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First Annual Berny Memorial Group Build

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  • From: Toledo Area OH
Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:19 AM

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

jimbot58

Then I masked and painted the inside frames of the windscreen:

Note that I have yet to install the instrument panel, or the cowling.

Nice work Jim!!  Yes  Yes  How much time did it take you to do that?  And I still can't believe you are working that magic on 1/72 scale.  Amazing!

Ken

Yeah Ken;

It's a surprise Jim didn't paint the individual screw eyes around the wind screen....

has anyone here polished a canopy with a Dremel and a polishing bit?

Dom

Shhhh...  Don't give him ideas...  He's going to go blind doing stuff that small.. lol  Hell, on 1/72, I can barely see the rivets. lol

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by kaiyudsai on Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:27 AM

Hey forum.... Im Marc from Lafayette LA.... this will be my second group build here..I'll be  building a 1/32 Mig-21 MF  Trumpeter kit, with Resin Tub and PE from Eduard.  Most Probably a Late model MF in Slovakian, Polish, Or Romanian Lavery   Cheers....  

On the Bench : Ukrainian Flanker, Ju-87B Luftawaffe, Mi-24 (Trumpy scale)                                                                                   

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:30 AM

At least I now know I am not the only one to use the scrape and polish method.  Remember, as soon as you get it polished, get some Future on it to keep it nice and shiny.  I usually used a bit of cloth attached to the end of a cotton swab to do the toothpaste polishing because my fingers are too fat and spastic now.

I know what you mean about Mom's and guilt.  My Mom spent most of her latter years in various mental health facilities.  But she still made me feel guilty on a regular basis.  Even when she gave me a bag of garbage for X-mas when I was 14..  I felt sorry for her...

Rich

jimbot58

Well, I appreciate all the comments, but there really is no special skills or magic involved here. To eliminate the ridge down the center of the canopy, I first used a round hobby blade to carefully scrape away the raised material. Using the round blade minimized the contact between the two and left a smaller area to repair. I then used a Flex-i-file triple grit polisher/finisher:

 I have one I split in half to give me a polisher about a half inch wide, and with some water for lube and using the two finer grits (the black is a bit too aggressive for this) I polished away, changing directions and patterns (back-forth, circular, etc.) several times. When I got to to the point where there was mostly a fine haze still left, I then went to work with the toothpaste (Colgate cavity protection-no gels, whiteners, etc. just plain ol' white minty tasting toothpaste. Usually buried on the bottom shelf below all the fancy crud) A piece cut from an old cotton t-shirt for a cloth and adding a dab of the paste to the cloth wrapped around my fingertip, I went to work. Here again, I changed directions and patterns often. I dabbed on more paste as needed and it really didn't take long.

As to the wind screen, keep in mind you are only seeing the black as it shows through from the underside. The outer surface is still unpainted. I swear by the use of Parafilm "M" available from Micromark. Read how to use it here:

Parafilm

The secret is to use a new, never been used #11 blade to trim around the edges after it has been applied.

On slight advantage I have is actually a disadvantage: I am very nearsighted, and when I remove my glasses, I can hold the piece very close and see every detail in perfect focus. This allows me to trim the masking very so exact.

As to Mom, I'm more than a little embarrassed and ashamed to admit how much that, with my being in my mid '50s, just how much this domineering woman had control of my life. But blood being what it is and my being a "good son" and all, I could not walk away, as much as I wanted to.  I know it made me a laughing stock to my co-workers and friends. The guilt is a powerful weapon, one she used without mercy!

Jim

P.S. A side note here is that I also polish areas that are to receive decals to eliminate any possible silvering. You have to be careful though. I cracked one of the wings of my Phantom when i applied too much pressure.

J

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, August 9, 2012 5:45 PM

kaiyudsai

Hey forum.... Im Marc from Lafayette LA.... this will be my second group build here..I'll be  building a 1/32 Mig-21 MF  Trumpeter kit, with Resin Tub and PE from Eduard.  Most Probably a Late model MF in Slovakian, Polish, Or Romanian Lavery   Cheers....  

Hi Marc,

Welcome aboard!  There is always room for one more.

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, August 9, 2012 8:08 PM

Hello Marc,

great to have you on board!Welcome Sign

Your Trumpy 1/32 MIG 21, it has a die cast intake, or is it plastic, or both?

Please post pics of your WIP if you can, we would love to see your progress.

Dominic

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, August 9, 2012 8:14 PM

Rich:

That story about your mom, it made me cringe.

That is as bad as it gets. I wish I could forget that ever happened for you!

Guys, I just came up with a way to re-scribe my F-4P wings, but I want to see

if I still have enough goodwill with FSM to submit the idea. I think if they publish your idea

they give you one of every new Revell kit for life for free.....lol

Dom

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Thursday, August 9, 2012 8:36 PM

I eventually got used to stuff like that happening so it doesn't bother me anymore.  Some good news though.  My Sister in Law is currently having her Baby.  Deb is up at the Hospital with her.  I'm going to be an uncle again.

