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MiG Killers Group Build, 7/07 to 6/08

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  • Member since
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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Friday, September 7, 2007 7:52 PM
great job on the eagle rattler32. one ? for you what paint did you use behind the cockpit seat. i have gotten several answer to it from it being metallic blue green to and off white so what did you paint yours. well guys i have finally been able to start my f-15c. i am all most done with the pit and the seats. i will have me a new camera 2mrow so i can post a few pics for you.
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  • From: peoria il.
Posted by deathrattler32 on Friday, September 7, 2007 7:59 PM

I used modelmaster interior blue/green. cant remember if it was french or italian but it was the closest i seen.It came out real nice with that color and from what people said it was close.

When i get a chance i will open the nose,and door by the nose and the gun bay and take some more pics to show more of the detail.

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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Saturday, September 8, 2007 7:19 PM

The Phantom wasn't touched between Tuesday and Saturday.  I put in some work today, and I'm metalizered out.  The shiny stuff is Alclad Aluminum.  The Darker grey stuff (which I really like) is MM Burnt metal, and the lighter grey stuff (looks too blue to me) is MM Stainless steel.  There are a couple of blemishes in the NMF (I don't think I'll touch) and some parts which should be camoflauged which I'll touch up later.  Overall I'm satisfied.  I still have to paint up some exhaust stains.  

With and Without flash 

Semper Fi,

Chris

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Saturday, September 8, 2007 8:54 PM

Outstanding work on the metalic areas of the tail. it is very convincing and looks the real thing.

Steve

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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Saturday, September 8, 2007 9:05 PM

Thanks Steve,

I'm hoping it'll still look real after I weather it. 

updated post

I wasn't quite happy with the burner cans and the area aft of it.  So I did some more masking and gave them some MM Exhaust.  The cans themselves got a good, solid coating.  The area aft got a bit of misting/fade.  Now I'm very satisfied and happy with how it turned out.  I hope you guys like it.

Semper Fi,

Chris

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  • From: State of Mississippi. State motto: Virtute et armis (By valor and arms)
Posted by mississippivol on Sunday, September 9, 2007 8:48 PM

Great work so far, ya'll. I'm almost ready to shoot some color on my bird. This isn't a great picture, but I hope it shows where I'm going with it. I have to start getting the base and holder for it, so it'll fly once it's done.

 

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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Sunday, September 9, 2007 11:02 PM

Well. I guess it's time for my progress update. Decals are finished at last. Took a lot longer than I expected but the results were worth it. Franken-phantom now looks like Showtime 100! At this time I am assembling AIM-9's and Mk-20's to wing pylons and will set them aside and get the landing gear, gear doors and AIM-7's on before I put the wing pylons on. I wont post any pictures until its finished, but DANG she looks good to me.

I told the wife today I was gonna divorce her and marry my "Model".  LOL.Laugh [(-D]  

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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  • From: State of Mississippi. State motto: Virtute et armis (By valor and arms)
Posted by mississippivol on Monday, September 10, 2007 8:27 PM

At least it won't make you take out the trashWink [;)]

Glenn

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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:21 AM

All done... FINALLY! Three months of fustrating, pain staking work. I am posting this over in the Aircraft forums also. You guys can read my review of this kit there if you like. I am glad it's finished and now I can start another kit for this GB soon. Not sure what I will build next but rest assured that the mistakes I made with this build I will not make again.

Here are the pictures... Enjoy!












 

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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  • From: Panama City, Florida, Hurricane Alley
Posted by berny13 on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:27 AM
 deathrattler32 wrote:

Ok guys here she is.Her story is a F-15c from the eglin gorillas she shot down a mig on Jan.29th,1991 shot down a Mig-23 with a AIM-7 at 1700hrs. flown by Capt. David Rose southeast of kirkuk.It also has 2 SU-22s under its belt which was shot down on Feb. 7,1991.I hope you all like it and I hope the pictures are good enough took them outside but sun wasnt out so hope they are good enough.

hope u all enjoyed.

You did a great job on the Eagle.  I was with the 58 TFS during Linebacker when we deployed to SEA.  I was the Crew Chief on F-4E, 69-260 (Too Sick Oh).  We called ourself the "Mo Gilla" outfit.  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:58 PM

Hey Rand, absolutely great job on Showtime 100. It came out really great and I especially like the weathering on it. Well worth all the effort and extra work you had to put into it. Nice job.

