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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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Posted by falconmod on Friday, December 6, 2013 9:08 AM

Allen,

it looks great so far, you are a brave dude,  those white/winter scheme's scare me to death.  Hopefully I get some bench time for my two 190's this weekend.  Supposed to -17 F  tonight

John

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Posted by Chanter on Friday, December 6, 2013 9:03 AM

Joe, that is looking fantastic!  I really envy you guys that throw down complex camouflage schemes so effectively.  Regarding the toning down of decals technique you're going to use, I'll have to go back through the pages to find out more about it.  

I managed to get a wee bit done on mine.  I ran a .5mm pencil lead lightly along all the panel lines and then tried a bit of work with pastels for the exhaust stains although I'm not sure if it is dark enough.  Got the Future sprayed on and have started to decal.  Once that's all done, I'll try my hand at some more weathering and dulling down the decals to reduce the contrast.20131205_224614

I didn't paint the plate behind the exhaust black, just kind of copied from the picture on the Eagle Cal sheet.

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It's slowly getting there...

Allen

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, December 6, 2013 6:06 AM

and like Doug says, and I stress, LOW PRESSURE!!!

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, December 6, 2013 5:31 AM

Man, shes looking great j

Joe...careful on that top coat now... I usually start at about 80% thinner to 20% color to start with, and lightly mist it on, you wont see the results when wet, after dried it will show results. Hint... a hair dryer works wonders at thisstage...

Looking fwd to seeing the effect you choose.

Doug

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, December 6, 2013 5:25 AM

I'll second that one Joe! That is definitely a one of a kind scheme! Glad to see the progress pal!

                   

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Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:10 PM

Ooohh, looking good Joe. I really like the camo. You got the look of the real machine there. Looking forward to the final weathering.

 

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:00 PM

Hi Guys! It is a refreshing feeling to be able to post some progress pics for you all. I have applied a pin wash along the panel lines using MIG Productions Abteilung modeling oils thinned with turpenoid. Some of the panel lines were a bit to shallow to effectively take the wash and consequently are lighter than other surrounding lines. I will touch these up with pastels. This was then sealed up with a coat of Tamiya flat cote. And that is where I am currently at. My next step will be to tone the camo and decals down a bit with Doug's suggested elixir of rubbing alcohol tinted with Tamiya gray.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:54 AM

I can see planning GBs for 2014 but 15?? Let's all try to keep the scope of the GBs just lined up with the next year for now. Before you know it we will have GBs planned out for 2020!

                   

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Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:29 PM

I'd rather see a GB dedicated to all German Jets/rocket propelled aircraft. More subjects thus more participation. Now that I think about it, GBs for 2014 are plenty enough already. I forgot Bish's Stuka GB is coming up. Us Luftwaffe builder's will be busy til 2015 already.

 

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, December 3, 2013 4:27 PM

I was actually planning on hosting a series of GBs with a duration of 6 months each. The themes of those GBs are German (very) late-war planes. The first plane would be the Komet and the Salamander is #2. How about making the 2nd one for the 262 and having the Salamander in 2015? I could extend it to a full year if 6 months aint enough...

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, December 3, 2013 1:38 PM

Hmmmmm... ;-)

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Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, December 3, 2013 1:13 PM

...Someone should take that on for a GB at the second half of 2014?

 

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:22 AM

Matt and Joe (mustang) I agree with you both, I mean it though... I am really wanting to do an me262 ....well.... maybe 3 0r 4, lol... Im in if the opportunity arises.

Doug

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, December 2, 2013 6:02 PM

Nathan - that D-13 is great. It was worth all the work and has very good realism.

Matt - Great finish on yours too, these are both motivating models for me.

Cheers

Tony

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Posted by Greg on Monday, December 2, 2013 4:29 PM

Nathan T

Glad you like it Greg. I am pretty happy with it. Very tempted to do another Wurger. My 190 collection has almost outgrown my 109 collection because of this GB!

If you decide to build another,  that would be great, Nathan! You're a lot of fun to have here. And I learn stuff too. Smile

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Posted by Nathan T on Monday, December 2, 2013 4:10 PM

Glad you like it Greg. I am pretty happy with it. Very tempted to do another Wurger. My 190 collection has almost outgrown my 109 collection because of this GB!

 

 

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Posted by Greg on Monday, December 2, 2013 3:44 PM

Gee, I got way behind ....again.

Nathan, that some a masterfully executed work. Pretty much in awe of it. That's a first class camo or mottling or whatever we're supposed to call it job. Thanks for sharing this build with us.

Matt, she came together beautifully. Very nice work and I'm also glad you joined in here.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, December 1, 2013 10:31 PM

That would be great if somebody started a 262 or WWII jet GB at the end of 14!! I predict alot of wild builds out of that one!!

