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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 15, 2019 3:17 PM

Awesome. Hull destruction seems to be the OOD.

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Posted by crown r n7 on Thursday, August 15, 2019 4:50 PM

thank you guy's .

the boat is clear gloss coated and waiting weathering process.

  

Nick.

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, August 15, 2019 5:07 PM

That looks like an excelent solution

Steve

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Posted by mach71 on Thursday, August 15, 2019 5:38 PM

Very pretty PT boat crown!

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Posted by mach71 on Thursday, August 15, 2019 5:41 PM

GMorrison

Awesome. Hull destruction seems to be the OOD.

 

 

The order is published!

 

 

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Posted by mach71 on Thursday, August 15, 2019 5:42 PM

modelcrazy

That looks like an excelent solution

 

 

Time will tell.....

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Posted by mach71 on Thursday, August 15, 2019 8:12 PM

Things are drying now.

It was a bit messy, there will be clean up to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, August 15, 2019 10:29 PM

Looking forward to that weathering Nick.

I'm intrested to see how that truns out Mach.

I finished filling and sanding the join of the deck and hull and ready to start attaching the small bits and PE.

  

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:02 PM

as an outsider looking in , I must say how impressed I am with everyone's effort's so far , really enjoying this thread . 

steve5

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 16, 2019 7:32 AM

Mach71: A bit drastic but sometimes that's what you need. Good luck, crossing my fingers it works out. Looks great so far. 

Steve: Your usual nice work! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, August 16, 2019 8:12 AM

 

Looking good guys.  

 

modelcrazy
finished filling and sanding the join of the deck and hull and ready to start attaching the small bits and PE.

Admiral--if you would be so inclined--please share any PE processes and/or tips that you have. If easier for you, feel free to do so as you are working on it.

I have worked with PE on a limited basis and nothing like what I am stepping into with my Wisconsin build. I can see that this will require some serious patience and planning.

As for me and my project, I am sanding down the filler that I used to get rid of the dimples on the hull. I will post a few images this weekend.

Thanks.

 

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Posted by mach71 on Friday, August 16, 2019 8:36 AM

Well, Good news bad news.

 

Everything glued down well and mostly true, but the glue! it's a mess!

 

 

I started sanding and it was not as bad as I thought.

 

 

 

I got my file set out and the small triangular file made a good trench along the plastic.

 

 

Now it's putty time.

 

 

 

The putty is drying now. 

 

It's not exactly the look I was going for, but it will work I think. After all the boat herself is far from perfect!

 

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Posted by mach71 on Friday, August 16, 2019 4:18 PM

Sanding, sanding, sanding....

Lots of sanding.

 

 

 

I put a coat of primer on to see whats what.

 

 

 

Still more sanding to be done, but its working out better than I expected 24 hours ago.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 16, 2019 4:47 PM

that is really starting to look the part. Big Smile

Steve

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, August 16, 2019 5:10 PM

Some drastic work going on, but she is looking better all the time.

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Posted by mach71 on Friday, August 16, 2019 8:59 PM

Thanks guys. I'm thinking it might actually get done now!

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Posted by mach71 on Friday, August 16, 2019 9:08 PM

modelcrazy

Looking forward to that weathering Nick.

I'm intrested to see how that truns out Mach.

I finished filling and sanding the join of the deck and hull and ready to start attaching the small bits and PE.

  

 

 

Steve the Spruance is looking very nice! How did the hull go together?

Did you start the PE?

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, August 17, 2019 4:53 PM

The holes are filled, and the bars are knocked down.

Don't let the lighting fool you, the bars are all pretty much consistent in depth. I also had to repair some areas at the bow and stern where plastic didn't make it through the injection process. There was a little bit of flash here and there but nothing terrible.

I received the wood decking this week. You are right Admiral; this stuff is really thin. It is pretty amazing. They included a chain as well.

So, when I am ready, I'll need to trim this stuff out.

GM--what do you think? Stain first then cut? Or is it best to cut then stain?

That's all for now.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, August 17, 2019 5:58 PM

Bakster
So, when I am ready, I'll need to trim this stuff out.

You should just need to pop it out, but doing some trimming may help as well.

Thanks Mach, Bakster, I did start working on some of the PE while adding all those fidily bits.

The Harpoon launchers have some PE to their cradles anf the bow has a little capstan brake wheels & spray shields as well as the hawse pipe cover rails. Most of the PE in this set are for railings and radars. I thought about removing the anchor chain but did'nt want to but some AM chain. I still may though.

My current tools are a flat pair of tweezers, a thin pair and some Flexy 5K CA. Great stuff for gluing PE!