Steve

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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:43 AM

Hey Rand,

Great work on Showtime 100.  Don't worry about whatever mistakes you've made with this kit, because I can't tell.  I like the weathering, especially around the exhaust areas.  It's a great looking Phantom.  And you thought I'd be done first.  I haven't even finished painting. 

Great work,

Semper Fi,

Chris

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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:08 PM
 ridleusmc wrote:

Hey Rand,

Great work on Showtime 100.  Don't worry about whatever mistakes you've made with this kit, because I can't tell.  I like the weathering, especially around the exhaust areas.  It's a great looking Phantom.  And you thought I'd be done first.  I haven't even finished painting. 

Great work,

Semper Fi,

Chris

Sid, Chris, Thanks for the warm words.

OH well Chris, You can still be second and win the Kupi Doll. Laugh [(-D]

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Friday, September 14, 2007 4:35 AM

What's a Kupi Doll?

So what're ya gonna build next?

Semper Fi,

Chris

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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Friday, September 14, 2007 3:46 PM
 ridleusmc wrote:

What's a Kupi Doll?

So what're ya gonna build next?

Semper Fi,

Chris

A Kupi doll is a doll you used to win at carnivals. Usually as a consolation prize. LOL Laugh [(-D] 

I am seriously considering another F-4J but a Marines bird this time, VMFA-122 Crusaders with markings from 1976 but I want to leave off any bicentenial markings. Two other considerations are an F-16 or my F/A-18E SuperBug. I also want to talk the wife into letting me get another Monogram 1/48 F-4J kit to build into a VF-92 Checkmates F-4J. They were VF-96's sister squadron and accounted for one MIG kill the same day Showtime 100 became an ACE.

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Friday, September 14, 2007 10:54 PM

Going off topic here, but Miss Bondo Jr. is a serious collector and wishes her Dads friends to know that a Kewpie Doll is a valued collectors item, depending on the vintage, that is worth anywhere from several dozen to several hundred $$$.

Warning: the following image contains full frontal female nudity and may not be suitable for grown adults.

I'm so, so sorry.

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Friday, September 14, 2007 10:59 PM

Hey you Phantom Phreaks, I've got a question for you. Which might lead to a build for me, albeit in 1/72. Navy attacks such as this probably refueled sometime, right? What aircraft would that fueler have been, on these particular missions? Your depth of knowledge is very impressive to me.

 

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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Friday, September 14, 2007 11:21 PM

KA-6A is the first to come to mind. It was a modified A-6 flown as a refueling tanker.

http://www.cgsd.com/RefuelingSim/Image3_thumb.jpg

And I am LMBO at the kewpie doll.Laugh [(-D]

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Sunday, September 16, 2007 5:14 AM
 bondoman wrote:

Hey you Phantom Phreaks, I've got a question for you. Which might lead to a build for me, albeit in 1/72. Navy attacks such as this probably refueled sometime, right? What aircraft would that fueler have been, on these particular missions? Your depth of knowledge is very impressive to me.

 

Navy birds, now and then, often refueled off of Air Force Machines, such as KC-135's (very similar to a Boeing 707).  True Airforce and Navy Machines use different refueling systems, drouge and probe, but all AF tankers have the capability for both.  However, Navy fuelers only have the drouge, so they can only refuel Navy/Marine Corps aircraft. 

Oh, so that's a Kewpie Doll.  If I won one, I'd put it next to my Phantom.  However, it couldn't be naked.  That's just Lewd. 

Rand, we're looking forward to seeing your new project. 

As for my Phantom: It's painted, and it has its first couple coats of future.  I think I'll add a couple more tomorrow.  I spent today on that and I did some painting on landing gear doors, armorment pylons and the like.  Tomorrow's plan is to work on the missiles and bombs as well as some more future for the plane.  I'd post pics, but there's no real progress to show.  It's been a busy week. 

Semper Fi,

Chris 

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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Sunday, September 16, 2007 6:10 AM

OK guys, I have not decided on what to start on next. I have a few prospects and they are....

1/48 Revell F-4J (1979 release), this kit will need a major overhaul and I am not sure I want to spend the time on it to make it look decent. It will be a Marines bird with markings for VMFA-122 which doesnt count for the GB.

1/48 Monogram F-4E (Monogawa Pro Modeler), Has decal markings for Ritchie-DeBellevue MiG Killer

1/48 Revell F-16C, but I need a set of aftermarket decals to build up as a Cold War Mig Killer.

1/48 Revell F-14A, which I will need decals for Libyan Mig Killers VF-32.

These are my choices and right now I am undecided.

