Moto GP group build '05

shayne wright

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December 2002

Posted by shayne wright on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 4:50 AM

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 4:28 AM

Daniel, tried to follow your link but the URL refers me back to original site but could not find the book refered to

Andrew

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 4:09 AM

Joel Please can you explain a painting technique you use for painting, which I saw on your web site. I noticed that you spray one colour, put on the decals and then spray the last colour. When you mask is there not a risk that the decals will come off with the tape? Sounds risky, however, interesting. I normally paint, mask, paint again and decal last but having a decal in place will make masking easer I think?

Andrew

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pingtang

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April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:51 AM

Andrew- Have a look at this page. It is a scan of a book I found on the http://www.1999.co.jp site. It's a bit hard to see much of the detail, but it might be helpful.

http://www.1999.co.jp/asp/kuwashiku_e.asp?url=http://www.1999.co.jp/dbimages/user/hobby/itbig/10042631a.jpg&ca=20&na=10042631&no=1

Joel - They are a couple of nice looking bikes. Should look great.

-Daniel

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:52 AM

Joel thanks a lot for the photos. I managed to download from your site and the other references given. M1 parts all cleaned up, still busy with PE parts, hoping to spray primer coats of paint this weekend.

Does anyone have a photo of the naked front end, i.e of the instrument culster area for the Yamaha M1 04?

Andrew

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 27, 2005 3:09 AM

As I am stupid I couldn't keep my fingers from the two kits that I figured would go into the GB AFTER I have finished the RCV's... Started preping the bodywork and primed the wheels for the Kanemoto bike as they will be white. It's nice to be back at some NSR's for a change.
Thought I'd post images of the bikes for anyone who haven't seen them before. I've spent loads of time to find ref pics for the Lucky Strike bike without success so the pic posted is a from another modellers work.

Kocinski Kanemoto NSR500 '99

Itoh Lucky Strike NSR '99

best regards
Joel

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 27, 2005 2:54 AM

Andrew - Did you check my ref pics page? Not so many pics of the West Livery but a large bunch of the ´02 Repsol RCV where you can find a lot of inspiration.

http://www.onetwelvth.com/en/tips/referens/index.htm (click rc211v - 02)
best regards
Joel

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:23 AM

Shayne thanks for the links will try and download them over the week end
SeaBee have downloaded the picks for Joel's site thanks for the tip
The S27 WEST decal sheet arrived today in the mail so I can not wait to get started, hopefull this week-end

Thanks for all the help
Andrew

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:19 AM

Andrew That's about as cheap as you'll find the spriderman decals. You've gotta remember that $35 is australian dollars. Might work out cheaper in your national currency. The decals are worth it but, they look really nice on the sheet. Can't wait to start applying some.

If you go to http://moto.racing-live.com/en/ there is some pics of the West RC211V from '02. If you click on the Photos/grand prix link in the left side menu. Then choose grand prix 2002 on the right. Any of the last 4 or 5 races will have some pics of Barros on the RC211V.

-Daniel

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SeaBee

Member since
March 2004
From: Paarl, South Africa

Posted by SeaBee on Friday, June 24, 2005 6:30 AM

Also check out Joel's site for some pics on a built Baros bike...

Had a look around and, yes, those Spidey decals have a steep price everywhere!

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shayne wright

Member since
December 2002

Posted by shayne wright on Friday, June 24, 2005 6:10 AM

Andrew: follow this link http://motogp.tiscali.com/en/motogp/riders.htm?menu=riders
click on Alex Barros as it's his bike that had the WEST sponsership on it Loris's bike was still the 500nsr,then click on mutlimedia then /2002/motogp/any of the last 4-5 races /pictures. There are some some good shot of the bike in ther e any problems give us a yell
Shayne

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shayne wright

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December 2002

Posted by shayne wright on Friday, June 24, 2005 5:13 AM

try mediamix http://www.mediamixhobby.com.sg/catalog/index.php or
http://www.detailanddesigninscale.com/

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 24, 2005 2:33 AM

Can anyone give me a contact for the Renaissance Spiderman decals? I tried Ragged Edge Design but the $35.00 price tag is a bit steep for me, is this the only supplier? I like the stocking idea for replicating the carbon effect since I have not had much success so I just use X18 but will give it another go. Does anyone have some photos of the West Honda RC211V I am short on reference for this bike?

Thanks for the help

Andrew

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:47 AM

Nylon stocking like Pingtang mentions works good but I think the mesh technique is better. It doesn't have to be from a plastic kit though...just go find some really fine mosqito (?) net and it will be fine.
/JOel

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:07 AM

I've heard stocking material is good for that. Haven't tried it myself, but I don't see why it shouldn't work. It'd probably be easier to stretch over the part too. Might give it a go one day, maybe on this build. I'll let you know how it goes.