                   

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Sunday, December 1, 2013 7:51 PM

Rigidrider

Matt... You mentioned an Me262... I have had the damndest craving to build an Me262 for a while now... is this a GB? I havent noticed any listed here or did I just over look? Thanks, and hope you find the to do another here...

Doug

Doug,

No Group Build that I know of, the 262 just happened to be towards the top of my "which one now" list.  Also it will be nice to build in 1/32 scale for a change, will be easier to get the paint scheme right.  I will be painting it as yellow 4 from the eagle cal decal sheet. Think that I saw some pictures of the scheme over on swannys models site.  I do also have a Hasa A-4 kit that I also have the snake decals for so that might be my next swing into the 190 world.

Matt

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Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, December 1, 2013 4:38 PM

Well, they'd make a good xmas present....

 

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, December 1, 2013 10:00 AM

Nathan T
Rix- Buy those Japo Books!!!!!! They are super sweet and rare. Some say they are better than Crandal's works. If I had the cash (stupid holidays...), I'd buy them in a heart beat. Tons of rare photos in those volumes. Polish and English writing. Great camo color

Yeeeah. And I would be subsequently banished to a living hell by my wife that surpasses even my darkest imagination.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:57 AM

Matt... You mentioned an Me262... I have had the damndest craving to build an Me262 for a while now... is this a GB? I havent noticed any listed here or did I just over look? Thanks, and hope you find the to do another here...

Doug

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Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, December 1, 2013 1:15 AM

Thanks for the good input Guys! Glad to be apart of the group here. Hard to say if I'll  build another soon, as I have some Soviet VVS subjects lined up. If I did build another it would be my Eduard A-9, as I've found some cool obscure theme's in some wrecked photos.

Rix- Buy those Japo Books!!!!!! They are super sweet and rare. Some say they are better than Crandal's works. If I had the cash (stupid holidays...), I'd buy them in a heart beat. Tons of rare photos in those volumes. Polish and English writing. Great camo color interpretations.

 

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, November 30, 2013 10:54 PM

Nathan: Wonderful, wonderful build! That just looks sweet. Thanks yet again for sharing your knowledge and skills with us. Do you have another one in the que for us?

Matt: Excellent work my friend. You turned out a really fantastic paint job as well as the build all around. Sorry to hear you won't be joining us with another but, I do understand. Lord knows I have plenty of other subjects begging my attention. Stay in touch with us and take care.

As a matter of interest, is anyone familiar with these books? They just came up for sale on ebay. The fella sure wants a pretty penny for them. May be the fact that they are hard to find. He's also selling them each individually.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Focke-Wulf-Fw-190D-Camouflage-amp-Markings-Part-I-amp-Part-II-/131059412044?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:32 PM

mustang1989

Thats an awesome build Matt! I like how flat your finish turned out. That was something I was wrestling with for the longest time until Doug shed some light on that for me. I'll get your pics on the intro post today man. Thank you for continuing to contribute such awesome work and knowledge to this build. Feel free to grab another..................we've got some time here!

I am sorely tempted to build, as I have a few left in the stash, however my aries detail kit for my Do-335 arrived today, and there is a 1/32 Me-262 that is calling my name.  Still haven't decided which one will be the next project, but I will keep at least one eye on this GB, that is for sure.

matt

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Posted by Jester75 on Saturday, November 30, 2013 10:34 AM

Damn!

Nathan, Matt, Joe, those are all some gorgeous 190's!!!!

This group build is like the Energizer bunny, just keeps going and going and going...

Eric

 

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Posted by Nathan T on Saturday, November 30, 2013 10:17 AM

Great finish Matt. I like the green and RLM 75 combonation. I just dig the lines of the Tank. Thanks for coming back and building another Wurger.

 

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, November 30, 2013 6:29 AM

Joe ...

Not at all bud,,, You just beat me to it! lol...

Nathan... Outstanding my friend! A testament not only to the D-13 but to your Skill and talent! Beautifuly done!

Matt, Also a well executed and built Ta152... concept, paint assy, all very well done!

Congrats to you both!!! Another good place to find books is on amazon.com , sometimes they beat  Ebay by a ton. Also Matt, you are right on, this GB is the best!

Doug

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, November 30, 2013 6:19 AM

Thats an awesome build Matt! I like how flat your finish turned out. That was something I was wrestling with for the longest time until Doug shed some light on that for me. I'll get your pics on the intro post today man. Thank you for continuing to contribute such awesome work and knowledge to this build. Feel free to grab another..................we've got some time here!

                   

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Friday, November 29, 2013 11:58 PM

mustang1989

blkhwkmatt:Saw you asked which book the excerpts were from and Doug and I are pretty tight so I don't think he'll take this as stepping on his toes (he's actually the guy responsible for me having a copy of this book). This is the book you are asking about from Robert Grinsell and it's a good book:

Mustang - thanks for the lead, just grabbed myself a copy of of ol' evilbay!!!

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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