Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

JOE RIX

Oh Hell Yeah John for getting in here with a 1/72 scale! I was feeling a bit lonely since Bish finished up. I am quite interested in seeing how your Airfix comes together. Not sure what your kids could be doing with your pin vise but I'll wager it doesn't fall under the "Use the right tool for the right job" category.

Can't wait to try mottling on this one!

SchattenSpartan

falconmod

Clemen's  you may want to add the 1/72 Airfix A-8 to my list.

That's cheating! 1/72 kits are way cheaper than my 1/48 ones.

Well, you got yourself an A-8 in 1/72, but I got myself an A-8/R2 (that can be built as a normal A-8 as well) in 1/48. It's the Eduard kit...

You can't beat me! Never!

John

Hey, John's back! Cool!!!

BD, forgot to mention too bad about the puppy damage. Be sure to show us what you come up on the repair! And glad the windex soak worked on the windscreen. Can't recall who recommended it to you, but an overnight soak has already saved me once in a similar situation.

Oh Hell Yeah John for getting in here with a 1/72 scale! I was feeling a bit lonely since Bish finished up. I am quite interested in seeing how your Airfix comes together. Not sure what your kids could be doing with your pin vise but I'll wager it doesn't fall under the "Use the right tool for the right job" category.

falconmod

Clemen's  you may want to add the 1/72 Airfix A-8 to my list.

That's cheating! 1/72 kits are way cheaper than my 1/48 ones.

Well, you got yourself an A-8 in 1/72, but I got myself an A-8/R2 (that can be built as a normal A-8 as well) in 1/48. It's the Eduard kit...

You can't beat me! Never!

Glad to be back at the bench.   Now if the kids would stop taking my tools!!  WHERE IS MY PIN VISE!! What they could do with that I'll never know.  

John

Gotcha entered in John! It's good to see you back buddy!

falconmod

Clemen's  you may want to add the 1/72 Airfix A-8 to my list

I'm back!  I feel like i've been off the list for ever, working late and family commitments.  I haven't been able to do much of anything until this weekend.  almost done with my initial A-8, just some PE antenna's left.

As you can see I've started my fw190A-7 (Dragon) snake head scheme,  and I just picked up the 1/72 AIRFIX fw190A-8 with the snake head scheme.  so I'll have 2 with the snake head scheme, one A-7 and one A-8

And yes the A-7 is that Dragon model I posted about a few weeks ago.  I really am impressed with the detailin the Airfix kit I've seen so far in this kits, there is a little flash but nothing really bad.

Clemen's  you may want to add the 1/72 Airfix A-8 to my list.

Thanks

John

BlackDog - Aw man! That is a bummer about the puppy. Fortunately, my dog and two cats are trouble free concerning the work bench. The turtles, on the other hand, are always getting up there knocking stuff over, gnawing on parts and creating general mayhem. I can't figure out just how they're getting up there. Your landing gear work is excellent. The time and effort you took on the brake lines definitely paid off.

Doug:Man , your paint work is right on. I still use masks to achieve my camo patterns but hope to get to the point that you are at now with your border work on the demarcation lines. Pre-shading is on my list of tricks for this D-9 build that I'm going to start tackling again in Jan.

Blackdog:First off, that landing gear detail is da bomb! Good attention to detail. Secondly I hear you on the doggy woes. Mine don't chew on anything anymore but are up there in age and I have to keep my eye on 'em all the time. My female dachshund is 15 and is a full time job! I'll probably post a pic of good ol scooter and sweet pea pretty soon just to give you guys a visual on the dynamic duo.

LOL... Yeah I hear ya Greg, Problem is I am starting to understand quite a bit, even though its hard to put sentences together and be able to speak properly, I can generally understand what is being said. Well she now realizes that, and being she is also able to speak Japanese, she will suddenly switch to Japanese to throw me off! LOL...

All in jest, she is really a wonderful lady and I consider myself very lucky to have such a companion in my life.

Yeah the models are like that for me too, I get to a point and its like a race horse, I see the finish line and begin to pore it on! We just have to be patient. and I find myself constantly in my head telling myself, take your time, let it dry, walk away for a bit... ha...

Take care...

Doug

Doug, thanks for continuing your blow by blow (sort of literally in this case!). And you single me out any old time, my friend. You mentioned your pressures and distance and noted the importance of going light and slow. This is my #1 problem with my airbrush. I know not to rush it but once I get started can't seem to control myself. Hopefully with more practice and experience I'll stop that!

It is continuing to fascinate me that watching this stuff be done (y'all make it look so easy) and actually trying them are two different things. First one must know what one is trying to accomplish, and that can be hard at the beginning.

BTW, I had to laugh when you mentioned your reason for learning Tagalog. I had actually wondered and turns out my guess was pretty much right. My reason is the almost the same. :) I haven't gotten scolded in Chinese yet, but time will tell. :) 

Clemens, Austrian accents are cool! Way better than my boring midwest accent!

Blackdog, thanks for your vote of confidence in me for when I take on the brake lines! If I end up anywhere near your first attempt, I'll be a happy camper.

but on the bright side my windscreen came clean of thei  but  future floor wax.

