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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:39 PM

I think it's decided now:

I'll host a "Pfeil" GB. Just give me an our or two. It would need a name though... Any ideas?

I have an idea for the badge as well...

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Posted by tyrithe on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:44 PM

Man.. I just get this one started and you guys go and start another one... :)

Anyway.  No pics yet, cockpit is assembled.  Planning to use decal for IP (This one is going to also be a relearning expedition.)  Any suggestions on color for drybrushing the side panels?

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:23 PM

SchattenSpartan

I think it's decided now:

I'll host a "Pfeil" GB. Just give me an our or two. It would need a name though... Any ideas?

I have an idea for the badge as well...

I would love to join in something like that Clemens. Right now is just out of the question for me as I have a Dauntless to finish up for your GB, and a D-9 to start on after that. With all the goodies I have for that 335 I'll be a year getting that one done for sure! I will be game later on for something like that though. It would give me the perfect excuse to get that one built.

                   

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Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:17 AM

Ok, I this might be a dumb question,  but what are the propeller blades of a 190 made of?   steel or wood.   I assume steel but a friend suggested they might be wood.

Thanks

John

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:41 AM

Both. Some were made of wood (those wth the wider blades) others were made of steel.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:46 AM

Clemens... I'm in for the Pfeil GB but like Joe said, Kinda booked up right now, Maybe near the New Year?  Its not that far away, and will give a bit of time to plan and refine.

Doug

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 5:16 AM

I set this GB up already:

cs.finescale.com/.../1672281.aspx

It starts on August 1st and runs untill February 1st.

I don't really want to close it again, but I could change the end date to August 1st, 2014...

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Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:54 AM

Ok, here's some pics of the 190A-3 I'm just completing for those of you that asked. Big Smile I just have the canopy, landing gear and propeller to finish and attach.

Thanks for looking

John

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:49 AM

Dang John. That mottle pattern looks great! Nice job on the decals too. When I get to this stage I my impulse is to hurry up and get it done and I have to settle the horses down and continue to build at the same pace as I did up to that point.

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:52 AM

Well I'm back with a small update. Got the engine installed (have a couple of obstacles to overcome with that). Working on the cowl clean up and installation right now.

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:54 AM

The pic was taken this morning so its not as clear as the one I took at lunch the other day. Will probably take another as most of the frontal detail will be covered up. The pic is just for my piece of mind that I did in fact put all of that PE on!!

                   

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Posted by Jester75 on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:57 AM

Whoa John, way to bust in here with an awesome looking 190, nice work!!!

Joe, that engine looks sweet and looks like it went in with not problems. Looking forward to some pics with a bit more lighting!!

Vacation is coming up this weekend for me and my family so probably wont be any updates from me till after the weekend. I will be peeking back in here though while gone and checking on any updates!

Eric

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:03 AM

Jester75
Joe, that engine looks sweet and looks like it went in with not problems. Looking forward to some pics with a

Thanks Eric. Will be posting one at lunch when theres alot more light.

                   

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Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:16 AM

mustang1989

Dang John. That mottle pattern looks great! Nice job on the decals too. When I get to this stage I my impulse is to hurry up and get it done and I have to settle the horses down and continue to build at the same pace as I did up to that point.

Joe,

  Thanks, that's actually my first time doing that kind of painting with a AB.  I was pleased with the out come.  I know what you mean by hurry,  the decals on the starboard side had a accident with the solveset and i had to remove the decals on the port side because the replacement decals didn't quite match, what a pain getting the dried decals off so I could do it all over again so both sides would match.

  Your engine looks great,  that kind detail scares me to death, I'm glad this 190 didn't have that option,  I'm not ready for it yet.

John

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Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:15 PM

I have a question about painting canopies on the 190.  since I will be painting the canopy in the standard 190 camo colors,  is there a base color I should paint first, ie(the one you will see form the inside before I put the RLM color on?    thanks for any help.

John

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:36 PM

Holy Smokes John, For someones first shot with an AB that is down right dynamite. I men that is some excellent work. To answer your question you should first paint your canopy frame with the same color as the cockpit then spray your exterior colors. That way it gives the appearance of the interior frame being more realistic.

Way to go Joe, You the man. That looks terrific.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 1:28 PM

falconmod

I have a question about painting canopies on the 190.  since I will be painting the canopy in the standard 190 camo colors,  is there a base color I should paint first, ie(the one you will see form the inside before I put the RLM color on?    thanks for any help.

John

I'll echo what Joe Rix said about the interior color first. What I end up doing is mask both sides and paint.

Thanks for the comment on the engine. It aint that bad though. You just have to treat it as its own model.

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 1:30 PM

Joe Rix:Thanks for the comment. I'm not really happy with the front of the engine as far as how the prop hub/ cooling fan didn't act right but I have a plan in place to take care of that.

                   

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 2:43 PM

John: Awesome work! I love that mottle pattern!

Joe: Very beautiful 190. Very beautiful indeed...

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 2:50 PM

John, if my first freehand airbrush attempt might come out 10% as well. Agree with the others, well done!!!!! It looks simply great.

Joe, awesome job on yours. Yes

You guys are good.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:34 PM

Thanks Greg! You'll be there in no time. Just hang around these parts a while and you'll pick up a thing or two. I did!

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:35 PM

Thanks for the cudos Clemens.Got some fit issues but will work them out.

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:51 PM

John... Very nice job for a first use of air brush... You seem to have the basics down well and you will learn many many neat tricks as you become more comfortable with it! Again, nice job!

Doug

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Posted by Texgunner on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:57 PM

My hat's off to you John!  That's great work for your first AB paint job.  Very nice beginning dude!  Keep the pics comin'.

Gary


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Posted by falconmod on Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:30 AM

Hey guys, I'm very embarrassed, Embarrassed I think my use of words was misunderstood.  I meant to say that I have never done a camo using mottling (WWII German),  mostly straight edge and masked type of air brushing, SEA and US navy stuff when I was doing it in the mid 80's. I have however not picked up a air brush for about twenty three years since shortly after I got married.(until last year that is) so I am a little rusty, 

   And I had never done any type of weathering until last year when after I went to my first show here in Minnesota.  And now a shameless plug for our web site.  I probably wouldn't have either if I didn't get on this web site.  Between 1990 and 2006 I was into scratch built R/C jets,  fiberglass molds and everything.  I did however build models from about 1966 to 1989, plastic, rockets etc etc.  It's what happens when you live 3 blocks from the best hobby store in the state (not kidding!)  most of my lawn mowing money went there!

So when do I get strung up for my 40 lashes with a solveset laced brush!Dead

John

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Posted by JOE RIX on Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:24 AM

No worries there John. I guess that is what I get for assuming. This in no way though lets you off the hook for receiving major cudos for pulling off an excellent Luftwaffe mottling for the first time. Nice!

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:53 AM

I realised what you meant, and kudos from me were based on same.

I'm still apprehensive to try freehand with the AB (but going to if my 190 arrives before this GB is over, so my hat remains tipped to you, John. No need to be embarrassed, I think.

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Posted by falconmod on Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:09 AM

Thanks Joe and Greg,

 I wouldn't be to apprehensive, I practice on a piece of card board the way I want to paint it before i actually spray the plane.   I do have one concern the spray pattern has rather large spots of paint, is this because I'm not thinning it enough or to low air pressure?  Not sure how to reduce the size of the spots of paint,  I do have the finest needle in my paasche AB.

John

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:30 AM

If I remember correctly I upped the pressure to about 30psi and adjusted the needle to where there was barely any paint coming out and just kept the AB moving. That was done with a medium needle/tip though.

                   

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Posted by falconmod on Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:39 AM

mustang1989

If I remember correctly I upped the pressure to about 30psi and adjusted the needle to where there was barely any paint coming out and just kept the AB moving.

I've got one of those old badger type compressors with no pressure adjustment or tank.  I do have a water trap/pressure dial that I was going to add to it,  will the water trap act like a small air tank?

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