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ARMOR - Towed Gun Group Build (ends 7/1/04)

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 7:48 AM
Hi everyone!

First off, I vote for the Pak40. 88's get way too much publicity.

Secondly, I just wanted to share some pics and a description of my progress. I am building Alan's SiG 33 gun in 1/35. The kit has been a bit of a trial for me so far. I am used to building Tamiya kits, as when I was originally into scale modelling that was most commonly available. This kit, although it has nice detail in places, has needed a lot of cleanup and putty, sometimes even surgery to make parts fit, and very ambiguous instructions.

I tried to detail and improve many kit parts, with varying degrees of suceess. I am proud of what I did with the sighting device, for example, but there is some bits on the carriage that are now hard to see, and other parts that look different, rather than improved.

The barrel was flat and distorted so a new Jordi Rubio barrel was ordered. The barrel itself was exceptional, with built in rifling, but I must admit this is my first AM barrel! It also came with some bits and pieces (breech etc.). Some were nice, but some where inferior to the kits. Choosing to combine the parts, instead of substituting them, made still more filling and sanding issues, and was quite frustrating. I actually came pretty close to making a terminal mistake a couple of times.

I finished up construction more or less last night, then base coated it tonight, only to find more filling/sanding. Again I came close to really stuffing it up. I then had my first go at painting camoflauge freehand with an airbrush, (I am a bit of a novice with airbrushes). Needless to say, I learnt a lot from the experience!

So here is my progress for the last couple of days.




Next up is clear coating, decals and then weathering, but I may well leave it for a week or so. I overestimated my abilities for this one, so I might have to re-evaluate what my plans are.

All advice welcome, of course, but there will be better pics to critique later!

Cheers,

Matt
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:20 AM
OK, OK

88 - 2 / Pak 40 - 2

(but that's not counting my vote yet and what's mine?...you make a guess)

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:49 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Andytee

QUOTE: Originally posted by Dwight Ta-ala

Bagde? What badge? He-he-he.

So vote now...

88 or Pak 40

so far.. 88 - 2 votes / Pak 40 - 0


Nope, so far its 88 - 2 votes / Pak 40 - 1 vote Big Smile [:D]

WRONG!!!!!!!!

Its 88 - 2 votes / Pak 40 - 2 votes. Cool [8D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:29 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dwight Ta-ala

Bagde? What badge? He-he-he.

So vote now...

88 or Pak 40

so far.. 88 - 2 votes / Pak 40 - 0


Nope, so far its 88 - 2 votes / Pak 40 - 1 vote Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:33 PM
Bagde? What badge? He-he-he.

So vote now...

88 or Pak 40

so far.. 88 - 2 votes / Pak 40 - 0

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:54 PM
Andytee Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

Nice job on that pak, and great job with those original figures.

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Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:26 PM
Thanks claymore. I'll check out some Tamiya paints this weekend.

Tigerman, my vote for the badge would go to the 88 Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:59 AM
Looks great Andy. I also like the atmospheric setting.

Not a bad webpage jratz, looking forward to updates.

Zokissima: standard field grey would work.
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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:55 AM
Nice build Andy. I opted to get the Tamiya Pak 40, but my LHS was out of them. I was going to wait for AFV's, but it still hasn't come out and thought i would save $25. Needless to say, I'm late for the party. The deadline still gives me hope. What's the badge going tto look like? I voe for an 88 or Pak 40. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:05 AM
Great stuff Andy. Hehe, I like the top-down shot with the 'setting sun' in the back as well Smile [:)]

I finished all the subassemblies for the flak 43. I won't be painting anything yet, as I want to start on the demag as well tonight, hopefully. I'm still very confused over the whole paint issue, but I've decided I'll be using Model Master Panzer Gray to paint the vehicles, which still leaves me with one question...what do I use to paint the crew uniforms???
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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:24 AM
I am finally getting the chance to spend some time modelling. The last few weeks have been hectic and I have not had a chance to check in, but reading everyones accounts and seeing pictures has definately fired me up to start. I'm a little late getting going, but the kits I am using are not extremely difficult so I should be able to get them done in good order.

I still intend to build the British Universal Weapons Carrier towing a captured German AA gun. Hope to have some pictures soon.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:08 AM
Great Job Andy!

Matt
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 2:57 AM
Big Smile [:D]WWHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!Big Smile [:D]

I just finished my first placky kit in over twenty years! Start to finish in just over one week is definitely a personal best - I am notorious for half built projects stashed all around the house. The get-it-done incentive provided by these GB's is just what i need!

Anyways it's a Tamiya Pak 40 built OOB depicted in its classic firing pose with the OOB crew. Believe it or not, I was around when this kit was first released and I 've had the kit lying in a cupboard for a long long time waiting for the incentive to get it built. I always wanted to do one more-or-less like the original kit review pic I saw way back when and this GB gave me the push I needed Smile [:)]

See my version here: http://gn15.ozforces.com.au/military.htm

Gotta go - I've got a 250/10 sitting on the back burner for the small AFV GB......

Cheers, Andy!
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Posted by zokissima on Monday, April 12, 2004 1:08 PM
Allright, I started work for this GB. So far not much, but managed to about half-assemble the flak 43. Haven't touched the demag yet. It'll probably be a few days before I get around to that. The 43 is actually a very easy build, not much involved in it. The italeri kit is of fairly decent quality, and so far I haven't had any problems.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 12, 2004 9:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by clint

hey can i play too?im new to the forum so i dont know when the group build ends. i really want an AFV pak 41/43 or if time is an issue here ill go with the 3" conversion for the 57mm that is produced by warriors.


Sure, please do! The build ends July 1, so you've got lots of time. I'm trying to end by June 6, for the 60th anniversary of D-Day, but that's just me.

I'm building a big resin prime mover from Azimut, the Mack NO truck, and an 8" howitzer, the AFV Club kit of course, circa 1944, ETO. I started on the Mack, but then I realized how silly that was -- it's a serious project, and I don't always have time to build. So I've started the howitzer instead -- and so far so good. I have the entire barrel and breach portion of the gun built, and am starting on the cradle now. Not bad for one night's work -- I will try to have both the truck and the gun done by June 6, but if I have the gun ready by then and the truck done by July, I'll be fine with that.

In a perfect world I would build the truck first so as to know how to position the carriage for the gun, as the gun will be displayed towed. But this ain't no perfect world! Anyway, welcome to the build and have fun.
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Sunday, April 11, 2004 6:34 PM
Derek: Looks good so far.

Progress report:

I have already assembled the 88 including the bogeys and the figures. I have bought the base for the dio. Will apply the first coat of paint probably tonight.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 10, 2004 11:14 PM
hey can i play too?im new to the forum so i dont know when the group build ends. i really want an AFV pak 41/43 or if time is an issue here ill go with the 3" conversion for the 57mm that is produced by warriors.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 10, 2004 12:43 PM
Hehehe funny how you Aussies are looking forward to the cold and we in the States are done with the cold, you can have it, keep it, and just warm it up before you return it Black Eye [B)]

I will post pics soon, and link to a gallery of sorts when I have time. The ICM kits are so far so good, I REALLY like the detail on the horses and limber!!!


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 9, 2004 6:59 PM
Well, I got started by organizing myself. I do have a little glue spread, but not enough to show off.
I built a simple web page J.Ratz' Towed Gun Build to start showing pictures, it is still under construction & isn't very pretty.

The M59 is a good kit -- but I have a couple observations so far.
-- The metal barrel fits loosely in the plastic portions & needs a jig to ensure is straight.
-- There oughta be lands/grooves in the barrel (I haven't figured out how to fix this yet).
-- The breech block has all the threads but the breech part doesn't -- makes it hard to show breech open (haven't figured way around this yet either).

Anyway, this will be fun ....
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, April 8, 2004 8:18 PM
Derek, ambitious project you have, but i like it. Can't wait to see the end results. Looks good so far.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 8, 2004 6:02 PM
Im doing the ol tamiya pak 40 too. except my dio is americans capturing a pak 40 in firing position behind a wall and an s.s. soldier surrendering
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 8, 2004 4:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by claymore68

A couple shots of the PaK 40 for the GB,


Hey Derek, that looks cool!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 8, 2004 4:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by phroosh
Larry, I hope your wife is okay, and that your kids don't tear you into little pieces. Otherwise we might have to have a Larry Dunn group build!


It would only be an improvement!

I got my Azimut Mack prime mover started last night -- I took the cab out of the box, noticed it was cracked in several places, fixed the cracks, cut off the resin plugs, sanded it off, and called it a night.

Hopefully future building sessions will be more productive ....
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 8, 2004 4:44 PM
I am planning to show it being hooked to the tow vehicle. It will be located in it's firing position behind a wall, sandbags or bushes with a couple crewmen holding up the trail and the 251/1 backing up, rear doors open. Some spent rounds laying around and a few live ones on the halftrack floor, gear tossed in the back. I'm gonna have to modify some figs but I don't think that will be too hard with all the ones I have around.

Oops! There I go thinking again!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 8, 2004 10:56 AM
Derek,
Great job... I am building the ol' Tamiya gun as well.
What kind of a dio idea do you have brewing...?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 8, 2004 10:47 AM
A couple shots of the PaK 40 for the GB, needs weathering yet. The tow vehicle (251/1 Ausf. C) is underway. The Dio is planned out, just need a big enough base - about 12" x 15".


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Posted by zokissima on Thursday, April 8, 2004 7:53 AM
ddayomaha, those are some nice dio's.
Speaking of which, since I still didn't even think about starting to build (except the flak carriage) I'll at least start on the drafting and planning of the diorama. Since the demag and flak 43 aren't kits that are overwhelmingly large, I'll probably go with a 25cm X 25cm base. I know that the gun will be deployed just a little off-centre of the piece, and will be in a shallow trench. I got the inspiration from Call of Duty. If anyone's played, it's the mission that you have to blow up all the 88mm flak guns, except I won't be using an 88. First time attempting to model camouflage netting. I had some really great input on the dio group about that, so I have a few things I'll have to experiment with. Also after this GB is over, I'll FINALLY get around to taking pics of a few of my models to post up.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 8, 2004 12:21 AM
Well its almost paint time. Got the ford and 25pdr just about complete. Man Im spoiledwith these new taimya kits they got togther so nice unlike this 30 yearold beast. hard to believe Im a year older than the kit.
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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 10:58 PM
Here's hoping all goes well with the Mrs., Lary.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 10:03 PM
Hey petbat Tamiya's Krupp Protze is a great kit but isnt huge on detail I have pics of mine at: http://www.gateswasher.com/armor
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