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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:04 PM

Greg: Wait a sec. Do you speak German? Because that was perfect. Perfect spelling, correct grammar (and I know how hard German grammar must be if you are no native speaker) and you even got all the capital letters right! Oh, and the commas are all in the right place as well! Big Smile Surprise

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:25 PM

Thanks again for all the positive comments. It's very nice to hear talented fellow modelers approve of one's work.

Greg

You are too kind and I'm very glad that you enjoyed my posts.  Danke mein Freund.

RRider

The 190 is shaping up very nicely and great tip on fading the decals. Great looking 109E!

Gary

Great to hear from you brother. Hope you are doing great!

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:10 AM

Clemens (and PJ), I truly wish I did speak German because it would be a practical language to know, but I do not.

I know a few words, but not nearly enough to make sentences. I cheated a little to tease you. :)

Very rusty French and my Chinese is coming right along (albeit quite slowly), though.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:14 AM

Greg

No worries, I only speak fluent Spanish and English. Just a few words here and there in Deutsche. Geeked

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:34 AM

PJ, I'm jealous! I am fluent in no second language and would really like to be. Spanish would be excellent as there are a lot of Spanish-speaking folks here in the US. I know how to say 'Hola', and 'loco', that's about it. :)

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:21 PM

I'm only fluent in German (native speaker, woohoo) and in English...

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, November 17, 2013 1:52 PM

Trying to learn Tagalog...

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:32 PM

hey guys I know we off a different topic now. I just came across the sun bleached 109  i thought was interesting and talented. when I got back into modling about 3 yrs ago it was more about building my stash. becouse the models had become much more advanced so I tryd a few easy ones that I remembered is was  the revel 1/48  109g-6 and this is it. next I will try your  application next rigidrider. its much more convincing.

PJ....great job on the yellow 10.

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:35 PM

well I have a chance to be on the bench this morning. im working on my first set of brake lines. im going to try to post more than 1 pick at a time if I cant plz hang in there with me....lol

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:41 PM

 I had to drill out the lightning holes free hand on the h/b kit there I no reference

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:46 PM

 I drilled a hole for the line then super glue with setting  agent

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:51 PM

 I don't have lead foil but I saved some foil from a scasarole

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:56 PM

Looking good, Blackdog!

I got a some bench time this weekend and I'm almost done with all the cockpits. I just have to add all the tiny PE handles and switches to the profipack 'pits. That's a task for tomorrow (or Tuesday if I get no bench time) howevew, because I simply can't work with small bits when I'm tired...

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:57 PM

 ok that's it I had more but this is just inconvenient to load the pics this way.

thank you all that gave me advice and pics on how to do it. theres a few booboos but for my first im happy.

thanks guys.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:57 PM

Black Dog, I'm honored that you would try my method, It can be a lot of work but the effort is well worth the end results. How did you do your "G"? looks like a water wash maybe?

Thanks

Doug

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, November 17, 2013 3:08 PM

Eric, Tagalog? Wow, I had to look that one up!

Ok, back on subject, sorry about the unintentional hijack.....

BDog, looking good! I like those custom made brake line standoffs, and thank for the idea to tape over my alligator clips. Why didn't I think of that? I've done it with tweezers and needle noses and forceps and everything else???? D'oh! Guess I'll be shamed into trying brake lines on the next one. :)

That kit you found and posted the pic of looks good!

Clemens, as I've mentioned before, I'd never know that English was your second language if I didn't already know.

.....ok, guess I'll head down to the bench and see what I can manage to break next...... (broke two pieces off my first resin seat within 5 minutes of removing it from the bag the other day) Big Smile Whistling

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, November 17, 2013 3:14 PM

Little more progress today,,, starting to apply the colors... starting with the "blue Green" RLM84 or 99 which ever chart your using.

Greg... when I start the top coats after pre shading, I crank the pressure up to about 25-30 psi, draw the AB back to about 4 to 6 inches and lightly hit the desired area until it looks even, dont cover to rapidly or heavily or you will defeat the look your wanting to achieve. Dont forget , there is a lot more to do from this point, and every coat lightens the pre shading just a bit every pass.

Put some Grau Violet ovet the engine cover and gun bay...

Starting to apply the break up camo and green mottle, the pre shade is starting to soften alot...

Well this is all for now, Let this dry well and continue on more this week!

Take care all!

Doug

PS... Greg, I wasnt trying to single you out but you had mentioned an interest in trying to pre shade your upcoming build. Hope this helps you, and Im sure there are other methods, this one just works for me! 

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 3:19 PM

ss are you the modler I seen way back in the post that's doing like a 1/2 dozen 190s at the same time ?

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, November 17, 2013 3:31 PM

Hey Doug, First, I want to thank you very much for further demonstrating your weathering technique. My intent is to attempt to sort of blend or soften my overall camo pattern. Sort of like you would do on an armor model. Your paint job is looking great. I too appreciate the play by play. 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, November 17, 2013 3:40 PM

She's looking fan-frickin-tastic, Doug!