I was all set to do my MIG 21 kit, but then I noticed a couple of important parts were not in the supposedly complete kits I got last year.  The cockpit tub and the control stick are Awol, so I decided totry and resurrect the Academy F86 that got messed up with putty.  I spent most of today sanding off almost all of the putty.  It looks like crap right now, so I'll send up some images when I get some primer on it at least.

When I finish that... Well, that Canberra is calling to me from my mini stash...  I'm going to let Marissa do the small one and I will do the large one at the same time.  Should be fun.

I have GOT to somehow get a larger work area.  The current area is enough for small kits, but for my larger ones, I need a full size work bench.  I may ask my Mother In Low if I can move the operation into the main basement which is large.  Then all I need to do is try and find the stuff to build a full size bench.

I can hardly wait to get our own place.  I have my kit cave all planned out.  It will be a tribute to the 1970s.  Complete with color organ, 70s stereo, blacklights and posters.  Especially the famous Farrah Poster and the Cheryl Ladd one with her in that yellow thing.  Then some beaded curtains and all I have to do then is stick on some Steely Dan and model til the cows come home...  Oops, almost forgot.  There HAVE to be Lava Lamps...  Lots of Lava Lamps...

If anyone has any 1970s stuff they are gonna throw out, let me know lol.

Rich

Bockscar

Rich:

That story about your mom, it made me cringe.

That is as bad as it gets. I wish I could forget that ever happened for you!

Guys, I just came up with a way to re-scribe my F-4P wings, but I want to see

if I still have enough goodwill with FSM to submit the idea. I think if they publish your idea

they give you one of every new Revell kit for life for free.....lol

Dom

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, August 9, 2012 8:44 PM

Rich:

I have that Pioneer 767, still works, fully analog, transistors, 35 watts, still enough to make a man go deaf in a basement.....

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Thursday, August 9, 2012 8:53 PM

Yup.  Some things should never be digital, music is one of them.. lol

Bockscar

Rich:

I have that Pioneer 767, still works, fully analog, transistors, 35 watts, still enough to make a man go deaf in a basement.....

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:02 PM

Theres nothing wrong with a bit of digitization in music. I like the occasional bit of electronica music. However i will admit the best amps in the world still use vacuum tubes.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:19 PM

Hi, All,

Here's my display engine so far (sorry for the crapy picture). It's going to be the left inboard engine on the model.

I ran into a slight problem with the HO flatbed trailer for the bomb truck - sadly, it's too small for 1/72 scale. However, I'm modifying it to make the bed larger and I'll change the bogies to those from a 1/72 21/2 ton Army tractor

Cheers,

Russ.

Tags: B52D , engine , nacelle

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, August 9, 2012 10:32 PM

Striker8241

Hi, All,

Here's my display engine so far (sorry for the crapy picture). It's going to be the left inboard engine on the model.

I ran into a slight problem with the HO flatbed trailer for the bomb truck - sadly, it's too small for 1/72 scale. However, I'm modifying it to make the bed larger and I'll change the bogies to those from a 1/72 21/2 ton Army tractor

Cheers,

Russ.

Nice work again there Russ!  Yes  Yes  Another fine piece of work!!

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 10, 2012 8:18 AM

Thanks, Ken!

It's been a series of oops and blunders, but thanks to the tips and tricks I'm learning from you guys, I can at least correct em Smile.

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 10, 2012 8:26 AM

Sparrowhyperion

Parafilm

The secret is to use a new, never been used #11 blade to trim around the edges after it has been applied.

 
Jim, I just received a roll of the Parafilm. I followed the directions but it's not working for me. It says to slowly stretch it to 4-5 times it's length, but it starts tearing before it's even 2-3 times its length. And it never gets tacky enough to stick to a plastic surface really well.
 
What am I doing wrong?
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 10, 2012 8:39 AM

Russ: Really nice work there!

Been years since I used Parafilm but it should stretch. And what I used would stick to itself but really wasn't that sticky on anything else, which I guess was the point since it was used to seal glassware.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 10, 2012 8:45 AM

Gamera

Russ: Really nice work there!

Been years since I used Parafilm but it should stretch. And what I used would stick to itself but really wasn't that sticky on anything else, which I guess was the point since it was used to seal glassware.

Thanks, Gam! As for the Parafilm, I'll keep working with it. Either I'm doing something wrong or maybe this roll is too old. More likely, it's me (too old and doing something wrong lol).

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 10, 2012 2:10 PM

Here's a picture of an actual B52D tail gunner's compartment (courtesy of G. Holmes) and my model with a few details added - my details are only suggestive, not accurate.

 

 

 

I've had to work in this compartment a few times. It's very narrow and confined, with cables, hoses and cords hanging down that make it even more crowded. The seat folds down so you can get in and out. There's a hatch that opens to the outside at the right rear of the compartment and another hatch just past that one that opens inside into the 47-section where we had our jamming transmitters and chaff dispensers.

