Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

flyitlikeyoustoleit: Man that engine is really awesome! Really like the detail youve put into that thing. Will offer a suggestion for you on highlighting. I used a silver lead pencil to bring out the corners and rounded edges to simulate worn metal. It really works great. Not picking at yours at all. Just trying to give you a trade secret you may not know yet, Joe

Finally was able to get back onto the build here. Still slow going but making some progress. Now I'm playing around here trying to figure why Photoshop is acting up on me and won't show the pics?

Okay I now have to delete part of the img code. It's always something. Added some detail and pre-shading on the gun decking.

Added cannon plugs down the sidewalls, adding the wiring will be fun. Had cut out the shell casing ejection chutes underneath.

Started work on the cockpi. Surprising a kit this size and it did not have a throttle so that was scratched built. roughed up the seat cushion abit, tried to give the map case a little more depth. Rudder straps is foil from a yougart cup.

Now I'm getting some paint on. Have a lot more to do before it's finish but it's a start.

Now it's a toss up to use either the airscale instrument decal sheet or the Eduard instrument bezel set?

Just test fitting the engine to the mounts. I was going to cut out the exhaust pipes and use metal tubing but decided not to to save time and once painted don't think anyone would be able to tell the difference anyways.

Once I finish painting and detailing the engine, will start adding the wiring, wiring harnesses and hoses. Have found several excellent pics of the BMW engines but none showing good close up shots of the engine enstalled.

I did test fit the engine assembly to the fuselage and it appears that I fixed the Airfix 5mm problem of the fan assembly sticking out pass the cowling rings. So that was a break. Well back to the kit, more later...

Scott

Well thank you, Joe! Silver lead pencil huh? Is that just a normal graphite writing pencil that's silver instead of gray-ish? Or a special hobby tool? And, would the results be similar to that of dry brushing with silver?

Scott, great progress there. My  kit is lacking a lot of cockpit detail as well. No throttle or throttle friction knob. Missing flap adjustment, etc... I like what you're doing around the gun deck too. I'm going to be peaking over your shoulder for some tips and tricks further on in my build, man

Bill and Scott, Excellent work on both your engines. Very nice detailing detailing and painting.

FlyItLikeYouStoleIt

Well thank you, Joe! Silver lead pencil huh? Is that just a normal graphite writing pencil that's silver instead of gray-ish? Or a special hobby tool? And, would the results be similar to that of dry brushing with silver?

Archangel: Way to go chief. Youre looking good so far and glad to see you around these parts again, Joe

In addition to that silver pencil, one can also buy one in gun-metal color.  That comes in handy sometimes as well.

Gary

Texgunner

In addition to that silver pencil, one can also buy one in gun-metal color.  That comes in handy sometimes as well.

Gary

mustang1989

Texgunner

In addition to that silver pencil, one can also buy one in gun-metal color.  That comes in handy sometimes as well.

Gary

I didn't know that. Will be acquiring one of those as well. Thanks a mil Gary!

You're very welcome brother!  

[View:http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/Devil-Dog7275/media/Heinrich Sterr Fw190 A4 Yellow 2/images_zps54e919fa.jpg.html?sort=2&o=3#/user/Devil-Dog7275/media/Heinrich Sterr Fw190 A4 Yellow 2/IL2-IF-Fw-190A4-6_JG54-Yellow-2-Bar-Sterr-1943-V17_zps84cc5005.jpg.html?sort=2&o=2&_suid=1368142564648010648445420603036:600:0]OK... To start, Scott , nice start...Tex Gunner, Good info, I've always opted to dry brush but there are those times... I will head for the hobby shop this weekend to see whats offered, thanks for the tip! Man Joe, I just cant tell you how much I appreciate you doing this GB. So many great builds and good info being shown here. I Love It!