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, August 17, 2019 6:39 PM

Mach, the hull was OK, there were some seams and gaps but not inportant to me since it's going to be in a water base. Every superstructure join needed some work but not difficult.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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YouTube: Steve's Hobby Bench
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Posted by mach71 on Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:53 PM

Wow! those are small parts! Looking nice!

 

Nothing got done on the Blueback today. :-(

 

Mark

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, August 18, 2019 12:31 AM

When you say "cut", isn't the deck already almost cut through? If not, that's a new one.

I don't think it matters which comes first. But having those scraps from the turret base locations etc. is useful. If you can separate those out, it's a good opportunity to test the stains to make sure it looks the way you want it. Once you apply the stain, there's no going back!

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, August 18, 2019 11:34 AM

GMorrison

When you say "cut", isn't the deck already almost cut through? If not, that's a new one.

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I should have been clearer. Yes, it appears to be scored from the back, but when I looked at it, the piece appeared to have connection points that I need to cut through like a sprue has. Maybe I need to look at it again. With not having used this product before I don't know how deep those cuts go, and if I'll need to finish them out, or if like what Steve said, they just pop out. I am probably making a mountain out of a molehill. I will let you know what I find when I get there.

And yes about the scrap, that is the plan. That is a concern of mine that staining will make it too dark. That is why my first thought was to try using a weak paint wash. I will test the stain first.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, August 18, 2019 11:36 AM

Thanks Steve for the PE instructions. Looking good sir.

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Posted by Nino on Sunday, August 18, 2019 11:37 AM

Bakster

I received the wood decking this week. You are right Admiral; this stuff is really thin. It is pretty amazing. They included a chain as well.

So, when I am ready, I'll need to trim this stuff out.

GM--what do you think? Stain first then cut? Or is it best to cut then stain?

 

  Don't forget... don't use a water-based stain.

It's not a Starship, "WARP" speed not indicated.

 

Hey, This is a great "spool of threads", all in one spot. Thanks All!

   Jim.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, August 18, 2019 11:46 AM

Nino

 

 
Bakster

I received the wood decking this week. You are right Admiral; this stuff is really thin. It is pretty amazing. They included a chain as well.

So, when I am ready, I'll need to trim this stuff out.

GM--what do you think? Stain first then cut? Or is it best to cut then stain?

 

 

 

  Don't forget... don't use a water-based stain.

 

It's not a Starship, "WARP" speed not indicated.

 

Hey, This is a great "spool of threads", all in one spot. Thanks All!

   Jim.

 

 

Hey jim, great to have you stop in! Thanks for that note because that was not in the forefront of my mind, and I could have easily made that mistake. And why is water based not a good idea on this? I am not too clear on that. Warpage?

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, August 18, 2019 12:11 PM

Yes, warpage. It can be a bit of a problem with spirit based stain too, so go lightly.

Scratchbuilding with thin wood shhets, it's good practice to stain both sides to cancel out the shrinkage, but when wood decks have adhesive already applied, that's clearly not possible.

Just to repeat what I've suggested before elsewhere, do not plan to have the deck lay flat by use of clamps and strength of adhesive. It will buckle up over time. Try to get the deck to kay flat of it's own accord before final attachment.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, August 18, 2019 12:40 PM

I hadn't thought of warpage, I've never attempted to stain them.

Bakster, yes you can "pop" it out but like you noted, there are small attachments to the "sprue" sheet. These points are very thin and will just break off. Cutting them should be very easy. The glue backing is VERY sticky but will lose some stickiness with finger oils. I have read that one way to apply the deck is with a little bit of water on the deck. The idea is you can adjust the wood deck properly, let it sit until the water dries and then press it down to seat it. I have never tried it because I was afraid that would ruin it, but I read that it works. Huh?

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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YouTube: Steve's Hobby Bench
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Posted by mach71 on Sunday, August 18, 2019 1:13 PM

Bakster that decking really looks great! It should really make the ship.

 

As for me, just some sanding and I put down some water thined putty. Hopefully it will fill the tiny divots that don't seem to want to fill.

 

 

 

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Posted by Nino on Sunday, August 18, 2019 1:21 PM

mach71,

  I am really impressed with he way you got that thin evergreen sheet to glue down on a Hull that curves in 2 directions.  Nice Work!

 I would have bungled it with bulges, bumps, and creases trying to get it to follow that curved Skipjack hull.

I recommend you be on the  look-out for an additional Skipjack kit. You are doing wonders with this one and there are plenty more "things" you can try with the Aurora Skipjack hull... Even the USS Skipjack.

     Nino.

 

 P.S.  I see you left out the Nuke power plant.  It's a Static model for sure now.

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