 

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:37 AM

Rand, Reading this, and the other thread in the Aircraft Forum, the answer to the question is obvious;  Ritchie/Debelvue F-4D Phantom, Oyester 3.  You'll have both Navy and Airforce Vietnam aces.    

For another Daily Scat XXVII update:  I'm almost done with all of the bombs and missiles.  I finished painting then I realized that that the rails for the sidewinders are white not camo.  I'm going to fix that tomorrow.  Other than that, everything's painted.  However, not everything is Futured for decals and weathering.  It's a big model with a bunch of big external sub-assemblies, so I expect to go through a half bottle of Future. 

See white 

I'd fix it now, but I think it may be time to make myself a nightcap. 

Semper Fi,

Chris

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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:03 PM
Well I have decided my next project for this GB will be an F-14A. I am going to build my Revell F-14A and use markings for VF-32 Swordsmen AC202 Mig Killer. This aircraft along with his wingman splashed two Libyan Mig-23's in the Gulf of Sidra incident in 1989. Markings will be the colorful yellow and white tail style. I wont begin until next month since I have to wait to buy the decals I need. I have been building a lot of older modern fighters and I feel it time for a little change up to a more recent modern fighter.  

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:53 AM

Good Choice

I looked up the squadron, and the aircraft look pretty cool.  They definately have cool markings.  Contrary to my last post, this is a great choice for the Mig Killer build.  Plus, you can jump in on that Tomcat GB. 

I remember one from VF-31 visiting us in Djibouti, Africa.  Tom Cruise broke the leading edge slats.  They were cool guys, so we traded squadron patches (a long held tradition in squadrons all over the world).  We were bummed, because they didn't give us ones with "Felix" the "Bomb Cat."  Oh well, we wouldn't part with our best patches either. 

Semper Fi,

Chris

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  • From: peoria il.
Posted by deathrattler32 on Friday, September 21, 2007 8:13 PM

Well it has been awhile since i posted in here so i got a chance to catch up.

Showtime looks awesome. and for the other f4 lookin good cant wait to see it done i have always loved the camo F4's one of these days i will add one to my collection.

Everything is lookin good in this build glad i got in this one for my first group build.So on that thought i am goin to build another one i am goin to do the skyraider goin to pick one up this week or next and order all the goodies for it.Lookin good all.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 21, 2007 8:56 PM
Pitty about the US only bit. An Aussie F8 Meteor would have looked good in among the US hardware
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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Friday, September 21, 2007 9:54 PM

 BushyFromOz wrote:
Pitty about the US only bit. An Aussie F8 Meteor would have looked good in among the US hardware

Bushy,

I think you should have read the entire thread. In January I am considering expanding this GB in include Mig Killers from other countries. This will allow for aircraft with other nations that have comfirmed Mig Kills. To my knowlege there are no Aussie aircraft that have Mig Kills. I could be wrong but, I have no recollection nor have heard of any RAAF shooting down a Mig. WWII aircraft do not count here.

EDIT: I did some reasearch and did infact find out that RAAF Squadron 77 flying Gloster F8 Meteors had Mig Kills in Korea. The official record acords 2 comfirmed kills (2 Mig-15's comfirmed kills, 3 probable Mig-15's kills.)

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 22, 2007 4:12 AM

In my defence i did try and read it all, but went cross-eyed in the middle somewhere and started skimming through postsWink [;)]

 Air Master Modeler wrote:

  • EDIT: I did some reasearch and did infact find out that RAAF Squadron 77 flying Gloster F8 Meteors had Mig Kills in Korea. The official record acords 2 comfirmed kills (2 Mig-15's comfirmed kills, 3 probable Mig-15's kills.)

Yeah, i may have already known that bit!Big Smile [:D] They may have even had one land at their base and brought it back to australia with them as well, but I hope you expand the build for sure.

 

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  • From: Westerville, Ohio
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:04 AM

I have decided to hold off on starting a new build for now. Personal issues have arised and I think it would be best to get those taken care of. I may not be online much but I'll check in now and then.

Chris, if you could take over GB host duties for me til I get settled I would really appreciate it!

Thanks

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:56 AM

I'll do my best, progress is slow for me.  I've been working on some of the smaller exterior parts, and fixing problems here and there.  AMM, we hope your personal issues are not too sever. 

Semper Fi,

Chris

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  • From: State of Mississippi. State motto: Virtute et armis (By valor and arms)
Posted by mississippivol on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:17 PM

Guys,

 Great jobs on what I've seen so far. I have most of the colors down on mine, will start decaling shortly. That's if Mugs can avoid hitting the treesBig Smile [:D]

 Glenn

 

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