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Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:35 AM

I tried that Arctic camo job on one of the mini Flankers, but mine didn't turn out nearly as nice as Revenge's.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:52 AM

Anybody here try to match Flanker colours to Vallejo acrylics? Wondering what the odds are of getting something straight outta the bottle.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:57 AM

Vance, I haven't tried any of the Vallejo colors (aside from some Feldgrau..) so if you get any tips please post them!   I have a large box of MM enamels that I've collected for Flankers- everything ranging from their 3 Flanker-specific colors to others that are 'close' and none yet look right to me.  

The vivid blue for the Kazakh scheme is particularly elusive, so Revenge's arctic scheme is looking better and better to me.

These aircraft either seem to be factory-fresh or exposed to elements and nasty looking so it's hard to pick a direction and stick with it.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:13 AM

I'll probably have a chance to do a little Vallejo research this weekend. Need to place an order with my "local-ist" LHS shortly, including paint, so I'd like to do it in one shot.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:17 AM

Vance, I assume the Model Air line?  A quick glance at Vallejo's website indicates that they've got pretty much every popular subject broken down into sets except modern Russian aviation.  

It looks like you're going to spend some time either searching color charts for close matches, or use their paint equivalency chart if you already know the colors from another line of paints that you want.  Either way, it's going to take some time to find exactly what you need.  There's a number of other equivalency charts online, but I didn't see any Vallejo paints on the IPMS Stockholm chart.

Kaiyudsai used the AKAN acrylics on his- they're supposed to have exact matches but I haven't used them so I can't comment on them except they looked great on his model (which is fantastic).

Some online charts that I found...

http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/pdf_web/CC073_rev03.pdf

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/colorcharts_2.asp

http://www.paint4models.com/

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:30 PM

Thanks Dre - that'll save me some time. I've also been toying with the idea of trying out White Ensign Models' enamels... but I've already got 4 different brands in my stash, hate to add another one, especially an enamel at this point

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by TheWildChild on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:59 PM

i still like model master enamels and acrylics, regular Testors enamels too. i used to be a big fan of tamiya, but ever since their paints went away and came back, im starting to dislike them more and more. my grantfather usues Vallejo on his HO railroading cars and locomotives, he said its gret stuff to use with an airbrush, although he also says hand brushing it can be a little hit and miss at times. im thinking of giving them a whirl, as well as a brand (i think it the grand, gotta do some more looking into it) called 502 Abteuling(not sure on the spelling) but they specialize in armor colors from what i have read..... but, with some of the flanker paint schemes i have seen, some shades of grey and red-brown found on german armor could easily be incorporated into aircraft.... sorry for ranting, just a thought fellas:)

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

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"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

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Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:19 PM

yeah, I didn't want to branch out into more paint lines than I had to either- I had bought a bottle of Vallejo and Gunze Sangyo for a variety of tone in Feldgrau for an aborted diorama.  But I'm primarily a MM fan as my LHS has a great stock of them.   But.. for German Dunkelgelb, Tamiya still has the best paint.

MM has the best variety of greys that I've found- some of their USN colors can be substituted for other colors, especially for weathered effects and tones.   All of my Flanker paint box is MM enamels and most of them are from the USN section... Light Gull Grey is an excellent interior color for wheel wells and the like.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:57 PM

I've been at the whim of my LHS over the years.  When I first got back in after my first college go-round, the LHS had a great variety of Humbrol enamels. Then I moved away for college part2, the closest LHS carried ModelMaster enamels which I loved. Moved back home to find the LHS keeping Humbrol, but also adding Tamiya acrylics. Tried those for the easier/safer angles - love them for airbrushing, hate them for hand-brushing. Now that guy has closed up shop. Next nearest LHS is an hour's drive away but willing to ship, but.... they only carry Vallejo...

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:42 AM

They've got you over a barrel, or jar, of paint, n'est pas?  

If you haven't already done, do take a look at the various USN colors (both ship and aircraft) to see if there's something out there to suit your needs.  They're truly great cross-over colors.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:45 AM

This is another pic of Revenge_Artists Su-27K...  very nice but I think that there's a Naval Flag decal peeling off..   I do love the angle that he used to capture this model.

Revenge, your mini ought to be hitting the post office this weekend!

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Posted by TheWildChild on Thursday, August 16, 2012 2:10 PM

that angle really does capture the aggressive design of this family of birds.... alot meaner looking than any F-15 or F-16 IMHO.

its hard to notice the edges on the camo arent hard-edged until you look at it closely.

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

Whats next? Aircraft for Ground Attack Group Build

"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

"Ahh, my old enemy.......STAIRS"- Po, Kung Fu Panda

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:33 PM

Ive been on a bit of a hiatus due to work, family and getting ready for my senior year at UNL.

