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  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:25 AM

I'd go for CF decal, that's what I've been using om my RCV:s and I think it looks very convincing.

best regards
Joel

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Posted by wolfpac on Monday, February 27, 2006 9:00 PM
HELP!!!!!

Anyone who has built the RC211V......

How did you guys paint the heel gaurd that is attached to the frame?  Judging from pics I have seen of the bike it is not CF (although I want to paint it that way, I think it makes it stand out).  I'm looking at the model now wondering how the hell I'm going to do it and I've come up short.

Thanks for any help!!!!!

Erik
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Posted by wolfpac on Monday, February 27, 2006 11:44 AM

I ordered the sanding stix, are these similiar to the micro mesh sticks?

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Posted by SeaBee on Monday, February 27, 2006 12:46 AM
Not much progress as such on the building side of things. At least completed the decalling of the cowls and gave it an initial clearcoat whilst braai-ing (ask no questions, time is precious commodity! Wink [;)]) Came out okayish. Next step is to try out my new SMS micromesh sticks and then another layer... then some more  sanding and polishing. Can't wait to try them out, arrived last weekend, courtesy of the friendly postman. First time I have such fine sanding tools to my disposal.
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Posted by archangel571 on Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:48 PM

 Yamafreak72 wrote:
Future floor polish has always worked wonders for me.  I've hard that it turns yellow after a time however.  Anybody else heard that?

yea, heard it on other forums.  They said no direct sun light should do the trick to keep it from yellowing.

-=Ryan=- Too many kits... so little free time. MadDocWorks
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Posted by Yamafreak72 on Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:42 PM
Future floor polish has always worked wonders for me.  I've hard that it turns yellow after a time however.  Anybody else heard that?
Status: Nastro Azzurro NSR 500- finis!
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Posted by wolfpac on Saturday, February 25, 2006 11:08 AM
Here are a couple of pics prior to the decal application and the full painting of the rear cowl.





I beleive that the Micro Sol and Set dulls the paints shine and definition.  Any tips to bring it back after decal application?
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Posted by wolfpac on Friday, February 24, 2006 1:38 PM

Thank you for the compliments!

The painting was pretty straight forward, there is a masking template sheet for the fairings that you cut out and apply.  I had a very difficult time with the rear cowl masking template and ended up using blue painters tape instead (I couldn't get the templated mask to line up right and ended destroying them).  The trick to this was I hard to assemble the upper and lower fairings and decal them up to see where the stripe started so I could mask off the rear properly.  The biggest pain for me was the rear cowl stripe decals.  I ended up using an extreme amount of Micro Sol to take out the air bubbles and wrinkles, and for some reason the Honda wings on the tank were no laying flat either.  The Nastro decals on the upper fairings prooved to be difficult as well, I ended up dunking the entire upper in warm water on several occassion (with the decals applied) in efforts to line them up correctly.  Unlike the Camel and Repsol RC211's the Nastro fairing decal is one peice, which is why it was so difficult in getting a proper fit. 

All in all I have to say it was the most difficult build I have done, and I am rather pleased with the results.  Down the road I may attempt to build it again in attempts to get a higher definition paint job to it.  The Tamiya yellow (bottle, not spray paint) was difficult to get an even fill on and did not seem to shine very well even after coats of clear.

Thanks again for the compliments, and if I missed any questions I'll post up another response. 

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Posted by shaun68 on Friday, February 24, 2006 3:27 AM
Yeah, I must admit I never really had a lot of probs with mine except lining up the Nastro lettering between the upper & lower fairing. I can't see where I went wrong as the decal is sitting in exactly the right spot it should be, so.... For display purposes I'll leave the lower cowl off so the engine can be seen. No-one will ever know.
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Posted by joelrydh on Friday, February 24, 2006 3:27 AM

I think it's fabulous! I long to do it actually and I also await the 2001 Rossi bike transkits to enter the market, that Pacific GP livery is a real stunner

Joel - who has put modelling aside for a couple of days to become the champ of MotoGP 3.

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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, February 24, 2006 2:05 AM
Joel, I did that one years ago when it came out. It looks much worse than it is! Think there's a template included for the gunmetal (not sure, though) and the rest was plain sailing. Much more decalling than painting, so it's very manageable. Be interesting to hear Erik's comments on the painting, having gone through it recently.

Decalling went well in my case, only hassle is the Nastro Azzuro wording on the front cowling, which took some time to get to look right and properly alligned.

