WWII Carrier Aircraft Design GB (Starts Now -- Ends November 30, 2006)

Anyone can post pictures here. Your more then Welcome to post picture here at anytime that relates to the topic or something really funny.It would awesome if Jay could post them on here. I’m interested in seeing some of your work, I think I’ve had before. Didn’t you post some picture of your finish models on the aircraft section awhile back? It would be great if I could see them again

Raudel, yes I can post it, I have a photobucket account so if you send me your image, I'll post it once I get it.

I got Raudel's image. Great Detail Raudel! Get some paint on it and take more pics soon!

Look nice so far Raudel, keep us updated

BTW That's very nice of you Jay to post his picturesto share w/ us all.

QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeRugby In regards to Kremps remember this...just cause you have never seen a million dollars or a baby pidgeon does not mean that they do not exist! The same applies to her...

ok this has bothered me since you posted it joe... I even tried self-hypnosis to try to remember if I'd ever seen a baby pigeon.. I'll see one yet... I'll try to take pics for yall!

hmmm.... maybe I could build one... scratch built out of foam and feathers... I just need reference... say.. do ya know where Pigeons roost?

Hey guys ¿what's up?

Thanks wooverstone for letting me post the pic and thanks a lot Jay, for posting it for me
Well, i'll try to do some comments about the work done, but first, you'll have to forgive my inacurate English with the use of some, maybe innapropiate terms

I've found the kit cockpit kinda lacking of details, cause, instead of having the side consoles like in the real plane, it have two side panels with very poor relief details
So, surfing the net around, looking for some Hellcat cockpit pics, to improve my hellcat cockpit details, i found Rodney Williams "Pictorial Essay on how to build a 1/32 F6F-3 Hellcat" with tremendous cockpit details in an awesome piece of work
I had some 050mm Styrene pieces and use them for making the consoles and a piece of 2mm Styrene worked for making the engine control quadrant and for the quadrant levers, i used Tooth brush ¿hair?, gluing all in place with super glue, The port side console it's made with the same 050mm styrene and with some of the relief details, removed from the side panels and gluing them to the styrene
I use also some 014mm aluminium sheets, to simulate the switches quadrants on the consoles and to add some details to the cockpit floor
I still will add couple more details to the cockpit and then, when i get the interior green paint, i'll paint it and then "whash" it
I wanted to work on the rudder pedals, but an X-acto knife and a piece of sand paper glued to a piece of wood, are not enough tools to do a jo like that

I definetly have to focus on saving cash over a year, to ask my friend to buy me a dremel moto-tool

