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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, May 12, 2013 8:17 PM

Nice looking cuts Bill!

Eric

 

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Posted by FlyItLikeYouStoleIt on Monday, May 13, 2013 12:05 AM

Oh I understand about the cotton, Doug. I'll be diggin for some to keep in the arsenal. But man, you might have created a monster. Watch, I'll be cutting parts off just cuz I can.

Bill.

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In queue:  Tamiya 1/35 Quad Tractor or a scratch build project.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, May 13, 2013 4:47 AM

ROTFLMAO,! Glad to have been able to pass on some helpful info!

Take care...

Doug (RR)

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, May 13, 2013 11:12 AM

Ok guys. It's been a hectic week with being gone the first three days of this week to Dallas for more training, my sons birthday party on Saturday and my son's birthday/ mothers day on Sunday. Now I'm here playing catch up.

 For starters:

 Reasoned: That build turned out fantastic! You shouldn't cut yourself short on your abilities. It was great having you in this build and am looking forward to participating in more with you. Thank you for being a part of this one. I have posted a pic of your completed build in the intro post.

 Rigidrider: Man I can't tell you how glad I am to see you still building 190's here in this build. You are contributing alot to this build. I have you down for that Monogram 190 that you are going to build in the intro post. I am really looking forward to seeing you "hack" this one up and make an open cowlings build!

taxtp: I have changed your entry from the original entry to the updated Hasegawa build as requested. Looking forward to having you in here. The French build should be interesting.

flyitlikeyoustoleit: Hate to hear youre having fit issues with your Hasegawa build. Knowing what that is ALL about I can really understand. As for the research , for me half of the fun of building a kit is learning not only about the aircraft but also about the units and men in which the machines belonged to. Really good stuff Bill.

Clemens:You are da man for participating in 3 group builds and managing 1 as well. I wished I had it in me. Your input is awesome as well.

 

                   

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, May 13, 2013 12:06 PM

It's actually 4 GBs and the one I host LOL!

I didn't write about my entry in the Ground Attack GB...

Another Thunderbolt!!!

It'llneed untill the end of the month to arrive here though...

It's in 1/32nd scale with lots of AM goodies (Big Ed set, seatbelts, wheels, gear bays, engine, gun barrels and AM decals)

Clemens

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Posted by Bish on Monday, May 13, 2013 12:29 PM

Nice to see the cotton tip in action. Thanks Bill.

Clemens, looks like your off to a good start on the GB front. But don't blame me when you start pulling your hair out.Wink

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, May 13, 2013 1:14 PM

I WILL blame ya for sure!!!

Just kiding... Most of the models I'll build are from tamiya or Dragon and I never had really bad fitting issiues with those companies' kits. So it shouldn't get that bad...

Clemens

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, May 13, 2013 6:37 PM

Now thats a nice camo scheme! Cant wait to see this one Doug!

                   

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:10 PM

I started on the two Butcher Birds today....

I got all the sub-assemblies for the cockpits together and I'll give them a coat of color tomorrow.

Hopefully I can post some pics then.

Clemens

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Posted by Reasoned on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:07 PM

Thanks for the kind words Joe and this has been a real joy of a GB.  I'll throw this out to the expert builders checking in (maybe it's been answered already).  I'm looking at adding a 1/48 "Dora" to the stash, what should it be?

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Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:19 PM

Well, Eduard hands down for detail and accuracy, Tamiya fits a little better, but is less detailed and less accurate- Most of these issues include too short landing gear and small wheels, which takes away from the notable 190 gear stance. But also wrong prop and gun cowl. Depends if these issues bother you. I will say, the Eduard hands down is the best bang for the buck, especially the Profipack with pe and masks. Heck it goes for 25-30 bucks, whereas the Tamiya can be much more. One thing for sure, Tamiya kit needs aftermarket decals because they are completely wrong and inaccurate schemes, and the decals don't behave well.

 

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 11:39 AM

I agree with Nathan for sure on the landing gear and wheels.  As for the gun cowl and prop I'm going to replace those with an Eduard prop and the gun cowl will be displayed open. The gear I'm going to attempt to rob from the Eduard stash and make it work. I will say that Eduard has it going on with detail and accuracy but are a real "treat" to build. But..............the results are worth it if you can get through the build ok. Decals on the Tamiya kit are bad as I hear but LOOK like crap when looking at them. Going AM for sure with those. I bought my Tamiya D-9 for 30 bucks so thats right in line with the Eduard stuff. I'm actually looking forward to a semi easy build as the Eduard kit has really kicked my tail so far.

                   

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Posted by Reasoned on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 12:32 PM

Great, thanks guys the Eduard D-9 Profi is on the way!

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Posted by Nathan T on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:57 PM

Ohhhh, Doras galoras!

