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First Annual Berny Memorial Group Build

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 12, 2012 7:37 PM

Scorpiomikey

.....i want to swear in appreciation for your work area. Thats incredible. I love it. I understand now why it took so long to clean it.

Thanks MIke!  I am going to try my best not to let it get into a mess again, at least not for a while!  Big Smile

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, October 12, 2012 7:59 PM

Gee Ken, I thought you said you had a work bench. That looks more like a factory... Surprise

Nice cleaning job, though Smile

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 12, 2012 8:11 PM

Hi Everyone,

Well here it is!  The kit that I am going to put that cockpit into!

I am using this kit because the F-4EJ is a "hard wing", meaning it does not have slats.  The F-4E used in Vietnam did not have slats except for a very few at the very end of the war.  They were added later after the war.  The F-4E that I am building did not have them at the time period that I am representing. 

Here is a shot of the instruction booklet:

 Here are the sprue shots:

 

 

 Here is a shot of the wings.  Another nice thing about this kit is the fact that the landing gear bulges that Hasegawa put into the molds for the Navy and Marines versions of their kits are not on this one, so no sanding and grinding!

 

I will be ready to start on this hopefully tomorrow.

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 12, 2012 8:12 PM

Striker8241

Gee Ken, I thought you said you had a work bench. That looks more like a factory... Surprise

Nice cleaning job, though Smile

Russ

Thank you Russ!  I appreciate the compliment!

Ken

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, October 12, 2012 8:22 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Well here it is!  The kit that I am going to put that cockpit into!

 
Looks nice, Ken! What scale is that?
 
Russ

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 12, 2012 8:41 PM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Well here it is!  The kit that I am going to put that cockpit into!

 
Looks nice, Ken! What scale is that?
 
Russ

Hi Russ,

It is 1/48 scale.  Hasegawa is considered by most to be the best kit in 1/48 scale of the F-4 Phantom II.

Ken

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  • From: Toledo Area OH
Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Friday, October 12, 2012 8:56 PM

Nice bird Ken!  I think the Hasegawas are the best F4s out there.  I just inventoried my half done FGR.2 which I am going to finish after I finish the Hornet for the ANZAC build.  A couple of suggestions.  You might want to go with some AM seats.  Legend makes the best I have tried for the Hasegawa kits.  Nice detail and sharp lines unlike some of the Verlindens which look like they were made with wax molds.  And adding some AM intakes is a breeze. (pardon the bad joke).  Eduard also makes a real nice PE kit for the cockpits.

Love the workshop!  Mine will never look like that.  Too much stuff in way too small a space.  I like your compressor and air line setup.  A lot better than dragging the compressor all over the workshop.

I'm dying to see how the F4 comes out, so keep us posted.

Rich

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Well here it is!  The kit that I am going to put that cockpit into!

I am using this kit because the F-4EJ is a "hard wing", meaning it does not have slats.  The F-4E used in Vietnam did not have slats except for a very few at the very end of the war.  They were added later after the war.  The F-4E that I am building did not have them at the time period that I am representing. 

Here is a shot of the instruction booklet:

 Here are the sprue shots:

 

 

 Here is a shot of the wings.  Another nice thing about this kit is the fact that the landing gear bulges that Hasegawa put into the molds for the Navy and Marines versions of their kits are not on this one, so no sanding and grinding!

 

I will be ready to start on this hopefully tomorrow.

Ken

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, October 12, 2012 9:35 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Well here it is!  The kit that I am going to put that cockpit into!

 
Looks nice, Ken! What scale is that?
 
Russ

Hi Russ,

It is 1/48 scale.  Hasegawa is considered by most to be the best kit in 1/48 scale of the F-4 Phantom II.

Ken

 
Cool! I have the 1/72 Hasegawa F-4E kiit. I'll be watching your build with interest.
 
Russ

 

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:43 AM

Guys extremely limited access

great posts, wish i could say more

but the clock runs out fast on

this rebuild C-rap...lol...

more Sunday guys!

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:44 PM

Good news everyone!  Jim just wrote me and he is okay.  He said he has been busy with extra hours at work and he took a trip across state (Colorado) to see a friend a few weekends ago.  He said he appreciates everyone's concern.

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:24 PM

Hi Everyone,

I washed all of the plastic in the kit today with a vinegar and water solution to make sure to get rid of any residual mold release agents.  I also gathered all of my aftermarket parts for this kit which took a little bit of time to find.  Tomorrow I plan on starting on the seamless intakes.