But it's a great scheme, hey... Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by joelrydh on Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:06 AM

Erik (Wolfpac): GREAT job on that Nastro Azzurro bike!!! As a few of the others have pointed out there are some detailing to do better but the livery is really well done. That is what kept me from trying this build, the cowling paint and decal work seems like a real hazzle. How did you find that? Any heads-ups for us others?

Again, well done!

/Joel

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Posted by shaun68 on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:52 AM
Absolute bang-up job wolfpac. I ended up doing this kit after I had done Doohan's last championship bike as a farewell pressie for my old boss a few years ago. Now I'm hooked. Hooked I tell you. At the time I was convinced this is what Tamiya do best - despite their really good WRC kits. And now, I still share that sentiment. They take a bit of time & effort, but geez they bring a smile to your face when you start piecing everyting together. 
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Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:52 AM
*slaps himself behind the ear*

Why did I not think of that?! Censored [censored] Like you, I use that black pen for the auto's... Why I haven't thought of using the red one yet, I won't know.
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Posted by shaun68 on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:43 AM
Hey dudes. For what it's worth I stumbled across the best thing for doing that Brembo lettering in red. I happened to be at a newsagent the other day looking for a FINE black pen to scribe in all sorts of things on my WRC's, & came across a red pen in 0.05 nib thickness. PERFECT The brand is Millenium. It is a pigment ink which is acid free, light fast, waterproof, & fade proof. The nib size fits an absolute dream into the letters on the caliper.
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Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:58 AM
Well... so much for planning. Sorry Joel, still no pics! Blush [:I] Will explain.

Saturday was a pretty hectic day, planned to do some building (and happy snapping!) on Sunday. After a quick data migration on Sat evening onto news disks we recently installed... Did I allready say "So much for planning"? I only got back at 23:30 Sunday eve! And ever since, we've had electricity issues in the area I stay, causing us to live without it every so often... Which sort of makes it difficult to build, esp since it's allready almost dark by the time I get home from work. Then when we do get some electricity, we run around trying to sterilize the baby's bottles, boiling kettles for coffee and tea (very important!) and the likes...

Will update once I've done something constructive again. Hopefully with pics! Wink [;)]
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Posted by wolfpac on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:57 PM
 Yamafreak72 wrote:
Nice job, Wolfpac!Thumbs Up [tup] One thing I do and also think would set yours off nicely is to put a tiny drop of chrome silver on the molded-on fasteners that attach the "belly" cowl on the real bike.  On the real thing, they're quick-detach screws made of either stainless steel or titanium. Also, there may be some around the windscreen, I can't remember, it's been about three years since I did an NSR, and nowhere nearly as nice as yours. 


Thanks for the tips and compliments.  The silver for the fasteners is a great idea, that's what I love about this forum.

I am going to cheat with the Brembo logos, I order the decal set from Dexter.  I figured if they turn out crappy, I only wasted $6. 

I have a tendancy to start a build and stop about halfway through and start another one.  I actually first started on the frame and powerplant for this one about 2 months ago.  Put it down and picked up the Ducati, put it down and picked up the YZR's.  The only reason I prefer to do it this way is because I get kind of burnt out working on the same model.  Right  now I have n RC211 that I'm working on (and documenting in the auto's section) that I have temporarily lost interest in.  I hope to be back in full swing with it in about a week.

Thank you again for the compliments and tips.  This site and the people on here are a really big help and inspiration.

Erik
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Posted by archangel571 on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:37 AM

wow that IS a sweet looking NSR500, wolfpac.  are you like rolling out a bike every week. 

only one thing i'd noticed, do those brembo letterings need to be picked out?  and the carbon look decal on the bottom "passenger" side muffler, the smaller piece in the back half is slightly mis-aligned from the larger on, judging by the bolts, but oh well that really cant be changed anyways.

-=Ryan=- Too many kits... so little free time. MadDocWorks
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Posted by Yamafreak72 on Monday, February 20, 2006 10:39 PM
Nice job, Wolfpac!Thumbs Up [tup] One thing I do and also think would set yours off nicely is to put a tiny drop of chrome silver on the molded-on fasteners that attach the "belly" cowl on the real bike.  On the real thing, they're quick-detach screws made of either stainless steel or titanium. Also, there may be some around the windscreen, I can't remember, it's been about three years since I did an NSR, and nowhere nearly as nice as yours. 
Status: Nastro Azzurro NSR 500- finis!
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Posted by wolfpac on Monday, February 20, 2006 8:48 PM
Tire decals and exhaust hanger and this one's done.