Well guys, hope you got an overall idea, as my English really sucks

As soon as i get a digital camera, i'll take more pics

Best Regards & Happy Modeling

Raudel

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 Originally posted by JoeRugby In regards to Kremps remember this...just cause you have never seen a million dollars or a baby pidgeon does not mean that they do not exist! The same applies to her... Jeezzzz poor Kremps I use to have messenger pigeons in my place and if she looks like a baby pigeon, she's ugly as hell Reply Edit Anonymous Member since November 2005 Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 6:08 AM Raudel Your English is fine mate,i have no trouble understanding at all, and goodluck with the Hellcat build it's looking really good...I built the Hasegawa 1/48 Hellcat in January and liked it so much i decided to buy another but this time with the Eduard PE set and Decals from Eagle Strike to give me a machine from VF 27.... Reply Edit arki30 Member since February 2004 From: Second City Posted by arki30 on Thursday, November 3, 2005 1:44 AM <sigh> Before this Kremps thing takes off again, please see my earlier comments about it here: http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47820 I do really hate to be the guy peeing in the pool. I appreciate good camaderie on the forum as much as everyone else, but not this Kremps thing. Let it go. It's kicked the bucket. It has ceased to be. It is an ex-joke. Building Now: 1/48 Academy Bf-109G6 - 100% 1/48 Tamiya F4U-1A - 5% Upcoming: 1/48 Revell F-14D Reply KJ200 Member since July 2003 From: Bicester, England Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, November 3, 2005 2:18 AM ArkiEveryone's welcome to their own opinion. This is Wooverstone's GB, and he can set the rules. Just my tuppence worth. Karl Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF Reply Anonymous Member since November 2005 Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 3, 2005 3:05 AM Karl i agree and furthermore i'd like to add that during the BoB GB, Midway and the NA GB it wasn't post after post of Kremp talk, The Na GB alone had 18 finished models which speaks for itself........... However if this is going to be a problem then i myself will not mention the Old Girl again and stick strickly to modeling because i'm not going to drop out of this GB and i don't want to be responsible for Arki30 dropping out......... Now having said that I'd like to ask whether or not any of you fellows has an idea which of the 2 Swordfish actually dropped the torpedo which jammed the Bismarks rudder......... Reply Edit wooverstone8 Member since December 2003 From: Olympia, WA Posted by wooverstone8 on Thursday, November 3, 2005 1:37 PM We did have this discussion, I forgot. Well, I don’t want anyone to leave this GB and also a huge distraction (W/Kremps)may result in poor turn out in finish models for this GB, If that were to happen there would be almost purpose for this build then. Will have to ask Kremps to leave politely. Sorry Kremps… Reply arki30 Member since February 2004 From: Second City Posted by arki30 on Thursday, November 3, 2005 2:51 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200 ArkiEveryone's welcome to their own opinion. This is Wooverstone's GB, and he can set the rules. Just my tuppence worth. Karl I couldn't agree more. Which is why I offered to bow out the first time instead of being the guy bitchin and moanin through the build. In hindsight perhaps I was a bit passive-aggressive about the whole thing. My apologies to Wooverstone and everyone else. I have no desire to impose my set of rules or views on anyone as this is a public forum and an enjoyable one at that. But, that doesn't change my opinion about this running gag called Kremps. It's not funny anymore. It was for several pages. Several GB's and pages upon pages later it's not. Anyway, do what you want. I've expressed my opinion, but I refuse to be the guy who ruins anyone's fun. I'm not dropping out of this thing even if it turns out to be a Kremps feista. Model on Building Now: 1/48 Academy Bf-109G6 - 100% 1/48 Tamiya F4U-1A - 5% Upcoming: 1/48 Revell F-14D Reply KJ200 Member since July 2003 From: Bicester, England Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, November 3, 2005 3:21 PM Roll on the 1st of March then, when the modelling begins. Obviously I haven't a clue what I'm going to build yet. Karl Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF Reply wooverstone8 Member since December 2003 From: Olympia, WA Posted by wooverstone8 on Thursday, November 3, 2005 4:29 PM LOL I’m glad I didn’t start with original begin date-- April 15th 05 As for me, I have absolutely no idea what I’m going to build yet… But I have many ideas Reply tho9900 Member since July 2004 From: SETX. USA Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, November 3, 2005 5:41 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by arki30 Anyway, do what you want. I've expressed my opinion, but I refuse to be the guy who ruins anyone's fun. I'm not dropping out of this thing even if it turns out to be a Kremps feista. Cool... that's big of you Arki. I've been quiet on the Kremps thing out of defference to you, and in retrospect maybe I should have said something to my comrades as they came in late. But I think we can all get along and have a fun build. As you've seen in addition of the "other" references there's been a lot of info sharing going on. I'd like to see all that continue and not have you drop out. as you said.. Model on!!!! ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it! Reply arki30 Member since February 2004 From: Second City Posted by arki30 on Thursday, November 3, 2005 6:28 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 QUOTE: Originally posted by arki30 Anyway, do what you want. I've expressed my opinion, but I refuse to be the guy who ruins anyone's fun. I'm not dropping out of this thing even if it turns out to be a Kremps feista. Cool... that's big of you Arki. I've been quiet on the Kremps thing out of defference to you, and in retrospect maybe I should have said something to my comrades as they came in late. But I think we can all get along and have a fun build. As you've seen in addition of the "other" references there's been a lot of info sharing going on. I'd like to see all that continue and not have you drop out. as you said.. Model on!!!! No problem, I know when to punt. Building Now: 1/48 Academy Bf-109G6 - 100% 1/48 Tamiya F4U-1A - 5% Upcoming: 1/48 Revell F-14D Reply Anonymous Member since November 2005 Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 4, 2005 10:04 AM Hey guys As far as i may see, this "kremps" issue may be unconfortable and have nothing to do with modeling So i think that, still when the "building" will not start untill the 1st of March, there's a lot of research and debate to do untill then and that's also "Modeling" I've droped in this topic, cause i knew i would find a great deal in knowledge, expirience and of course, friends, and also because the debate will represent a huge deal