The painting's been completed for a while, but I just havent uploaded pix yet. But can tell you....the pant job is freakin' AWESOME!!! Im very pleased with how it turned out. Tease, I know, but after I get settled in at the dorms Ill have a bit of time to download some pix before the semester gets in full swing

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Dre
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Posted by Dre on Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:29 PM

Can't wait to see what you've done, Owl.

You need to be thinking about which miniFlanker you want sent your way- one of the original 5 (numbers 03, 04, and 05 left) in a standard Russian scheme, or one of the six in a custom, one-off scheme.

PM me your addy when your ready to claim your prize.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, August 17, 2012 7:39 AM

Owl!!!  I'd been wondering what you had been up to. Looking forward to the new photos.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by revenge_artist1988 on Friday, August 17, 2012 10:49 AM

Cheers dre and that decal was coming of not no more tho i win if you look at the bottom on the left you can see the reflection of my t-50

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, August 17, 2012 10:58 AM

You're right..  there is something else lurking back there- I never noticed, sorry.

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Posted by revenge_artist1988 on Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:58 PM

Im getting all excited im currently awaiting a 1/72 v22 osprey kit i cant wait

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, August 27, 2012 8:21 AM

Just putting the finishing touches on my Intruder this week, then back to the Flanker with a coat of primer. (Yes, apparently, I get distracted easily! Embarrassed)

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Monday, August 27, 2012 11:23 AM

You aren't the only one who gets distracted easily- I started this GB with good intentions, made some progress on my entry and then joined the Ground Attack GB with a Sukhoi Frogfoot and have made great progress there and now I've gone insane (again) and enlisted in Manny's Big F'ing GB with a MiG...  but the Frogfoot has to be finished by November 3, so that's where I'm concentrating my efforts for now.   Give it a look-see in that thread- you might be pleasantly surprised by what I' ve done to a resin cockpit.

Oh, then there is the 1/72 Airfix Bf-110C that I picked up to see what their red-box kits are like; they're pretty sweet.

Distractions are great!  Just received two more on Saturday...

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, August 27, 2012 12:24 PM

Sounds like you're a BIG SOVIET BLOC GROUPIE.... ;)

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Monday, August 27, 2012 2:27 PM

I was planning to upload these sooner, but as soon as I got to campus my computer went kaput! ITs all fixed now, but sheesh!!

as promised, painting pics!

but first, a pic of some of the PE included in the kit; the FOD screens

primer

mid-way through masking/painting

and voila!!

I just used some random MM acryl paints I had laying around and mixed/matched the colors.

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Dre
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Posted by Dre on Monday, August 27, 2012 4:52 PM

Owl, that is really, really cool!  I absolutely love it!   Well worth the wait to see this.  Are you going to carry the white onto the right tail antenna patch and onto the tippy-tops of both tails?   I can't wait to see this finished off with decals; it's a total head-turner.

Vance, this year has turned into "The Year of Soviet Aviation" for me (MiG-3, Yak-18, Su-25 and Su-27, MiG-21), which has been a great break from building WWII German stuff for the last several years.  Next year might be dedicated to US aviation...

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Monday, August 27, 2012 5:39 PM

Dre

Owl, that is really, really cool!  I absolutely love it!   Well worth the wait to see this.  Are you going to carry the white onto the right tail antenna patch and onto the tippy-tops of both tails?   I can't wait to see this finished off with decals; it's a total head-turner.

I decided against white points. I have a few planes that have splinter and points and I wanted something different this time. I cant wait to see it finished either. We'll see how classes go. Im taking a few more hours this semester than I have before so I can fit in my minor. That means lots and lots of reading and papers!!

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, August 27, 2012 7:31 PM

Wow, that scheme is good Owl.

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:08 AM

The tape the tape all that MASKING TAPE!!! Indifferent

Looks good Owl, amazing how the splinter camo looks so sharp on this machine.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:47 AM

How many meters of masking tape you used Owl Indifferent

Great camo YesYes

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:54 AM

bsyamato

How many meters of masking tape you used Owl Indifferent

Great camo YesYes

only one meter, im sure! Wink

Thanks guys. Ill try to get more work done on it soon. Pretty much all thats left is the fiddly bits and decals!

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Saturday, September 1, 2012 1:33 AM

Been away from the computer and home for a while, but have managed to get some more work done on both the SU-37 and 47.

This pic shows the kit provided landing gear parts, once again there is no detail.

and this is what I have done to get some more detail into the kit.  Sadly an old SU-34 kit donated a nose langing gear, but since the kit had been relegated to the shelf of doom ( missing a bunch of parts)

 

I will be finishing all the small bits and then get to weathering soon.  And then full blast on the SU-47!!

Here is a pic to show that I have actually started on the second one as well.

 

thanks for looking!!

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Saturday, September 1, 2012 1:20 PM

Nice work on the landing gear and camo, blkhwkmatt.  I assume that's an ordnance bay on the -47?

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