Cheers,

Russ

Tags: B52D , gunner , tail , turret

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, August 10, 2012 6:18 PM

Very nice detailing work there Russ!  It is great having you on this build.  I am gaining so much insight of the workings of the B-52 that I would not have had other wise.  Thank you so much for sharing it with us!

Ken

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Friday, August 10, 2012 6:46 PM

Nice work. I had no idea what the tail spot was like in that aircraft. Looking good.

On to my project. Slowly getting there.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 10, 2012 7:37 PM

Thanks for the good words, Ken, and you're certainly welcome for the information. I'm kinda biased toward this bird so if I go on about it too much (anybody) feel free to slap me upside the head (virtually of course Big Smile).

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 10, 2012 7:50 PM

Scorpiomikey

Nice work. I had no idea what the tail spot was like in that aircraft. Looking good.

On to my project. Slowly getting there.

Hey, that's looking really nice!

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, August 10, 2012 8:58 PM

Russ:

Great looking work, just checked, those ribs were molded into the nacelle, Russ, had me fooled there for a bit....lol....but the engine looks good, are you planning on any 1/72 crew to be working on it.

(I hear Ken can make 1/72 spanners and the like....lol)

Mikey:

Also looking great, hey how did you fix the engine cowling your beloved crunched? The Apache actually looks kinda' cool all green like that, like some kind of robo-chopper....

Hey Mikey, is that new volcano anywhere near you?

-Dom

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Friday, August 10, 2012 9:18 PM

It didnt do much damage to start with, i heard the crunch when she stepped on it and thankfully all the had broken was the front face popped off. Bit of glue to get it back on and were away and laughing.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, August 10, 2012 9:21 PM

Dang Mikey you are lucky,

if it had been Rich, half the bird would have been crunched.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Friday, August 10, 2012 10:45 PM

Ha yeah, she woulda tripped and fallen on the work desk itself.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

My signature

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:56 AM

Took the masking off the canopy tonight. And realised id forgotten to put the wiring loom in the back seat DO'H.

And this is the repaired nacelle. I havent touched the paint up yet. 

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

My signature

Check out my blog here.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, August 11, 2012 2:18 AM

Bockscar

Russ:

Great looking work, just checked, those ribs were molded into the nacelle, Russ, had me fooled there for a bit....lol....but the engine looks good, are you planning on any 1/72 crew to be working on it.

(I hear Ken can make 1/72 spanners and the like....lol)

-Dom

 
Lol! Darn it! I was going to take credit for them! Thanks, Dom. Actually, I do plan to have some troops working on it. I'll need to build a B1 stand for them to stand on first -  like in the picture below - unless somebody makes these in 1/72 scale...
 
 

 
 
Hey Ken, I could use a few speed handles like the one the guy up on the wing is holding Big Smile - and maybe a tool box or two Wink.
 
Russ
Tags: B52D , b1 , engine , stand

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:04 AM

Striker8241

Bockscar

Russ:

Great looking work, just checked, those ribs were molded into the nacelle, Russ, had me fooled there for a bit....lol....but the engine looks good, are you planning on any 1/72 crew to be working on it.

(I hear Ken can make 1/72 spanners and the like....lol)

-Dom

 
Lol! Darn it! I was going to take credit for them! Thanks, Dom. Actually, I do plan to have some troops working on it. I'll need to build a B1 stand for them to stand on first -  like in the picture below - unless somebody makes these in 1/72 scale...
 
 
  
Hey Ken, I could use a few speed handles like the one the guy up on the wing is holding Big Smile - and maybe a tool box or two Wink.
 
Russ

Big Smile  You guys crack me up!  Looking at this picture reminds me of working on my Mustang with the 351 Cleveland crammed into the engine compartment.  Bent over and trying to get my fingers inbetween the wall of the compartment and the engine to get to some things was a pain!  For these guys, dropping a wrench would be a real pain in the butt!

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:43 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

For these guys, dropping a wrench would be a real pain in the butt!

Ken

 
All too true, my friend! The dropping of even a small screw into an engine or anywhere in the aircraft could red "X" the plane until the offending object was found. Nothing like working on a system through an open panel for hours in the cold and be close to finishing only to drop a screw or small tool. You had to call the crew chief or FMS and have them come out and search for the part. It could take hours! You learned to be very careful.
 
BTW, it was pretty much standard procedure for pilots taking up a plane for the first time after some maintenance action to roll it over shortly after takeoff (not B52s as far as I know) to collect whatever had been dropped in the cockpit . Everything from coins to tools would fall into the canopy. One pilot even found a girlie magazine, but I heard he kept it - as evidence Big Smile If he heard the sound of a pin ball machine back in the back, he RTBd right away.
 
Always wanted a Mustang but never could afford one. One of the few sports cars that just looks like it wants to go!
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:48 AM

Hi Everyone,

I found an old aerial photograph of Okinawa that the 15th Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron that my Dad was in had produced.  It was in pretty bad shape so I took it to a local photo shop that had a roller scanner that was capable of scanning it in and did some touch up on it.  I did some more touch up on it when I got it from them.  This is I am guessing around 1964 or earlier:

Ken 

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