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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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  • From: Georgia
Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, July 21, 2013 7:39 PM

Joe... LOLOLOLOL Thats funny!

Bill... If its the Lone Eagle series, Very basic and IMO one of the poorest examples Revelle ever produced. Is it the 1/32? I have both the Lone Eagle series Bf (they designate Me) 109F and G and they are very plain and basic kits, However, The 1/32 Fw 190-D seemed to be a fairly decent kit and fit together well. Alot of trimming and cleaning of parts, but not a bad build. Alot of these kits I find at yard sales and such,cheap. If I spend money on Revelle its usually Revelle of Germany. Vast differences. Just my opinion...

Doug

When Life Hands You A Bucket Of Lemons...

Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, July 21, 2013 7:40 PM

The Bunny Fighter Club prices are pretty low for me, but I am no member. I'm still waiting for a bunny kit I like. It was a Mig.21 last time I had a look at their shop, but I don't need one...

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:14 PM

Eric, those are looking stunning. Interesting you posted a pic of post-solvaset application. Been going through that myself past several days (lots of decals)

Doug, I think I dodged the bullet and didn't order that particular kit. Looks awfully close, though! We'll see.

Joe, love the shoe comeback. Perfect. Trouble is my other half doesn't waste money on a darned thing that I can harass her about. :)

Mustang, I was just kidding. I committed (and probably should be committed). Please put me down for Hasegawa's 1/48th FW190F-8 with BT700 Bomben Torpedo Limited Edition. Hope I made a wise choice from within the Hasegawa line. I liked the paint scheme and thought a this will be my first freehand camo attempt. First camo with airbrush, period. :) I think it is going to be pretty much OOB, couldn't find any aftermarket stuff, and my emphasis is going to be on the exterior and finish this time. And thanks for letting me join your GB!

Clemens, thanks for letting me know about the Squadron sale, got a good price on the above kit this afternoon. Quite good. My first purchase from Squadron.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:34 PM

Don't worry there Greg. You made an excellent choice of kit. It will be cool to see a build with the torpedo.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:35 PM

I actually heard about the squadron sale in this GB! I hate them for having such a good offer, but so high shipping costs. Aint worth it in the end...

I just went ahead and ordered that A-8 kit at Hannants for the full price... It was 22 bucks and they charged only 4 bucks for shipping (all prices in Pounds). If you convert that into Euros, you pay a bit more than 30€ including shipping. That's even cheaper than on the Eduard website!

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:40 PM

You know Clemens I very much like Hannants. I've ordered from the on a few occasions as they have odd stuff you can't seem to find here. Not to mention their shipping to the states is quite reasonable and rather quick.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:42 PM

I just did a quick Google search regarding your kit. Looks like it's a nice one! Are you building it with the camo scheme displayed on the box art? I love that camo pattern! I might have to get myself one of those kits as well. They are just so bloody expensive... (almost twice as much as the Eduard profipacks) Mabe I'll pick one up when Hannants makes a special offer for it...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:46 PM

Joe: Yep, they have some nice stuff. There's only one thing I'm missing: Mr Surfacer (in those little jars). Does anyone know where I can get that stuff and some Solvaset? Hannants' shipping fees are great as well (never had to pay more than 7 bucks for up to 3 kits). It just takes a long time to get here... (I always chose the cheapest airmail option though)

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:51 PM

LOL I just noticed that this kit IS in fact on sale at Hannants. It still is somehow expensive (38 bucks). I'd be able to get 3 Eduard kits instead if it wasn't reduced...

I'll buy one of them in August if it's still on sale untill then...

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  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:14 PM

Clemens, Here is a link to Hobbywave for Mr. Surfacer. Another very good internet hobby store. It's where I get my Gunze/Sangyo paint and thinner.

www.hobbywave.com/.../surfacer

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:19 PM

Clemens, concerning solvaset I found it on ebay as well as here:

www.hobbymasters.com/Hobsco-Walthers-Decal-Setting-Solvent-Solvaset.aspx

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, July 22, 2013 5:51 AM

Thanks! I think I have to place some orders...

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, July 22, 2013 8:06 AM

Greg:Now I have you down buddy. This makes you the only one building a torpedo carrying version so far. Looking forward to seeing your build.

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, July 22, 2013 8:35 AM

Hello again everybody. Well I've got "wheels down" today. Wheels are still setting up on the strut but got it done one day off of schedule. Todays pic aint great quality but its the only one I have time for this morning.

                   

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Posted by Jester75 on Monday, July 22, 2013 8:42 AM

Sweet Joe, she got leggzz!!! And I see a radial back there that looks like its dying to get fit, cant wait!! I spy some Aires goodies there, for the Tamiya 190 perhaps???

