes the pylons for both Navy and Airforce. It might not be too great to put the wrong seats in.

Thanks

You got me wondering so I pulled out my Revell F-4F and looked it over.  The original kit supplied seats were generic MB Mk-7 seats which were fair.  The extra tree with the other seats are much closer to the actual seats and are more detailed.  The only problem I see is on the extra seats, the main chute pack is a little too pointed at the top.  A little sanding on them and they will look better.  What I can't figure out is they improved on the seats but still did nothing about the radome.  You will have three options with it.  Go with the AM radome, do a lot of filling and sanding, or use it and hope no one will notice.

With all of the other errors with the kit it is a challange to build.

Rag: Glad you're ok, hope things get better for Christchurch soon.

Glenn

Hi guys, Lots of great  work going on here. Unfortunately I've hit a bit of a brick wall.

My local model shop (Acorn Models) was destroyed in the recent Christchurch earthquake. I've heard everyone got out OK, but being situated at "ground Zero" my lines of supply have been disrupted.

(A minor inconvenience compared to the tragic circumstances many others are living through)

I,ve got a list on my wall of stuff that I was going to pick up on my next trip to the city and on the top of that list is flat white paint - I'm out.

Looking into a mail order supplier but no-one seems to be able  to post enamel paints.

Anyway, keep up the good work team.

berny13

 

oortiz10:

 

Hey everyone,

I have a question about the F-4C.  I'm building an early -C (circa 1966 w/ Navy style pylons) and am using one picture for reference (apparently only one photo exists).  Problem is, the pic doesn't show the wingtips.  I noticed that Hase's F-4 has what looks to me as formation lights molded onto the wingtips.  Here's a line drawing of an -EJ showing what's molded on the Hase's plastic:

 

Would early -Cs have this detail (formation light), or should I sand it off my build?

Thanks!

-O

 

 

You will have to sand them off.  The strip light mod wasn't started until around 1971/1972 time period.

Berny:

I picked up a Revell 50th Anniversary F-4f and noticed that they have extra seats that aren't used.

They would dress up the cockpit  of my build, but I'm wondering if they are Navy issue, or what they are; i.e. I noticed the kit includes the pylons for both Navy and Airforce. It might not be too great to put the wrong seats in.

Thanks

starting to look more like phantoms now