Ken

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, October 14, 2012 4:04 AM

Cool, Ken! Looking forward to seeing your progress. And thanks for the tip - I didn't know about pre-washing the parts to remove mold agents. BTW - what ratio vinegar to water?

Thanks,

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:36 AM

Striker8241

Cool, Ken! Looking forward to seeing your progress. And thanks for the tip - I didn't know about pre-washing the parts to remove mold agents. BTW - what ratio vinegar to water?

Thanks,

Russ

Hi Russ,

Not everyone agrees that it is a necessary step to prewash the parts.  But I know from my own experience from working in a factory where plastic molded parts were made that we did use a release agent on the molds.  Now we did have a process where they were supposed to be "washed", but I know that sometimes "things" happens.  Also, it only takes just one missed spot to ruin a paint job!  So I like to play it safe.

As far as the ratio, I never bothered with measuring.  I use a good strong solution, so say about 1/3 vinegar to 2/3 water.  I also use a soft bristle brush (a cheap long bristle paint brush or even a soft toothbrush will work).  Then rinse thoroughly with cool water and dry it with a paper towel to avoid any water spots.  Of course be really careful not to snag the small pieces with the paper towel or you may break them off.

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:19 AM

Thanks, Ken. Good info! Big Smile

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:04 PM

Striker8241

Thanks, Ken. Good info! Big Smile

You will never guess who gave me that tip!  Berny!  He used it for cleaning resin parts but I found it works just as good on plastic.

Ken

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  • From: New Zealand
Posted by Scorpiomikey on Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:32 PM

Dad always told me to prewash the trees. but since i usually end up working on a kit after dinner it doesnt really matter, i always end up with greasy fingerprints on it. I just give it a wipe down before paint and were away and laughing.

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:35 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Good news everyone!  Jim just wrote me and he is okay.  He said he has been busy with extra hours at work and he took a trip across state (Colorado) to see a friend a few weekends ago.  He said he appreciates everyone's concern.

Ken

Yeah,

Jim said something a while back about his trip,

and I said I would be 'rare' last week....Jim needed some

reflection time for sure.

Rich was thinking that mean't dinner for Grizzlies....lol

Sad I missed such a great week of posts.....

I liked Rich's idea of building from a massively cluttered work bench.

i talked to the Smithsonian, they actually have fossilized sections

of work bench Rich had years ago....Big Smile

I haven't quite got Rich's talent, but I am working on it.

As for Ken: He is putting all of us on......

He opened his own LHS.....lolYes

You Know Cliff, the EPA is thinking of banning styrene

hobby kits because of their petroleum content and carbon

footprint. Am I joking?, yeah, are they?.....probably thinking about it for sure.

Ken How's your mom?

Dom

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  • From: Toledo Area OH
Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:17 PM

Glad to see ya back Dom...  I hope the delay getting back on was "Bear"able.... 

I can see it now.  Government bans polystyrene, and there is a 10 million man march of worldwide IPMS members marching on D.C.  lol.  I'd just about pay money to see that... almost anyways.

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:17 PM

Hi Dom,

Glad to have you back friend.  I will some photos to post in a while of what I got done today.

Ken

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:49 PM

Dom: Good to see you back friend, and yeah the EPA has rules about every other friggin' thing.  As a lab guy you would not believe the crazy rules and regulations they come up with. Frankly the worst thing I've come to believe for the environment is environmentalists - it's gotten to I swear we can't do out jobs for their meddling.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by kbuzz01 on Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:45 PM

Hi guys.  I'm still around once in awhile, but haven't been very active on the bench (or the forum).  My bench is also totally cleaned off, Ken, and I'm taking some time off after the TF-102.  ( In looking at the pics of your bench, I think you need more paint!!)  Indifferent  I see that there is a new 1/48 F-94 coming out, and that's one from my early military experience that I haven't built so that might be next.

Ken - looking forward to seeing your Phantom.

Russ - Great looking work on the BUFF.  Skillful effort on that wrinkled skin.

Greetings and good luck to all,

Kbuzz (one of the other Kens?)

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:49 PM

Hi Everyone,

Not a whole lot done at the workbench but did get some research done with Russ today.  I don't know how many of you know but I have been putting together a list of all the aircraft the USAF used during the Vietnam War beginning at November 1, 1955 through April 30, 1975.  I have been working on this list for a couple of years now.  If anyone would like a copy, send me a PM with your email address and what format you would like (Microsoft Excel 2010, 2003, etc.).