-Daniel

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archangel571

Member since
June 2005
From: NJ 07073

Posted by archangel571 on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:06 AM

don't have a car kit that comes with grilles yet... didn't start the whole rally car collection at all. most of my cars are diecasts. oh well, just try to get around the idea of buying carbon fiber decals. they are just way too overpriced for what they are. haha this is coming out the mouth of an idiot who just spent the past 2 hours on ebay and bought around 20 kits of 1/35 Dragon WWII figures.

-=Ryan=- Too many kits... so little free time. MadDocWorks

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SeaBee

Member since
March 2004
From: Paarl, South Africa

Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:16 AM

The ones usually coming with auto models work fine. I have a full compliment of one armor kit in the cupboard and can't remember the mesh size!

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archangel571

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June 2005
From: NJ 07073

Posted by archangel571 on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:07 PM

hey guys, anyone know how fine the mesh should be if i want to use that method to paint the carbon kevlar effects on the bikes like those from the Tamiya catalogue? i have a mesh from a 1/35 sdkfz 222 and the old M60A3, but i think those holes are generally too big compared to the pictures.

-=Ryan=- Too many kits... so little free time. MadDocWorks

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:21 AM

I'd keep them if I was you. You never know when you'll need another set. I've stuffed a few decals before and wished I had a spare set. I'll take em if you want to give them away mate, but give them to someone who really needs them if you don't want them.

-Daniel

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shayne wright

Member since
December 2002

Posted by shayne wright on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:49 AM

Joel- i plan on using Valancia kit not much changed only a few minor adjustments to do on cowling a few different decals to apply which are quite noticeable(Showa decal on swing /and of course the number 3)
havefilledin gaps on swing arm and frame today
p.s. anbody want spare decals for Rossi's Valancia ride?

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:16 AM

Shayne - How are you planning to go about the conversions to replicate the ´05 RCV?
/Joel

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pingtang

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April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:27 AM

I need to get some of the white stuff before I start my build too. Can't get any around here, so I'll have to wait til I can get to a better hobby shop.........

Andrew - Those Studio 27 West decals really are very nice. Some of the best decals I've ever used. I hope the Renaissance Spiderman decals are nice, cause that's gonna be a tricky job if they aren't co-operative. Tamiya grey surface primer should do the trick as a metal primer.

-Daniel

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archangel571

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June 2005
From: NJ 07073

Posted by archangel571 on Monday, June 20, 2005 12:32 PM

i know the tamiya grey primer is used for both metal and plastic... as for white, i've been looking for them n they are still OUT OF STOCK at so many places.

-=Ryan=- Too many kits... so little free time. MadDocWorks

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 20, 2005 9:04 AM

Thanks SeaBee cannot wait to get started. I am preparing the M1 now and concentrating on the M1 S27 parts. I do not have the "Metal Primer" but will the white Tamiya surface primer be okay?

I will be in Mozambique rest of this week so will catch up again next week

Andrew

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SeaBee

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March 2004
From: Paarl, South Africa

Posted by SeaBee on Monday, June 20, 2005 7:51 AM

Andrew, I missed your post (timing issues...) Those S27 West decals are the most lovely things I have yet gotten hold of. Looks tricky, but absolutely flies onto the right places! Do enjoy...

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 20, 2005 7:28 AM

Ok, now you all got me thinking as well. What shall it be, what shall it be...?
First I will finish off the three RCV's I started in the RCV Group build. But they are almost finished so I must have something more to do.
I've decided to go back a few years to step away from the RCV mania of the past year.
My list will therefor be topped with the Kanemoto Honda NSR of John Kocinski from 1999 GP500 and the Lucky Strike Honda NSR from the same year ridden by Shinichi Itoh. Itoh rode the bike with wild card in Japaneese GP.
List turns out to be like this;

Camel Honda RC211V '03 (Biaggi 32 version from the qualifying round of the Dutch GP)
Pramac Honda RC211V '03 (Tamada)
Teléfonica Movistar Honda RC211V '03 (Katoh)
Kanemoto Racing Honda NSR500 ´99 (Kocinski)
Lucky Strike Honda NSR500 ´99 (Itoh)

Long list but remember the first three are as good as done.
/Joel

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 20, 2005 7:11 AM

Count me in for a Gauloises M-1. Doing Rossi's bike.

Out of the Box apart from the Tabu Decals and the Tamiya Grade up parts for the front forks/camera etc. And of course the odd bit of CF decaling.

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SeaBee

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March 2004
From: Paarl, South Africa

Posted by SeaBee on Monday, June 20, 2005 5:59 AM

Okay, so my weekend got me nowhere in this department! I am still contemplating... But at this stage it might very well be an slightly unconvensional (call it a tribute to...) Rossi RC211V.

Otherwise it will be a "normal" '03 RC211V with the S27 detail kit...

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 20, 2005 5:58 AM

I am building the Fortuna M1 ‘04 number 33 of Melandri with the Studio 27 PE parts and I am hoping at least make a start on a WEST RC211V ’02 with Studio 27 decals and PE parts

Andrew

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pingtang

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April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Monday, June 20, 2005 2:26 AM

Glad you found her mate. But then again, it's not like she's hard to find..... Wink [;)]

-Daniel

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