Greg: My writing skills in English are ok-ish, but You don't want to hear me talk. I have a horrible Austrian accent... Wink

Blackdog: Yes, I am that guy, but it's actually a full dozend of 190s (well, actually 10 and a big Zoukei-Mura Ta 152 as well as another 1/48 Eduard kit in my stash)... Embarrassed

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 3:40 PM

greg and ss... thank you for the kind words

all of you that posted ahead of me have given me the ambition. to step up my skills.

rigidrider.... I was buying all armor kits when I first got back into modling. so the weathering on the 109 was done like what I was reading in the self help books wich was dry brushing with lightened shades of the diferent camo in layers that was used on the plane. modeling is a hile new world now. what a great time to be a modeler. the after market and amounts of the kits is amazing.

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:14 PM

doug..... thanks for the the paint how to. I have never pre shaded before I just mite do it now. I was thinking of a clean looking a/c and just using  pencil and some light washing. getting ready to prime so im getting close.

greg....after looking at your last build im sure that you will not have any problem doing your brake lines on the next 1. your radio wire was spot on. making it look like its under  tension is harder then it looks.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:43 PM

Bdog

Great job on the brake lines and the lightening holes. That adds a ton of detail to the gears.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:28 PM

No problem Joe... On the camo pattern you chose, thats going to be a job, Your just going to have to take alot of time and excersize a great deal of patience going over each color and pattern one by one. What I would do is use an average (to me 20-25 psi) pressure, thin the paint with a hot(fast dry) thinner, get up close and personal (appx 1/4 in) and start tracing each one a section at a time. Dont worry too much about a little overspray, thats what gives that soft blend of colors.Keep in mind thou, that too much will make the pattern look "muddy" and blured. I rarely ever use any sort of mask for camo unless its an early pattern like a splinter, but thats just me.

O O Greg, Tagalog... Asawa ko sa na  Pilipina... I need to know what shes spouting when shes mad at me! (LOL)

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Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:29 PM

Nice detail on the gear bdog. Nice paint job on "Rosemarie" too!

 

 

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:57 PM

 AND I GET TAKEN OUT BY PUPPIE FLACK. !!!!!!!

looks like scratch building time

Nathan thank you.  the brake lines  took some time mostly fiddling with straps. and the 109 gave me a chance to try a few new things before taking a more detailed model. I had fun with it.

trying to work my up to the nicer ones in my stash

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:35 PM

 but on the bright side my windscreen came clean of thei  but  future floor wax.

I scrolled back   but I couldn't find who told me to clean it with windex. so thank you anyways it worked just fine little more clean up to go. then try again..

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:42 PM

Doug, thanks for continuing your blow by blow (sort of literally in this case!). And you single me out any old time, my friend. You mentioned your pressures and distance and noted the importance of going light and slow. This is my #1 problem with my airbrush. I know not to rush it but once I get started can't seem to control myself. Hopefully with more practice and experience I'll stop that!

It is continuing to fascinate me that watching this stuff be done (y'all make it look so easy) and actually trying them are two different things. First one must know what one is trying to accomplish, and that can be hard at the beginning.

BTW, I had to laugh when you mentioned your reason for learning Tagalog. I had actually wondered and turns out my guess was pretty much right. My reason is the almost the same. :) I haven't gotten scolded in Chinese yet, but time will tell. :) 

Clemens, Austrian accents are cool! Way better than my boring midwest accent!

Blackdog, thanks for your vote of confidence in me for when I take on the brake lines! If I end up anywhere near your first attempt, I'll be a happy camper.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, November 18, 2013 4:43 AM

LOL... Yeah I hear ya Greg, Problem is I am starting to understand quite a bit, even though its hard to put sentences together and be able to speak properly, I can generally understand what is being said. Well she now realizes that, and being she is also able to speak Japanese, she will suddenly switch to Japanese to throw me off! LOL...

All in jest, she is really a wonderful lady and I consider myself very lucky to have such a companion in my life.

Yeah the models are like that for me too, I get to a point and its like a race horse, I see the finish line and begin to pore it on! We just have to be patient. and I find myself constantly in my head telling myself, take your time, let it dry, walk away for a bit... ha...

Take care...

Doug

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Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, November 18, 2013 5:52 AM

Doug:Man , your paint work is right on. I still use masks to achieve my camo patterns but hope to get to the point that you are at now with your border work on the demarcation lines. Pre-shading is on my list of tricks for this D-9 build that I'm going to start tackling again in Jan.

Blackdog:First off, that landing gear detail is da bomb! Good attention to detail. Secondly I hear you on the doggy woes. Mine don't chew on anything anymore but are up there in age and I have to keep my eye on 'em all the time. My female dachshund is 15 and is a full time job! I'll probably post a pic of good ol scooter and sweet pea pretty soon just to give you guys a visual on the dynamic duo.

                   

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