Sparrowhyperion

Hi guys.  I don't know if anyone has ever posted this link, but I just stumbled onto this website and it's a great resource.  It has camouflage and markings pallettes for almost any military aircraft you could imagine.

http://wp.scn.ru/en/markings

Check it out.

Fab link, an incredible research tool. I hadn't come across it,

many thanks!

Glad to be of help.  The amazing thing is that I wasn't even looking for a site like that.  I did a google image search for the Avro Vulcan, and it was one of the sites that the imaged I was looking at was from.  It looked interesting so I took a look around and badabing badaboom, resource site.  And the amazing thing is that it's a Russian Domain. lol..

Rich

Bockscar

Sparrowhyperion

Hi guys.  I don't know if anyone has ever posted this link, but I just stumbled onto this website and it's a great resource.  It has camouflage and markings pallettes for almost any military aircraft you could imagine.

http://wp.scn.ru/en/markings

Check it out.

Rich:

Fab link, an incredible research tool. I hadn't come across it,

many thanks!

oddly enough, thats how i came across the first time. Just random link clicked and the wealth of information.

Ok, dumb question time: I assume that this line down the middle of the A-7 canopy shouldn't be there and I have a bit of sanding and polishing to do?

That would be a negatory good buddy. Time to start polishing.

jimbot58

Ok, dumb question time: I assume that this line down the middle of the A-7 canopy shouldn't be there and I have a bit of sanding and polishing to do?

Keep us posted on the progression of grit you use, Please.

Dom

Another fine A-7 snap. Note the Sidewinder pylon. Great weathering.

Seems awful quiet around here lately. Where is everybody?

I haven't been able to get a lot done.  I slipped and fell down a few stairs.  I'm lucky to be alive with my Aneurysm, but I screwed my back up really good.  And when I find out which one of our idiotic cats yacked up on the stairway....  Chili Con Kitty...

Damn sparrow, find a padded room with a full time doctor, you're falling apart mate.

Did chilli con kitty become Chilli con vaguely unrecognisable meat?

As for why its so quiet were all doing what were meant to be doing. Modelling lol. Except me, i had Dawn of war 2 collectors pack arrive last night. So ive got 2 new campaigns to work through before i can contemplate building anything.

Oh and the missus stood on one of the engine nacelles of the apache after knocking it off my work bench. The paint had barely dried.

Sparrowhyperion

I haven't been able to get a lot done.  I slipped and fell down a few stairs.  I'm lucky to be alive with my Aneurysm, but I screwed my back up really good.  And when I find out which one of our idiotic cats yacked up on the stairway....  Chili Con Kitty...

Aw man! Sorry to hear that, Sparrow. Hope you recover real soon.

Russ

Scorpiomikey

Oh and the missus stood on one of the engine nacelles of the apache after knocking it off my work bench. The paint had barely dried.

I got called back to work for the last 4 days so I haven't gotten a lot done either. I'm trying to upgrade those pitiful gear doors that came with the B52D so they at least look reasonably like the real ones.

I'm using that task as an excuse to avoid what I really should be doing - putting in the window glass and finishing the interior so I can button up the fuselage

Maybe this weekend I'll get up the courage...

Button up is always the hardest. Theres always that thought in the back of your head "did i forget something?"

Rich: OUCH! Not much you can get done with your back messed up, best wishes here for a swift recovery!

Jim: My two cents would be to grab one of the sanding sticks made for canopies, I know Squadron makes one with three ultra fine grits and sand the ridge off. Then you can dip it in Future to clear up any tiny scratches that might be left. A piece of brown paper bag balled up can serve as ultra fine sandpaper too.

Been working on my P-40 for that GB and a 1/35th Tamiya Jeep here.

Gamera

Rich: OUCH! Not much you can get done with your back messed up, best wishes here for a swift recovery!

Jim: My two cents would be to grab one of the sanding sticks made for canopies, I know Squadron makes one with three ultra fine grits and sand the ridge off. Then you can dip it in Future to clear up any tiny scratches that might be left. A piece of brown paper bag balled up can serve as ultra fine sandpaper too.