Eric

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, July 22, 2013 8:48 AM

Thanks Eric. I'm not so sure about the wire harness but I still have a little work to do to that. The engine is a spare that I used for test fitting and the Airies stuff is 1) for the D-9 and 2) for my Do-335. Always have lots of goodies on hand.

                   

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, July 22, 2013 8:51 AM

AIRES!!!! I love me some Aires stuff...

She's looking nice, Joe! Now slap that radial on!

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, July 22, 2013 9:56 AM

Yeah I've got Aires stuff all over the place. God only knows how much money I've spent on those sets. I've got one for my Stuka, Do-335, my 190 D-9 and next Bf109G. Sometimes the kit has to take a little "tweekin'" but they generally do great by me.

                   

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Posted by falconmod on Monday, July 22, 2013 10:11 AM

Well since I just entered this GB, here are a few pics of the Dragon Fw190A-8 I'm doing.  Not real impressed with the way the cowling attaches to the fuselage,  I like the Tamiya way better.  I forgot to get pictures of the Tamiya 190A-3 I just finished. I'll try to post those in a couple of days.

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, July 22, 2013 10:25 AM

How is the fit of that Dragon kit? Hannants has the Dragon kits on sale ATM (15 bucks for the A-7)

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Posted by falconmod on Monday, July 22, 2013 10:34 AM

The fit seems fine, it's just not real clear how well the cowling attaches.  I assume it will be better when the wing section is put on.  I had to file down the sides of the seat to get it to slide in there and fit.  That's as far as I am at this point.

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, July 22, 2013 10:48 AM

I think I might actually get me one of those kits. The A-7 with the fancy fuel tanks is really cheap...

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Posted by falconmod on Monday, July 22, 2013 10:52 AM

That is a good deal.   it is a very nice kit,  lots of good detail and good instructions.   I have to use after market painting instructions for the the correct paint as the paint the specify I cant get at my LHS.

I think it still in RLM74.75/76 as the main colors.

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by Jester75 on Monday, July 22, 2013 10:52 AM

Nice progress John. Having never built a Dragon 190, it will be interesting to see the sub assemblies and how the whole thing goes together.

Eric

 

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Posted by falconmod on Monday, July 22, 2013 10:55 AM

Yes the front end is different than the Tamiya,  the dragon has no separate engine under the cowl.  Not that you can see it anyway with the fan blade in the way,  so not a big deal by any means.

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, July 22, 2013 11:42 AM

Is that cowl molded as one piece?

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Posted by falconmod on Monday, July 22, 2013 11:49 AM

No it's actually 4 pieces!  I don't really like that, you have to make sure all the edges are lined up.

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, July 22, 2013 11:59 AM

It looks like it was one piece on that pic you posted... Great work lining all those parts up so well! I'm about to order the A-7 together with an F-8 (Eduard). I'm not too sure about that though.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, July 22, 2013 12:19 PM

falconmod:Man that cockpit is coming together nicely and the mate up between the fuselage halves looks great. Haven't ever built a Dragon kit yet. Got a couple in the ol stash but haven't gotten around to them yet. Good job so far, Joe

Everybody:Well the wheels are down on the ground now so I decided to take the thing outside and take a pic of it since my house lighting sucks so bad and I'm glad I did. The light outside really showed off all the weathering on the whole plane as well as the weathering on the access panels. Here goes:

                   

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Monday, July 22, 2013 12:25 PM

Joe (Rix), glad to hear you think I picked a good kit. Thanks!

Joe (Mustang), thanks for adding the kit.

Your WIP really looks good. Love the exterior finish. I have a dumb question or two. Being new to so much of this, I get confused by the order of things. Most of the builds in progress I see pretty much have the exterior done in one shot. Wondering why the front section is waiting for later, and secondly curious how the joins will be blended into that gorgeous exterior finish.Perhaps pics later when you join the front end will answer my questions.

I do realise that there are probably no right or wrong orders of things, just trying to learn more about why various folks take different approaches for different challenges.

Clemens, yes I am going to try my best to duplicate the box art, or whatever painting diagrams may or may not be included. Being not very familiar with any non-civilian aircraft really, that's the best I can attempt at this stage. Smile

I hope you find a source for some Walthers Solvaset. There are some things I remember from my last build years (decades?) ago, and I do remember that when I managed to use it right, the results were very good. It is more aggressive than MicroSol, but I'm sure you already know that.

John, I too will be interested to watch your build. Dragon kits are yet unknown to me. I really like watching other folks progress pics. I learn a lot. Remembering what I learn is my challenge. :)

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