 

 

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Posted by Jester75 on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:18 PM

More Doras!!YesYes

Eric

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:44 PM

Jester75

More Doras!!YesYes

I may have to extend the GB to accomodate it but the way its looking I don't think I'll have any complaints about the short extension. This Eduard A-8 is really alot of work if carried out to the letter!

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:33 PM

No argument Here Joe!...

OK , Having said that , let us begin... This will be an Fw190 A-4 flown by Lt. Heinrich Steer. "Bazi" (Rascal) of 6/JG54 Esatern front 1944. I found a cool little Monogram at a yard sale and am going to attempt to dress it up a bit, with Edwuard cockpit PE, Eduard guns, Aires BMW 801 resin engine, White metal landing gear, True detail wheels and Msap decals. The fuselage will never do the way its molded so lets start cutting that sucker up! Hope I can do this one right...

Thanks

Doug (RR)

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:51 PM

Just take your time with this one. Build the engine like it is its own model. Go slow and test fit test fit test fit.

                   

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Posted by Reasoned on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:14 PM

Wow Doug, you're a true modeler to take this on, I'll be watching. Wink

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:24 AM

Doug. When I commented earlier I was at work and cannot view the posted pictures. Now that I'm home I can clearly see that there are alot of goodies you have with that kit! Nice cutting job with the thread by the way! This outta be good, Joe

                   

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Posted by Jester75 on Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:00 AM

Wow Doug, looking forward to following this one!!

Eric

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:41 AM

Thanks guys... I'm gonna give it my all. The thing I like about the thread method of cutting is if you take your time and use the right size thread you can actually cut between rivit lines, like is shown in the pictures. You cant do that with a saw or ziz wheel. Well its cautiously coming along...More soon!

Thanks for encouragment and support.

Doug (RR)

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Posted by FlyItLikeYouStoleIt on Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:40 PM

Well, I'll post the pics soon but I have a few more small items checked off in my build. I'm scratchbuilding safety harnesses to add to my modified seat (not necessarily accurizing the seat; I just didn't like it as it was).

Cockpit's coming along. Hasegawa wasn't much concerned about portraying an accurate cockpit in which to park their ugly seat, were they? Pretty pathetic but I'm stubborn so.....

Hey, did all the Fw190s shoulder harness's attach to the base of the head rest? If so, since the head rest is actually part of the canopy and the canopy had explosive bolts to eject it in the event it was too damaged to open normally, umm I'm guessing the pilot better be damn sure to unbuckle his seat belts before blowing the canopy. Or was that an early form of ejection seat? LoL

Bill.

On the bench:  Lindberg 1/32 scale 1934 Ford Coupe and a few rescue projects.

In queue:  Tamiya 1/35 Quad Tractor or a scratch build project.

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Posted by Nathan T on Friday, May 17, 2013 7:13 AM

The shoulder harness attached to the cockpit upper deck behind the seat, not the headrest. I can post a pic or two later if you dont' have any.

 

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:47 AM

  Still waiting for some of the AM parts to arrive but Got some more work done...The cockpit is done and I'm starting on the engine, ...

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:51 AM

Well, I have the fuselage about right to begin with, after cutting panels off, they need to be thinned, (a bit more before final assy) I opened up the vents and cleaned up the cuts. The fire wall bulkhead and gun deck han to be made fron scratch styrene pieces... so far so good...

Doug (RR)

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:22 AM

Looking nice, Doug! I can't wait to see what you'll build out of this kit...

I am working on my Butcher birds as well, but didn't have much time for them. Limited bench-time lately and managing the Carrier GB makes progress slow...

Clemens

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:39 AM

Doug,

That's a really cool 190 you've go going there.  Great work with the thread.  I have that same BMW 801 in the stash so I'm really looking forward to what you do with it.  Keep up the good work!

Steve

 

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, May 19, 2013 12:08 PM

  Steve... Its a bit confusing at first , but its a great engine kit! Depending on application, additional trimming and adjusting will be required but well worth the effort.My only suggestion is to wait until instllation before fitting exhaust. Due to the fact that I'm addapting to a kit that was never intended to have an engine installed I've encountered "special" issues with it, but I think its going to be OK.

  Clemens... Plenty of time left! This last week or so has been the oppisite for me, I'm kinda-sorta semi retired and I've been a bit under the weather so I've had loads of time to build, not to mention my wife is back home for a visit for a month in the Philippines. Any way Building is a balance as a builder on another sits says To hurried makes bad results, to lax makes no results, or something like that. Hes right.

  I'm kinda at a stop right now still waiting for parts I ordered tyo arrive. Oh well... You have a great week! Hope to see more progress from all soon! Love the WIP  pics.

Doug

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