Well... #3... I found (at a yard sale today) a Monogram Fw190,1/48 scale, STILL SEALED in the box for   $1.50. I thought about leaving in the box....For about 30 sec, Then tore it open. Man, I forgot how cool these old Monogram kits are, The fuselage and wings are just beautiflly rivited and paneled, and the copyrite and molding date in the fuse half is 1968. Well I thought about a thread I exchanged with Nathan where I had not wanted to try and do alot od detail to a 1/48 and his reply was ... They scream for detail too! Well Hell...Why not. My next build will be this 1/48 Monogram Fw190 (A-4) The aircraft flown by

ObLt Heinrich "Bazi" (Rascal) Sterr, 6/Jg54 Yellow 2 bar. This cought my eye while researching and I think is one of the coolest camo schemes I've seen. (Luftwaffe that is) Going as far out as I dare on this one,Aires BMW 801 resin engine,Tru-Detail seat, pit, and wheels, Eduard PE set,White metal landing gear,Eduard guns... There will be alot of scratch built too since this kit has no firewall, engine mount and many other items that will be required. OH, there will be ALOT of thread cutting also, since all panels and cowlings will have to be greatyly altered.

                                             Keep me in your prayers , Please...(ha)

Sorry guys, not sure what happened to the last post. Picture never printed and not sure what garbled the upper text, Any way I will try again top get picture to load...

Thanks

Doug (RR)001zpsb8a2c855.jpg.html?sort=2&o=2

Sorry. I give up, I cant seem to get pictures to print, Will try more later...

LOL, $100.00 in AM in a $1.50 Monogram 190, go for it RR!

Rigid, You da Man! I cannot wait to see you work your magic on this one. This is gonna be Great!

  Thanks guys...I am going to give it my best... Just a question, is any one else having problems with Photo Bucket? Man... their "New" format and site SUX!!! I have had nothing but trouble since they forced us to change, and cant remove photos, because it will cause everything previously to vanish. I do everything as before and nothing but trouble, long waits, freezes up, wont uopload or download properly... I mean just ...Man.

Thanks again guys...

Doug (RR)

Not that keen on the new PB eithe Doug, but not as many problems as it sounds like you are having.

Mustang - I'm down for an Academy A-8, but the aircraft I wanted to do was a French A-5 , so I've ordered a Hasegawa one. Could you change my entry please.

Cheers

Tony

I was having troubles posting from Photoshop the other day. Go to the right side of the Photoshop page to Links to Share, click on IMG to copy the link. Than post the link in your replies.

Than delete the first part of the link from the [URL to the end of the .jpg.html] leaving only the last partof the link starting with [IMG to [/IMG] and than remove the URL at the tail end. It seems to work for me.

REMOVE... [URL=http://s152.photobucket.com/user/scottpeck53/media/FW-190%20Group%20Build/DSC_0605.jpg.html]          LEAVE...  [IMG]http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/scottpeck53/FW-190%20Group%20Build/DSC_0605.jpg[/IMG

Scott

Thanks Tony, Thanks Scott... I mean what a process to go through when the old site worked pretty darn good. Reasoned and Joe R... LOL... Yeah maybe a little off the deep end but Im gonna give it a shot! Nathan... this is your fault!LOLOLOL.No, really, Reasoned, not as much as you might think, like you I tend to be a bit frugal, but what the hey.So most everything is less then full price. Thanks guys!

Doug (RR)

Hey Doug, Just my take on your photobucket issue. All I do is simply copy and paste. I have had  no troubles so far posting pics.

Thanks Joe... I thought thas what I was doing, hilite the address on the picture,copy,bring to FSM paste and insert. You see what the results are. Its worked fine up to yesterday. I just sent a request to explain on the photo bucket site. Guess I'll have to see what they say. Might just flee to Flickr. I will check them out if not satisfied with PB reply. Thanks again Joe.

Doug (RR)

Rigidrider

Sorry guys, not sure what happened to the last post. Picture never printed and not sure what garbled the upper text, Any way I will try again top get picture to load...

Thanks

Doug (RR)001zpsb8a2c855.jpg.html?sort=2&o=2

 

Sorry. I give up, I cant seem to get pictures to print, Will try more later...

Hey Rigid, is this your pic?

Whoa, big picture! But yeah, purdy bird.

I was having lots of trouble getting pics to post (especially from photobucket) until I started using Google Chrome as my browser. Now, regardless of where the pic is, I right click on it,choose "Copy Image" then go to the post and right click, choose "Paste" .  There it is. I got this pic from your photobucket. I had to click on it to view outside of the slideshow it was in, and then proceed

Well, I'm discovering all kinds of things about my Hasegawa 190, some good, some not. The fuselage is a terrible fit. Gonna take a bit of filling to hide the seam on bottom and the cowling doesn't even come close to lining up.

