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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:41 PM

 I had to drill out the lightning holes free hand on the h/b kit there I no reference

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:35 PM

well I have a chance to be on the bench this morning. im working on my first set of brake lines. im going to try to post more than 1 pick at a time if I cant plz hang in there with me....lol

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:32 PM

hey guys I know we off a different topic now. I just came across the sun bleached 109  i thought was interesting and talented. when I got back into modling about 3 yrs ago it was more about building my stash. becouse the models had become much more advanced so I tryd a few easy ones that I remembered is was  the revel 1/48  109g-6 and this is it. next I will try your  application next rigidrider. its much more convincing.

PJ....great job on the yellow 10.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, November 17, 2013 1:52 PM

Trying to learn Tagalog...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:21 PM

I'm only fluent in German (native speaker, woohoo) and in English...

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:34 AM

PJ, I'm jealous! I am fluent in no second language and would really like to be. Spanish would be excellent as there are a lot of Spanish-speaking folks here in the US. I know how to say 'Hola', and 'loco', that's about it. :)

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:14 AM

Greg

No worries, I only speak fluent Spanish and English. Just a few words here and there in Deutsche. Geeked

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:10 AM

Clemens (and PJ), I truly wish I did speak German because it would be a practical language to know, but I do not.

I know a few words, but not nearly enough to make sentences. I cheated a little to tease you. :)

Very rusty French and my Chinese is coming right along (albeit quite slowly), though.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:25 PM

Thanks again for all the positive comments. It's very nice to hear talented fellow modelers approve of one's work.

Greg

You are too kind and I'm very glad that you enjoyed my posts.  Danke mein Freund.

RRider

The 190 is shaping up very nicely and great tip on fading the decals. Great looking 109E!

Gary

Great to hear from you brother. Hope you are doing great!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:04 PM

Greg: Wait a sec. Do you speak German? Because that was perfect. Perfect spelling, correct grammar (and I know how hard German grammar must be if you are no native speaker) and you even got all the capital letters right! Oh, and the commas are all in the right place as well! Big Smile Surprise

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:46 PM

I'm sorry , I dont know why the pictures sometimes get out of order that I entered them in, but I guess you will be able to figure them out...

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:23 PM

Ja, ich wusste es war Deutsch, Clemens. Cool

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:35 PM

Looking great, Doug ol buddy!

Greg: That foreign language is German (I think you guessed that already), so I have no problems at all reading it because it is no foreign language for me Wink If anyone needs some info on anything regarding one of the 190 variants or a a particular aircraft, just let me know and I'll try to find something in this book. I'll translate the corresponding text for you as well Wink

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, November 16, 2013 2:57 PM

These two show the decals well faded and look almost as if they were sandblasted, which would well suit a Med. theater aircraft.

 

 

 

a Joe here are a few pictures of a sun bleached Bf109-E I did earlier...

This is the top coat of sand gelb with the Future applied so as not to get fingerprint oil on the flat finish...

see the inside wing panels starting to "Fade" but the panel edges are still a bit darker. And notice the decals are still like new polished lacquer...

In this one Im fading more panel work and have started doing the leading edges, but decals are still untouched, I also left a little of the original color around the cockpit to maybe suggest a repair and touchup.

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, November 16, 2013 2:42 PM

Joe R... Yes sir... Depending on the look you desire, and you know I like the war weary look, It never ceases to amaze the beautiful paint jobs and weathering but the decals look Factory Fresh, and shiny.

I do a few things to weather and fade paint like after I get the finish top coat on, I sometimes take some of the top coat paint and put a few drops of light or sky grey in it then thin more then usual, turn up the pressure about 5to 10psi then work the inner panels and leading edges, leaving the body lines and rivet lines a bit darker. After that, I take straight pale grey, and thin way down, and do the decals so as to fade them down too, when doing this step just follow the outlines and try not to stray outside them too much, a little is OK. If you so desire after that step you can thin down some more pale grey turn the pressure up to about 25 to 30 psi and mist a coat over the whole project at about 6 to 8 inches away. Just mist, dont try to cover, when it drys you will notice the diffefence.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, November 16, 2013 2:24 PM

Good to have you back Doug and as always your build is going great. I am really gonna have to try this pre-shading trick on my D-9!  

                   

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, November 16, 2013 1:32 PM

PJ, that is just amazing. The level of detail is really, really something. Hand painting, airbrushing, weathering...... astounding the way you are able to put them all together.