 

Hands were al little shakey taking the pic
 

 

 


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Posted by nick31 on Friday, February 17, 2006 9:56 AM

Hi all,

I know a lot of you guys on here are big race fans, so I thought Id just tell you about this, if you havent come it across it yet:


http://www.motoprogs.com

Its an impressive collection of race programmes, and the guy that runs it is a sound bloke. Anyone with any programmes they dont want anymore might like to check out the site.


Thought Id give it a mention.

Cheers.

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Posted by joelrydh on Friday, February 17, 2006 4:13 AM

Don't let me get on your back SeaBee. See to that you have a pleassant weekend with your family. Photos of models are very subsidiar to that.

/Joel

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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, February 17, 2006 2:55 AM
At least you're not demanding at all... Wink [;)]

Hey, I'd love to be able to put her down - it implies I'm at home to have picked her up in the first place... Sigh [sigh] No, seriously, I will try to take some progress pics this weekend. We have nice and sunny weather, so it should not be a problem.
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Posted by joelrydh on Friday, February 17, 2006 2:41 AM

 SeaBee wrote:

Pictures?! You want pictures? Where am I supposed to get time for pictures if I hardly get time for building! Big Smile [:D]

YES, we want pictures!!! Big Smile [:D]
/Joel
Now put that baby down and pull out that camera and a tripod!

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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, February 17, 2006 1:26 AM
 joelrydh wrote:

Great to hear that SeaBee, glad to help you out. Now, give us some pictures Big Smile [:D]

/Joel



Pictures?! You want pictures? Where am I supposed to get time for pictures if I hardly get time for building! Big Smile [:D]

No, I'll try and take some this weekend. Installed the front fork set yesterday. Man, that thing was worth it, think I'm going to try it on the other models where it's available. However, I made the brakes different to instructions. From what I could see, the 05 bike (at least) had a much more silvery brake. Gave it X31 (as prescribed) but then the drybrushing after the Brembo painting was done in X32, to give it a quite nice almost-silver finish.

Still lots to do, will see how much can be done over the weekend.
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Posted by wolfpac on Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:30 PM
 joelrydh wrote:

 SeaBee wrote:

Joel, just to confirm, that stunt worked! Fila is no more and I added the new decals. Actually looks much neater painted than decalled, since I had the odd tiiiny red stripe at places between the decals' coming together down at the bottom of the cowl. (Would not have been visible, but still...) Thanks mate!

Great to hear that SeaBee, glad to help you out. Now, give us some pictures Big Smile [:D]

Shayne, nice progress. Would be fun to se some pics of that KR bike, how about that?

Erik, did you get my PM?

/Joel



Yes I did thank you!
I also sent a return PM to that one, not sure if it made it to you though.
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Posted by joelrydh on Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:11 PM

 SeaBee wrote:

Joel, just to confirm, that stunt worked! Fila is no more and I added the new decals. Actually looks much neater painted than decalled, since I had the odd tiiiny red stripe at places between the decals' coming together down at the bottom of the cowl. (Would not have been visible, but still...) Thanks mate!

Great to hear that SeaBee, glad to help you out. Now, give us some pictures Big Smile [:D]

Shayne, nice progress. Would be fun to se some pics of that KR bike, how about that?

Erik, did you get my PM?

/Joel

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Posted by joelrydh on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 1:38 AM

Great job, splitting the side decal up. It's not even noticable on this picture.

/Joel

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 13, 2006 8:26 AM

Joel, for the most part they were fine, had a problem with crinkles on one decal but hopefully the clear will "cover the msitake"Wink [;)] I have taken to cutting the big side decals up into smaller portions in this case it was easy as I did the side panels in five seperate parts as it is more manageable

Andrew

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Posted by joelrydh on Monday, February 13, 2006 7:01 AM

Thanks guys, for all your warm and friendly compliments! I will try to finish off the Télefonica RCV as well before this GB finishes. Never thought I would be that close finishing off 5 kits during one GB...

Andrew: The decals are Museum Collection ones and was re-issued a couple of years ago when I got them from HLJ. Haven't seen them around lately though...
How was your Télefonica decals to work with by the way. Looks really good.

/Joel

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