in learning from all of you I know that i can surf the net, by myself, looking for info, to learn more about this "carrier planes subject", but it's far far better to "cath waves" with the companion of a band of friends and learn from theire experiene So, as proposition; lets "Model on" as arki30 said before Best Regards & Happy Modeling Raudel Reply Edit jboutin Member since December 2004 From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83 Posted by jboutin on Friday, November 4, 2005 1:15 PM Well said Raudel. In the words of arki30 -Model on! I am really looking forward to this build. JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 - Reply arki30 Member since February 2004 From: Second City Posted by arki30 on Sunday, November 6, 2005 7:57 PM Is it March yet? Man, it's never gonna get here.... Building Now: 1/48 Academy Bf-109G6 - 100% 1/48 Tamiya F4U-1A - 5% Upcoming: 1/48 Revell F-14D Reply pingtang Member since April 2003 From: NSW, Australia Posted by pingtang on Sunday, November 6, 2005 10:34 PM What's going on fellas. I haven't checked in on this GB for a while. Looks like we've got a good bunch of modellers involved. Shame it all doesn't start for so long. I've got a Acc Min TBM-3 Avenger brewing at the moment, so I might post some pics of it here if it's alright with everyone (this seems like a more appropriate place for Avenger pics than the Battle for Germany thread). Okay, now a little activity for everyone to get some interesting debate going...... What do you think is the best looking carrier based aircraft from WW2? And, if you can, post the pic you think best shows off that aircrafts beauty. I wanna see some nice pics...... And, one more thing. HAs anyone on here ever seen a TBM-3 Avenger with the tri-colour scheme, yellow cowl band and checker patterns on the rudder? I've never seen the yellow and checkers together on an aircraft, but have seen them seperately. Could look cool. -Daniel Reply jboutin Member since December 2004 From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83 Posted by jboutin on Monday, November 7, 2005 10:01 AM Daniel, good question, I think it might have to be the Zero, very graceful and elegant. Not like the angular and brutish looking american aircraft. Not to say I don't like the American aircraft but I think the Zero just looks nicest. The Seafire would have to be a close second, all spitfires look beautiful! Which reminds me, anyone doing a Japanese Carrier aircraft? I don't think I saw anyone on the first page. I'm just finishing a zero for the Pearl Harbour GB so I don't realy feel like building anouther. JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 - Reply wooverstone8 Member since December 2003 From: Olympia, WA Posted by wooverstone8 on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 8:01 PM  pingtang wrote: Okay, now a little activity for everyone to get some interesting debate going...... What do you think is the best looking carrier based aircraft from WW2? And, if you can, post the pic you think best shows off that aircrafts beauty. I wanna see some nice pics...... . Great idea! This should keep the boredem down.       Well, I have to say the best looking aircraft would be the F4U-1 Corsair. The gull wings makes the plane look very beautiful, especially when it's in flight, no need to explain way. I also like birdcage canopy that the early Corsairs had.   I'll post a good picture when I find one!  Reply Jeeves Member since February 2003 From: Saratoga Springs, NY Posted by Jeeves on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 8:33 PM That's easy-- look at my sig tag :D Mike Reply tho9900 Member since July 2004 From: SETX. USA Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 9:17 PM wierd I thought I replied to this...   Mike -- agreed, this would be my pick... not sleek and sexy like a Spitfire or a Mustang.. not brute and powerful like the F6F... but it is a Dauntless... curvy, dependable and trustworthy... like that "Tom-boy" girlfriend who would kick someones rear if they made fun of you for dating her.  ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it! Reply KJ200 Member since July 2003 From: Bicester, England Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 2:26 AM Easy... .....Hellcat. It just looks like it means business, and with that kill ratio, it clearly did! Karl         Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF Reply pingtang Member since April 2003 From: NSW, Australia Posted by pingtang on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 4:23 AM I'd have to agree with both the Hellcat and Dauntless. Both are great looking aircraft to my eye. I think I'll say the SBD is my favourite WW2 carrier aircraft followed closely by the hellcat.  -Daniel Reply gwaihir Member since October 2003 From: Everett, WA Posted by gwaihir on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 10:04 AM Great question Daniel. I would have to say the hellcat too. However, I can't really explain why. When I look at it, it just looks right. Nothing looks goofy or out of place to my eye. For example, I really love the corsair with the gull wings, but the fuselage looks too long. Now of course I know there are reasons and very important reasons to the way planes were designed, but to my eye the perfect one is the hellcat. Leon   Oh by the way, I made the choice / mistake of changing my username with the new system. I used to be newtothegame, but it came from a site for playing chess, so I thought it was time to switch. Anyone else make this choice and loose all of their post numbers (not that it really matters.) Click the banner to see my builds. Reply gwaihir Member since October 2003 From: Everett, WA Posted by gwaihir on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 10:08 AM  jboutin wrote: Which reminds me, anyone doing a Japanese Carrier aircraft? I don't think I saw anyone on the first page. I'm just finishing a zero for the Pearl Harbour GB so I don't realy feel like building anouther. Jay, It is far enough off that I will probably change my mind a few times before it starts, but right now I am thinking of a type 21 zero for this build. However, I have quite a few american carrier planes that I really want to do too (catmouth hellcat, corsair, photo hellcat, martlet) So many planes, so little time... Leon Click the banner to see my builds. Reply jboutin Member since December 2004 From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83 Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 2:10 PM Well said gwaihir, so many planes so little time... JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 - Reply « First«2345678»Last » JOIN OUR COMMUNITY! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login Register SEARCH FORUMS FREE NEWSLETTER SIGN UP By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy. FORUMS PRODUCT REVIEWS READER GALLERY HOW TO VIDEOS SHOP ABOUT US FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER SIGN UP By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy. More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy