ARMOR - Towed Gun Group Build (ends 7/1/04) - FineScale Modeler - Essential magazine for scale model builders, model kit reviews, how-to scale modeling, and scale modeling products

Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 11:39 AM

All right...straight'en up ya'll! Knock off the Grabarsen and nasty talk! Women on deck! Big Smile [:D]

Welcome to the forum and most importantly the Darkside... By all means join us... Your hubby has been talkin up your skills so lets see what you got... Big Smile [:D]

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 11:56 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by lizardqueen2

I have the British 25PDR. Field Gun & Quad Gun Tractor, and I would like to join
I haven't put anything together yet the only thing that I have done is primered it, just got it a couple of days ago.

Sounds like a fun pair to build up -- and an important weapon system too.

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tigerman

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From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Monday, February 9, 2004 1:24 PM

Sounds good Sheila, glad you gave up on the wingey thingies and returned to the Dark Side.

Eric

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 2:00 PM

Hi all!!!

I went to the LHSto pick up a British 25 pounder for my Tractor, but i i accidently bought a British6poundergun!!! DOH!!!! I'm going back tomorrow to buy the 25 pounder....

My question is how can i use the 6 pounder??/ I know absolutly nutting about this stuff, ... did the british tractor evertow the 6 pounder??? Can i tie it in with the tractor ond 25 pounder???

Thanks for the help!

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 2:51 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by littlemoe

My question is how can i use the 6 pounder??

You bet you can! It certianly was a towed gun.

QUOTE: I know absolutly nutting about this stuff, ... did the british tractor evertow the 6 pounder???

It didn't need a big tractor to tow it. Officially, the Bren Carrier towed the six-pounder, but jeeps very often were pressed into service, both in Europe and in the Pacific.

QUOTE: Can i tie it in with the tractor ond 25 pounder???

I'm not sure how. I think the Brits actually mounted some six-pounders on trucks in the Western Desert as gun trucks. They put light armour plate on the trucks. I'm not too up on this, but it would take a lot of research, and some modeling skill.

And it would no longer be a towed gun. Tongue [:P]

But if you want, you can use Tamiya's beautiful little Jeep kit to pull your six-pounder around.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 6:00 PM

OOO Kool!!! That gives me the excuse to buy another kit!!!!!

Now that little Jeep would need British markings right???

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lizardqing

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From: Dahlonega, Georgia

Posted by lizardqing on Monday, February 9, 2004 6:29 PM

Kennethc,
ya i think i do alot better work with the aror build than anything else.
glad to be back on the Dark Side for a change of things here. my hubby
got my colors today so now i can start painting and stuff i'll let ya'll know soon of how things are going . i do belive i will have loads of fun with my kit. Smile [:)]

Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 6:38 PM

this is my reply above i didn't realize that i was under my hubby's name so now you know talk to everyone soon, going to work on my towed gun truck see ya later .

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 8:37 PM

I know this peobably should be in the "testing" forum but how do you do that quote thing? Oh yeah sorry I haven't been on lately, computer problems

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 9:07 PM

dday

Just look at the top right corner of the passage for the post you want to quote. You should see a page icon and the word Quote after it. Just click on the word and you will be taken to a reply page and the quote will be there. If you only want to quote a certain sentence or part of the message just delete the extra stuff like you would any normal text program.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 7:55 AM

I got some good news today -- greatmodels.com was able to get an Azimut model for me for this build! It's the 1/35th scale Mack NO 7.5 ton prime mover, which I'm going to use to pull an 8" howitzer. I'm glad I'll be able to do this for the build -- I wanted to do something special because I got the ball rolling on this! Hopefully I will have it done by June to remember the 60th anniversary of D-Day in my own way.

As a secondary build, I'll probably wind up sticking the Flak 43 together too, if I build the big truck and gun in time, that is. I think I'll paint it as AAA for a volksgrenadier division in the Ardennes for the Bulge, dunkelgelb with whitewash. I haven't tried whitewash since I was a kid, so this might be a good opportunity to pay around with it.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 12:58 PM

I am changing my build to a Pak 40 and DMLs new 251 halftrack. It is in the mail to be here this week. I am really excited about that kit. I love the 250's so much this one has to be cool.

Still waiting ......

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wildwilliam

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From: West Grove, PA

Posted by wildwilliam on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 2:55 PM

Littlemoe,
'accidentally' bought the wrong gun ?
let me write that one down for future use !! Big Smile [:D]

not sure why i had to buy the Quad gun w/ the 25 pounder too.
we could abt have our own build!
i have the 88mm Flack 36/37 and a Russian SU-122 on the shelf.

i must always want what i don't have.

Welcome back Sheila!
the fork tailed devil did not suit you?

ed.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:32 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by petbat

dday

Just look at the top right corner of the passage for the post you want to quote. You should see a page icon and the word Quote after it. Just click on the word and you will be taken to a reply page and the quote will be there. If you only want to quote a certain sentence or part of the message just delete the extra stuff like you would any normal text program.

Oh should have looked there, I cant believe that it was so obvious Blush [:I]

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 8:36 PM

Wildwilliam,
Well at this time yes i am taking a break from it but one day i will finnish it though, but i am really excited about the group build, and most of all to build with my hubby (hehe)
Wink [;)]

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 1:17 AM

Welcome back Sheila.
Ahh Der gabelschwanz tuffel (SP?), nice for a wingy thingy but still not a tank!

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:31 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Kennethc

I am changing my build to a Pak 40 and DMLs new 251 halftrack. It is in the mail to be here this week. I am really excited about that kit. I love the 250's so much this one has to be cool.

Sounds like an interesting pairing, and certainly typical of late-war German expediency. Which PAK40 are you using?

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:00 AM

I am using the old Tamiya Pak 40. I found a website with some great close up shots So I figure I'll spend the bulk of my time on it and just build the DML 251 more or less OTB. I think it will be an interesting pair as well. Don't know if it is accuarate but I don't see why not. I just want to build that 251 soon.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:13 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Kennethc

I am using the old Tamiya Pak 40. I found a website with some great close up shots So I figure I'll spend the bulk of my time on it and just build the DML 251 more or less OTB. I think it will be an interesting pair as well. Don't know if it is accuarate but I don't see why not. I just want to build that 251 soon.

Definitely accurate. I've seen sketches a volksgrenadier made while he was in the Ardennes offensive, and his sketches show his AT company's Hanomags towing the PAK40's. There are actually a decent number of photos of Hanomag's towing PAK40's, if you're interested in how the Hanomag was kitted out when it towed AT guns.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:31 AM

QUOTE: There are actually a decent number of photos of Hanomag's towing PAK40's, if you're interested in how the Hanomag was kitted out when it towed AT

Do you have some Info???

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 11:37 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Kennethc

QUOTE: There are actually a decent number of photos of Hanomag's towing PAK40's, if you're interested in how the Hanomag was kitted out when it towed AT

Do you have some Info???

Not at hand, although some ot the sources I have at home might have something. (I'll take a look when I get home.) I think there are lots of photos of German AT guns pulled by Hanomags, though, and that should be a good indication of how they set them up and all. The charcoal sketches of that volksgrenadier were in Jim Arnold's book on the Battle of the Bulge, which he wrote for Osprey. I think he was VG anyway -- he might have been a panzergrenadier.

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tigerman

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 5:07 PM

If anyone sees AFV's new Pak 40, please let me know. I'm leaning to it right now.

Eric

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 6:40 PM

I'm still thinking.

I haven't made up my mind yet on what I want to build.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:06 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman

If anyone sees AFV's new Pak 40, please let me know. I'm leaning to it right now.

Tigerman, is it out yet?

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:35 PM

Anybody here built a 1/72nd scale PST kit? On a whim I bought a kit of this weird Russian half tracksky, a ZIS-42, and in the kit also comes a 152mm D-1 howitzer. Towed gun and transport! I may well just blitz through this thing to be done over the weekend, to get the build officially going, but I'm curious as to what I'm getting myself into!

I've generally heard good things about the PST braille scale kits.

BTW, I saw this -- a track AND gun -- for $9.95 and said, "what the heck, ten bucks ain't bad." (Or words to that effect. Evil [}:)]

) Turns out that I just looked up the kit on the net and it's really $19.95. Kit was mismarked. [:0]

Anyway, the ZIS-42 actually has individual link tracks! (Some anyway -- others are sold sections cast as one piece). I'm impressed.

Anyone have any feedback?

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tigerman

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, February 12, 2004 4:59 PM

Not that I'm aware of Larry. Jon said it was coming out, but didn't know the release. Hopefully it will come out in time or it's Plan B.

Eric

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:08 PM

Hey Ya'll I got my new DML 251 Hanomag in the mail today... Holy Crap what beaut!!! It comes with draped clothes, boots, a rifle squad a very nice driver a ton of personal gear AND it even has a halftrack included Big Smile [:D]

This thang will look sexy pulling a 75! Now I need to ref-up to see how it was in Larry_Dunn's words...Kitted Up? Hmmm.. I have a few places I can check.... If ya'll have any ideas or pictures.. let me know..Pleeezzz...

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:48 PM

Anyone heard about AFV Club's SdKfz 251Ausf C? It is supposed to be coming soon.......but how soon?

Should be interesting to see it, given AFV Club produce a wheel and track set as well as a set of indy links for the Tamiya version. Wonder if the Pak 40 will come with it as a box set -wishfull thinking I suppose.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 13, 2004 12:35 AM

Kenneth, I saw the box info on that new 251 and I will own/build it soon.... but my last group build was German so I'm going to watch you build the DML251 instead :)

OK I'm ready to show my cards......

I plan to position a plethora of russian AT gear defending the dneiper. Approve [^]

I have a pair of 45mm AT guns, a 76mm AT gun, some troops (one has a woman on the sprue), and some horses/limbers bringing in supplies. I need to locate some more troops though to complete my scene. After looking at a post about the DML russian tank riders I will get them and "make" them fit the scene. I would like to have the three AT guns in dugout emplacements along the Dneiper RIver. These fighters know they cannot allow the Germans to cross the river... let's see what happens..... Clown [:o)]