Been working on my P-40 for that GB and a 1/35th Tamiya Jeep here.

any 'tips' for dealing with the inside ridge, I use a pencil with a rounded eraser to mount the sandpaper

but they built the pyramids while i was doing that.

-Dom

lol....

Whoops! Sorry I was thinking it was Jim with the canopy, musta looked at one of his quotes of you. 

The inside ridges are a pain, not sure what else to tell you. I can't think of anything other than the eraser or maybe a small piece of balsa wood since it's soft. 

And toothpaste can be used as a mild abrasive / sandpaper replacement too. 

Sometimes I find that if you use a brand new X-Acto blade, you can back scrape very carefully with almost no downward pressure, and slowly remove ridges like that.  just make sure to hold the blade so it only comes into contact with the ridge, and not the plastic around it. For inside, you can use a curved blade.  Just a suggestion.  Afterwards, a coat of future will hide the scrape line.

I did manage to get a little done on that Revell 1/32 Corsair.  The hinges haven't snapped yet, so I'm crossing my fingers.

Gamera

Whoops! Sorry I was thinking it was Jim with the canopy, musta looked at one of his quotes of you. 

The inside ridges are a pain, not sure what else to tell you. I can't think of anything other than the eraser or maybe a small piece of balsa wood since it's soft. 

And toothpaste can be used as a mild abrasive / sandpaper replacement too. 

Striker8241

Well, there might be another possibility. There are polishing pastes and powders you mix with water that are used for grinding and polishing lenses for amature telescopes. They usually start with grits around #220 and go as high as #440 or more. Not sure if these are the same pastes used by jewelers, but if you can get hold of some, it might be useful to try them on the canopy.

 

Russ

I had to take down a ripple on the inside of a small canopy for a Revell F-100, weird scale, near 1/72, may closer to 1/96.

I used the pencil eraser because it seemed close to the Inside diameter of the canopy. Took forever, but King Tut was impressed.

Cutting your own dowel is probably a great idea for larger scales. This is challenging work, and, thank gosh for Future!

Also, I had bought these little sanding sheets, about 2" square, made of heavy mylar, I think they went from 1200 to 4000 grit. I rolled them into tubes and put some tape around them to hold them. Then I used the ends to sand.

Hey Guys,

Anybody know how the lower engine cover on the B-52 engine was supported? It almost looks like the back end had to be hung on the engine itself (see below), unless there was some kind of frame routed under or over the engine.

Thanks for any help,

Russ

Most engines have fixing points on them.

Just went to the end of the drive to watch New Zealands first implosion.

Striker8241

Hey Guys,

Anybody know how the lower engine cover on the B-52 engine was supported? It almost looks like the back end had to be hung on the engine itself (see below), unless there was some kind of frame routed under or over the engine.

Thanks for any help,

Russ

Visible are the snap releases at the bottom edge, they would snap up to lock and pull down to release, that's what it looks like from here, also, the outer edge of the top section seems to have small flanges or hooking type brackets. my guess is the mechanics would undo the snaps, open the bottom away from the engine up to about 90 degrees or more, then pull the nacelle forward or back an inch or so to release a number of hooks from those brackets you see. The snaps seem to line up with the brackets on the upper edge. Just a guess.

Gosh Mikey, you really have to be more careful driving!

Bockscar

Striker8241

Hey Guys,

Anybody know how the lower engine cover on the B-52 engine was supported? It almost looks like the back end had to be hung on the engine itself (see below), unless there was some kind of frame routed under or over the engine.

Thanks for any help,

Russ

 

Russ:

Visible are the snap releases at the bottom edge, they would snap up to lock and pull down to release, that's what it looks like from here, also, the outer edge of the top section seems to have small flanges or hooking type brackets. my guess is the mechanics would undo the snaps, open the bottom away from the engine up to about 90 degrees or more, then pull the nacelle forward or back an inch or so to release a number of hooks from those brackets you see. The snaps seem to line up with the brackets on the upper edge. Just a guess.

 

Hi Everyone,

Sorry for my extended leave of absence.  Life has taken over and kept me away.  Russ, I am sending you a picture I found in the "B-52 Stratofortress in Action" that shows at least one of the lower covers still attached to the engine while it is suspended on a crane.  It does not have a clear shot of how it is attached, but it is proof that the cover does attach directly to the engine.