I scrolled back   but I couldn't find who told me to clean it with windex. so thank you anyways it worked just fine little more clean up to go. then try again..

AND I GET TAKEN OUT BY PUPPIE FLACK. !!!!!!!

looks like scratch building time

Nathan thank you.  the brake lines  took some time mostly fiddling with straps. and the 109 gave me a chance to try a few new things before taking a more detailed model. I had fun with it.

trying to work my up to the nicer ones in my stash

Nice detail on the gear bdog. Nice paint job on "Rosemarie" too!

No problem Joe... On the camo pattern you chose, thats going to be a job, Your just going to have to take alot of time and excersize a great deal of patience going over each color and pattern one by one. What I would do is use an average (to me 20-25 psi) pressure, thin the paint with a hot(fast dry) thinner, get up close and personal (appx 1/4 in) and start tracing each one a section at a time. Dont worry too much about a little overspray, thats what gives that soft blend of colors.Keep in mind thou, that too much will make the pattern look "muddy" and blured. I rarely ever use any sort of mask for camo unless its an early pattern like a splinter, but thats just me.

O O Greg, Tagalog... Asawa ko sa na  Pilipina... I need to know what shes spouting when shes mad at me! (LOL)

Bdog

Great job on the brake lines and the lightening holes. That adds a ton of detail to the gears.

doug..... thanks for the the paint how to. I have never pre shaded before I just mite do it now. I was thinking of a clean looking a/c and just using  pencil and some light washing. getting ready to prime so im getting close.

greg....after looking at your last build im sure that you will not have any problem doing your brake lines on the next 1. your radio wire was spot on. making it look like its under  tension is harder then it looks.

greg and ss... thank you for the kind words

all of you that posted ahead of me have given me the ambition. to step up my skills.

rigidrider.... I was buying all armor kits when I first got back into modling. so the weathering on the 109 was done like what I was reading in the self help books wich was dry brushing with lightened shades of the diferent camo in layers that was used on the plane. modeling is a hile new world now. what a great time to be a modeler. the after market and amounts of the kits is amazing.

She's looking fan-frickin-tastic, Doug!

Greg: My writing skills in English are ok-ish, but You don't want to hear me talk. I have a horrible Austrian accent...

Blackdog: Yes, I am that guy, but it's actually a full dozend of 190s (well, actually 10 and a big Zoukei-Mura Ta 152 as well as another 1/48 Eduard kit in my stash)...

Hey Doug, First, I want to thank you very much for further demonstrating your weathering technique. My intent is to attempt to sort of blend or soften my overall camo pattern. Sort of like you would do on an armor model. Your paint job is looking great. I too appreciate the play by play. 

ss are you the modler I seen way back in the post that's doing like a 1/2 dozen 190s at the same time ?

Little more progress today,,, starting to apply the colors... starting with the "blue Green" RLM84 or 99 which ever chart your using.

Greg... when I start the top coats after pre shading, I crank the pressure up to about 25-30 psi, draw the AB back to about 4 to 6 inches and lightly hit the desired area until it looks even, dont cover to rapidly or heavily or you will defeat the look your wanting to achieve. Dont forget , there is a lot more to do from this point, and every coat lightens the pre shading just a bit every pass.

Put some Grau Violet ovet the engine cover and gun bay...

Starting to apply the break up camo and green mottle, the pre shade is starting to soften alot...

Well this is all for now, Let this dry well and continue on more this week!

Take care all!

Doug

PS... Greg, I wasnt trying to single you out but you had mentioned an interest in trying to pre shade your upcoming build. Hope this helps you, and Im sure there are other methods, this one just works for me! 

Eric, Tagalog? Wow, I had to look that one up!

Ok, back on subject, sorry about the unintentional hijack.....

BDog, looking good! I like those custom made brake line standoffs, and thank for the idea to tape over my alligator clips. Why didn't I think of that? I've done it with tweezers and needle noses and forceps and everything else???? D'oh! Guess I'll be shamed into trying brake lines on the next one. :)

That kit you found and posted the pic of looks good!

Clemens, as I've mentioned before, I'd never know that English was your second language if I didn't already know.

.....ok, guess I'll head down to the bench and see what I can manage to break next...... (broke two pieces off my first resin seat within 5 minutes of removing it from the bag the other day)

Black Dog, I'm honored that you would try my method, It can be a lot of work but the effort is well worth the end results. How did you do your "G"? looks like a water wash maybe?

Thanks

Doug

ok that's it I had more but this is just inconvenient to load the pics this way.

thank you all that gave me advice and pics on how to do it. theres a few booboos but for my first im happy.

thanks guys.

Looking good, Blackdog!

I got a some bench time this weekend and I'm almost done with all the cockpits. I just have to add all the tiny PE handles and switches to the profipack 'pits. That's a task for tomorrow (or Tuesday if I get no bench time) howevew, because I simply can't work with small bits when I'm tired...

I don't have lead foil but I saved some foil from a scasarole

I drilled a hole for the line then super glue with setting  agent