Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

SchattenSpartan

You can apply Mig washes over every clear coat as long as it isn't enamel based. I'd suggest using a gloss coat, but a satin one might work as well (and might even produce a "dirtier" finish)

Wash ok as long as over dissimilar bases.......I need a blackboard to write this 100 times.

Thank you patient Clemens.

You can apply Mig washes over every clear coat as long as it isn't enamel based. I'd suggest using a gloss coat, but a satin one might work as well (and might even produce a "dirtier" finish)

mustang1989

Mig washes are enamel based alright. I use it on my stuff.

Well, if your work is indicative of what can be accomplished with MIg washes (with the proper skills of course), now I'll HAVE to try some.

Forgive my frail memory, and save me the back-reading, you are applying the Mig washes over what sort of clear, and also would you call it a satin or gloss finish? Thank you!

I started working on the office and I like to look ahead and look things over. I'm used to the confusing Eduard armor instructions and looks like they carried it on to their planes but it's no big deal.

I'm building kit #8185 and the color reference on page 15 has me confused. The undersides of yellow 10 call for almost half the wing to be RLM81, other half to be chrome (so I suspect natural metal) the bottom of the ailerons and tail feathers RLM76. What confuses me is the fuselage bottom demarcation line for the natural metal panels and the RLM 76. Is it the panel line just in front of the round one where the 76 starts to the tail?

Mig washes are enamel based alright. I use it on my stuff.

Not too worried about the splatter, noticed under high optivisor magnification. All comments duly noted!

Thanks Clemens. And if Mig is enamel based, that surely answers my question!

Man, Joe and Nathan, I feel real bad that I did not post this as soon as I found it. I knew it was an excellent deal. I hope at some point in time I can score something for you in a more timely manner in the future.

holy cow! I had just checked ebay 2 days ago and nothing?? Well, we'll see what they end up going for...

Well............that's a wrap!!!! Thanks anyway Joe! Just when you think you've found a good deal ...POOF! Another one comes along that totally wipes the plate clean after you've already committed to the original "good deal". Its the thought that counts. Thanks again buddy!

Joe, I'm sorry I did not catch you in time as I found this on ebay late last night. Both volumes for $99.95 and free shipping.

www.ebay.com/.../231066433400

And outstanding work on the nose section and engine. gorgeous work.

Just got back from Barnes and Noble after ordering Volume 1 of Jerry Crandall's Fw190 Dora and got it for 69 bucks.(75 after tax). Everybody who we know of i.e. Squadron/ Sprue Bros. is out of stock on both volumes of this thing. The only other people I saw who had it were asking stooooopid prices like 175 and over 200 bucks for it. Anyhow B&N has it back in stock for 69 dollars. It's supposed to be a decent reference for all you Dora fans out there.

Joe (Rix): Yeah, that's a pity with your Jug. Thanks for the warning to never use Mig washes on top of Alclad!

Greg: I wasn't telling you that your 190 looks good just because of kindness. I said it because it really looks great! I think Joe's problem with the wash resulted in the Mig wash being enamel based, as well as Alclad paints. The wash (basically a lot of solvent colored with paint) just dissolved the clear coat and the underlying paint...

weathering hides a multitude of sins.

Greg

FWIW, I noticed the same (out of scale splatter) on mine too, after I'd already gloss coated it! :) So much for paying attention. :)

Greg

FWIW, I noticed the same (out of scale splatter) on mine too, after I'd already gloss coated it! :) So much for paying attention. :)

FWIW, I noticed the same (out of scale splatter) on mine too, after I'd already gloss coated it! :) So much for paying attention. :)

Greg

John, I agree, you really made that snap together kit shine! (not literally, of course :) )

Your 190 looks awesome. Didn't you have some mottling problems along the way or am I confused again? If so, heck of a re-do. Looks like you have it down pat. I am convinced I laid mine down too heavy, and everybody here is to kind to have come out and told me. Yours look great, on both.

Yikes and thanks for the warning re the CA accelerator.

   Yes I did, if you look real close at the model you can see some over sized splatter that to me was out of scale. Of course you may have to have it right in front of you.  So the next 190 I'm hoping I'll get it right.  I'm definitely going to practice more this time.

John

Nathan T

Ohh sweet for sure. Hope it ships fast. I got some pics too if you need.

Ohh sweet for sure. Hope it ships fast. I got some pics too if you need.

Nathan T

mustang1989

 

Nathan T: Thanks Nathan! I'm going to plan on installing the panels in the open position (at least that's the plan anyway!).

 

Just make sure you know how the panels are supposed to open and where the hinges are. I see lots of modelers getting this wrong on Doras and Ta152s.

Joe (Rix), sorry to hear about the P-47 disaster. Did you ever determine what is in the Mig wash that caused that to happen? Have had some interest in their products, checked their website and can't find anything about what its made of. I find it confusing that the Alclad clear was fine with the turnpenoid/oil wash, but reacted to the Mig wash. This stuff gets mind boggling.

Thanks for the link, a good one. DId you notice the bit on the first page where he mentions that some turpenoid brands might cause trouble?

John, I agree, you really made that snap together kit shine! (not literally, of course :) )

Your 190 looks awesome. Didn't you have some mottling problems along the way or am I confused again? If so, heck of a re-do. Looks like you have it down pat. I am convinced I laid mine down too heavy, and everybody here is to kind to have come out and told me. Yours look great, on both.

Yikes and thanks for the warning re the CA accelerator.

Joe (Mustang), I am in awe of your nose section. Beautiful work, kind sir..

mustang1989

 

Nathan T: Thanks Nathan! I'm going to plan on installing the panels in the open position (at least that's the plan anyway!).

 

Just make sure you know how the panels are supposed to open and where the hinges are. I see lots of modelers getting this wrong on Doras and Ta152s.

blackdog62

Very nice. How long dose it take for you to complete those types of builds ?

Doug thank you for that. Sounds like solid advise tamyia is the other brand that sells here.

Isould get to put some paint on today.

blackdog62

Very nice. How long dose it take for you to complete those types of builds ?

Very nice. How long dose it take for you to complete those types of builds ?

John: Your 190s look great! I love the mottlig effect! I agree with Eric: You can't tell that one of them is a snap-together kit.

Joe: Your Jumo looks absolutely gorgeous! Fantastic work, mate!

Jester:Thanks Eric! The end for that section is finally in sight. I think I started on this thing about a month ago!

Nathan T: Thanks Nathan! I'm going to plan on installing the panels in the open position (at least that's the plan anyway!).

Joe, Great work. That Jumo is a real gem. Are you leaving any panels hanging open on the Dora or just leaving them completely off?

John, nice work on both kits. I like the blue/white/blue jg300 band. Hope you got the canopy looking shiny again. I try to never use accelerator near clear parts, just in case.

Jester75

John, both of those 190's look great! Hard to believe one is a snap kit!!

Joe, that engine module is da bomb!

   The snap together was actually really fun to see what I could do with it. If you've ever had one of these Pegasus snap together models they are made of a very slippery plastic that at first did not want to melt when liquid cement was applied! funny how that is? it took some time and effort to get the plastic to bond with itself.  It felt like it had a layer of silicon on it even after i washed it.

John