I have really enjoyed 'getting to know you' during this GB and your work and insight is truly inspiring. As others have said, it would be great if you could hang around, or sneak in another 190 when you can. :)

Doug, didn't realise you had been under the weather. Welcome back! The bird is looking good and please keep posing as I am becoming most interested in watching this whole pre-shading thing coming together as various builds progress.

Blackdog, thanks so much for your supportive comments, mate!

Clemens, that book looks great but it is written in some foreign language Wink Seriously, looks to be an excellent reference!

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Posted by Texgunner on Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:04 AM

Wow, Ernie, you nailed it brother!  That plane looks so fine, what a masterful job you've done!!  Thanks for sharing the pics with us.Beer

Gary


"All you mugs need to get busy building, and post pics!"

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:26 AM

Aw shucks, RRider, SSpartan, Joe Rix, Mustang,thanks for the nice words. Embarrassed

Just glad to pass along any helpful technique to better our modeling skills. I have learned a lot from reading techniques right here in this forum and this web site. I think that thanks to FSM, more modelers are becoming better in our hobby by exchanging ideas and techniques.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:11 AM

Looking grand there Doug. It is very good to have you back healthy and building. I have a question for you Doug. Did you say that you used a shade of gray in your post paint "dusting" formula? Thought I'd ask rather than spend the time going back through the GB posts.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:05 AM

Well after some minor illness and having to be away from home for about a week I finally got back and headed right for the work bench... Got a bit more done and am enjoying an OOB build again. No frills but so far so good I feel...Heres a bit more progress...

So far am amazingly good fit... Just had to add 1 small spreader just behind the pit to fill a gap , and a .010 piece of plastistruct to finish filling up, so far no putty.

Primed and ready to pre-shade...

Preshading done and we will let that set good and do some more maybe tomorrow unless my wife can find where I hid the "Honey-Do" list... 

When Life Hands You A Bucket Of Lemons...

Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, November 16, 2013 6:28 AM

Excellent job and Bravo PJ!!! Just beautiful...

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Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, November 16, 2013 6:23 AM

PJ:I've got your's on the "Wall of Fame". Thanks again buddy!

Clemens: Cool that you got a reference too! Info like that is great aint it?

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, November 16, 2013 6:09 AM

Man PJ! Wow! And I mean WOW! You pack a mean punch when it comes to model building and this is certainly no exception. I am glad that you came  to this GB and have enjoyed all the commentary and building with you. I will be putting this into the intro post today and would like to use this opportunity to invite you to hang around and possibly build another with us. Thanks PJ!

                   

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:11 AM

That's one fantastic looking 190, PJ! Everything is looking damn great and things like the gear indicators add a lot to the overall appearance! Mind if I steal some of your techniques for my 190s?

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Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, November 15, 2013 10:49 PM

Magnificently done PJ. You have really done a remarkable job on your 190. Just a nice clean build all around. Especially the detail work. I greatly appreciate you sharing your talents and skills with us. I would hope that you would stick around and build another with us. If that is indeed not the case, then what is your next project?

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, November 15, 2013 9:35 PM

I stretched some green sprue over a candle to use as the antenna wire. I tried using my nylon thread but could not get it to droop correctly. I used those multi hand thingies to hold the sprue while the CA dried

 

 

Well fellas, stick a fork in this bird cause she's done. I want to thank all of you for your kind words, comments, and assistance in detail questions. This is a very talented group of modelers...Toast

 

Here are some shots of the completed build

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Posted by blackdog62 on Friday, November 15, 2013 4:54 PM

GREG    fantastic job on your build it all looks great love that camo. I would like to try on with that pattern. not sure if I can keep that pattern the proper size. you nail'd it.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, November 15, 2013 4:47 PM

Look what I bought today:

I went to a local bookstore that is specialized on military books because I wanted to get me some books about the Thunderbolt, but I didn't find anything great. I got myself this one though:

It is the "bible" of Fw 190s. What you see in this pic is a book with 443 pages that is filled with wartime pictures of every 190 variant. there are also some plans and diagrams in there:

  

Now you're not the only one with a Censored-load of reference pics contained in a single book, Joe! Big Smile

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Posted by Greg on Friday, November 15, 2013 4:00 PM

Doug, you were certainly right indeed about this group being contagious! Thanks so much for your help, encouragement and kind words my friend.

Clemens, glad to hear it's just normal life stuff, mate.

Allen, thank you kind sir. And thanks for noticing the antenna and the tensioner, which I didn't know what it was called but it makes sense!

Gary, thank you very much!

Everybody, it's weird for me getting all this attention from you guys who actually know what you are doing! Me, I just try to remember what y'all explain to me, then attempt to do it. Smile

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