Ken

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Sorry for my extended leave of absence.  Life has taken over and kept me away.  Russ, I am sending you a picture I found in the "B-52 Stratofortress in Action" that shows at least one of the lower covers still attached to the engine while it is suspended on a crane.  It does not have a clear shot of how it is attached, but it is proof that the cover does attach directly to the engine.

Ken

Got it, Ken and I sent you a reply. I figured the front end would attach to the nacel but it doesn't and your picture proves it. I also found the image below and if you zoom in on the cover, you can see where it attaches to the engine, not the nacel. 

Many thanks, Ken and Dom;  clears up that mystery!

Russ

Striker8241

Bockscar

Striker8241

Hey Guys,

Anybody know how the lower engine cover on the B-52 engine was supported? It almost looks like the back end had to be hung on the engine itself (see below), unless there was some kind of frame routed under or over the engine.

Thanks for any help,

Russ

Russ:

Visible are the snap releases at the bottom edge, they would snap up to lock and pull down to release, that's what it looks like from here, also, the outer edge of the top section seems to have small flanges or hooking type brackets. my guess is the mechanics would undo the snaps, open the bottom away from the engine up to about 90 degrees or more, then pull the nacelle forward or back an inch or so to release a number of hooks from those brackets you see. The snaps seem to line up with the brackets on the upper edge. Just a guess.

 

I don't know, Dom. I'm mystified. Here is a shot of the engines from the rear. I can see where the cover would be hinged to the intake nacel as you pointed out but there isn't anything in the back to hinge it to. From the curve of the cover near the exhaust port, it would have to be hinged further forward, like about a 3rd of the way from the exhaust. If you still have the parts for the display engine, you can see what i mean.

 

Russ

 

 

See those two rusty ring flanges a few inches apart, just ahead of the rusty stainless in front of the black exhaust nozzle?

I'm guessing they are slotted in a semi-circular arc about 90 degrees or so, from about 1 O'clock to about 4 O'clock. the back of the nacelle has t pins that rack in those slots.

That's probably why the nacelle hangs the way it does in your other shot:

The mechanics are standing on the edge of the nacelle. The intake nacelle would have a track on the inside as well, you can see a black slot cut on the inside of the ring flange right behind the intake, it looks like there is also a small truck assembly that rode inside the track.

Almost ready to start putting together wager money...lol

Dom

Bockscar

Striker8241

Bockscar

Striker8241

Hey Guys,

Anybody know how the lower engine cover on the B-52 engine was supported? It almost looks like the back end had to be hung on the engine itself (see below), unless there was some kind of frame routed under or over the engine.

Thanks for any help,

Russ

Russ:

Visible are the snap releases at the bottom edge, they would snap up to lock and pull down to release, that's what it looks like from here, also, the outer edge of the top section seems to have small flanges or hooking type brackets. my guess is the mechanics would undo the snaps, open the bottom away from the engine up to about 90 degrees or more, then pull the nacelle forward or back an inch or so to release a number of hooks from those brackets you see. The snaps seem to line up with the brackets on the upper edge. Just a guess.

 

I don't know, Dom. I'm mystified. Here is a shot of the engines from the rear. I can see where the cover would be hinged to the intake nacel as you pointed out but there isn't anything in the back to hinge it to. From the curve of the cover near the exhaust port, it would have to be hinged further forward, like about a 3rd of the way from the exhaust. If you still have the parts for the display engine, you can see what i mean.

 

Russ

 

 

Russ:

See those two rusty ring flanges a few inches apart, just ahead of the rusty stainless in front of the black exhaust nozzle?

I'm guessing they are slotted in a semi-circular arc about 90 degrees or so, from about 1 O'clock to about 4 O'clock. the back of the nacelle has t pins that rack in those slots.

That's probably why the nacelle hangs the way it does in your other shot:

The mechanics are standing on the edge of the nacelle. The intake nacelle would have a track on the inside as well, you can see a black slot cut on the inside of the ring flange right behind the intake, it looks like there is also a small truck assembly that rode inside the track.

Almost ready to start putting together wager money...lol

Dom

No need to, bud. I think you nailed it