One cool thing though; Wilhelm Galland's  A5 had the retro-fit air intakes. That'll be kind of fun to scratch those additions. Even if I cant get them perfect, they often looked bad on the real planes as they were usually cobbled on in the field. Picture shows the leftside intake (vaguely) and markings for Gallands A5.

Morning Bill... Yup, thats the one. They were using the standard brown and green camo, and during the winter solid white. Some chose to remove portions of the white exposing the brown and green underneath then adding splotches of black to try and break up their outline. I'm going to give it a shot!

 Thanks for the help, I just dont understand why PB had to change their format. It worked! But NOOOOO... lets change it and make it very difficult to use. If "Chrome" isnt too much problem to download I might just use it too. I mean shoot, even my Email, you click on picture and click on attach...No problem! Any way, Thanks again Bill... Wasn't Wilhelm and his brother killed? I think Adolph was the only brother that survived.

I can second Chrome as well, best browser period. I left IE many moons ago and haven't looked back once! I've tried Firefox as well but just didn't like the feel of it.

Thanks Jester I'll check into it...

Yes, Rigid, Wilhelm "Wutz" and Paul were both KIA. Adolf went on to tell his tales for many a year and is, in some cases, the only source for some of their battle details.  I'm attempting to depict Wutz's A5 that he was flying when shot down Aug 17th '43.

I'm only just learning all of this as I research details for the plane. I'm building it to represent Wutz's final aircraft per my neighbor's request, as I am building it for him.

Very cool... That makes it all the more special. I am holding a 1/24 Fw190A for a special build but I'm sure I'll never put it to that use, a former girlfriends Grandfather flew a 190A towards the end of the war, he is long since past now but she was going to get me the info so I could build it for him(in his honor). Still waiting... (grin) Best of luck with the build and cant wait to see it come together.

Doug (RR)

Hey, does anyone know if Clemens tried slicing the nose off of his kit yet? Because . . . . Rigid . . . .  that thread method you told us about. That is freakin outstanding, man.

Now, I know you said to use cotton thread, but I only had polyester on hand and gave it a try. If cotton is better, it must just let you sit back and watch while it cuts for you, as I had no trouble what-so-ever cutting the rudder off of my 190 with the poly. Granted, the panel line for the rudder was pretty darn deep so that helped. But, wow! 

This first pic shows cutting half the rudder with a knife.

This second one shows cutting the other half with the thread.

and the 3rd shows the results of both methods. If you look closely enough, you might be able to see that the thread side (left) resulted in a much cleaner cut that required only slight clean-up to get it nice and smooth with virtually no loss of material.

Thanks for the tip, Rigid! It was soooo easy and using the thread this way leaves no chance of screwing up and cutting too far. With how easy that is, I'll probably open up the radio access panel and throw some iteresting bits in there. The possibilities are endless. Gunner ports on bombers; roof hatches on APCs; whatever.

Look out plastic! There's gonna be holes in fuselages where you didn't even know you had holes.

Bill: I haven't tried it out yet, but I'll start on some projects this week:

1) Wildcat for my Carrier GB

2) the 2 Butcher Birds for this GB (I will cut the fuse right after i finish the cockpit)

3) a He-162 for the Special Wingdings GB

4) my favorite: Tamiya's Thunderbolt for the Force of Nature and Reich Defenders GBs

Clemens

SOLD! Given that demonstration Bill I'mm going ti be all over that method. Thanks Doug.

No problem guys, Just passing on some valuable info I was given many moons ago. Bill, I try to use a higher cotton content because its more durable. Polyester works and on smaller models it works good but polyester is similar to the material thats being cut and while it will cut, its being melted also. Cotton is just more durable thats all. The trick is just take your time. Your cut looks great! nice smooth and clean! Pretty neat trick ,huh? Yeah I started cutting up my little Monogram 190 today with thread. Looking forward to seeing some more!

Take care...

Doug (RR)