I did get some work done today at the bench.  I started with the seamless intakes made by DMold:

I prewashed these with the same vinegar and water solution as the kit plastic.  Here is a shot of the instructions (very lacking):

Here is a shot of the seamless intakes out of the package:

 

Per the instructions, I needed to "remove casting fence" that you can see in this next photo:

 Here is a shot with the casting fences removed from both intakes:

Next I removed both fuselages from their sprues and sanded smooth the places where the runners were attached:

 

And that was my day!

Ken

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  • From: Toledo Area OH
Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:02 PM

Nice set Ken.  I never saw that set before.  I wish I had known about it when I was building Berny's "Two-Sick-Oh" bird.   The ones I used weren't nearly as nice.

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

  • Member since
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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:04 PM

kbuzz01

Hi guys.  I'm still around once in awhile, but haven't been very active on the bench (or the forum).  My bench is also totally cleaned off, Ken, and I'm taking some time off after the TF-102.  ( In looking at the pics of your bench, I think you need more paint!!)  Indifferent  I see that there is a new 1/48 F-94 coming out, and that's one from my early military experience that I haven't built so that might be next.

Ken - looking forward to seeing your Phantom.

Russ - Great looking work on the BUFF.  Skillful effort on that wrinkled skin.

Greetings and good luck to all,

Kbuzz (one of the other Kens?)

Hi Ken,

Glad to hear from you again!

I am assuming you are speaking of the 1/48 Kitty Hawk F-94C?  I have read some great reviews on the kit.  I know I would like to see you build that after seeing what you did with that TF-102!

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:07 PM

Sparrowhyperion

Nice set Ken.  I never saw that set before.  I wish I had known about it when I was building Berny's "Two-Sick-Oh" bird.   The ones I used weren't nearly as nice.

Thanks Rich.  The guy that makes them puts them out in limited quatities and they sell out fast.  They are always on back order and a little more expensive than the Rhino set.  I read a review somewhere that compared the two and the reviewer said the DMold set fit a lot better than the Rhino set.

Ken

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:18 PM

kbuzz01

Hi guys.  I'm still around once in awhile, but haven't been very active on the bench (or the forum).  My bench is also totally cleaned off, Ken, and I'm taking some time off after the TF-102.  ( In looking at the pics of your bench, I think you need more paint!!)  Indifferent  I see that there is a new 1/48 F-94 coming out, and that's one from my early military experience that I haven't built so that might be next.

Ken - looking forward to seeing your Phantom.

Russ - Great looking work on the BUFF.  Skillful effort on that wrinkled skin.

Greetings and good luck to all,

Kbuzz (one of the other Kens?)

Hey Buzz, thanks and good to hear from you again!

Russ

 

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:36 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Not a whole lot done at the workbench but did get some research done with Russ today.  I don't know how many of you know but I have been putting together a list of all the aircraft the USAF used during the Vietnam War beginning at November 1, 1955 through April 30, 1975.  I have been working on this list for a couple of years now.  If anyone would like a copy, send me a PM with your email address and what format you would like (Microsoft Excel 2010, 2003, etc.).

I did get some work done today at the bench.  I started with the seamless intakes made by DMold:

~

And that was my day!

Ken

 
Good start, Ken! Big Smile

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 15, 2012 9:42 PM

Hi Everyone,

Here is tonight's work, slow but steady.  The instructions are not very clear on where to cut so I am cutting on the lean side which is going to take longer.  First I drilled holes to use to help guide my micro saw:

 

Next I started sawing.  This is all the farther I got.  After I get this side done and know how much and where to cut, the other side will be quicker:

 

Ken

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  • From: New Zealand
Posted by Scorpiomikey on Monday, October 15, 2012 10:43 PM

Looks like fun ken. When i get my bench back up and running (god knows when that will be) ill have to try some seamless intakes on something. I wanna try an F-105.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

My signature

Check out my blog here.

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    April 2012
  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:01 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Here is tonight's work, slow but steady.  The instructions are not very clear on where to cut so I am cutting on the lean side which is going to take longer.  First I drilled holes to use to help guide my micro saw:

Next I started sawing.  This is all the farther I got.  After I get this side done and know how much and where to cut, the other side will be quicker:

 Ken

 
Wow, Ken, I can see where you would be hesitant to do this much cutting! Good luck!
 
Russ 

 

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