P-47 "Jug" Group Build

I found more on DBolt

 This is from "Zemke's Wolfpack"  William N. Hess published by Motorbooks International ISBN 0-87938-622-3 pg 138

This book is a great source of all kind of information on 56th FG from its beggining throught the WWII. Detailed description of combat actions as well as pictures and aircraft data. 

GZT,

 Thanks for the pic of the cockpit area! I have looked at the pics of that plane and often wished there was a clearer pic of the canopy.

Kent 

I will keep my eyes on this case.

I did some painting tonight. Experimenting with  "black automotive paint" on Lanowski P-47M.

I am not sure if I got the effect I need. 

I want to take part in your group build for October.  I have the Trumpy kit in 1:32 and would like to give in a whirl.  I'll document everything as I go and send pics regularly.  Thanks.  Right now the kit is washed and drying before assembly.

Regards.

Freddie from LI

Welcome Freddie !!

Nice Tbolt ! Post a lot of pictures here so we can enjoy viewing nice JUGs

Be careful with the MM Metalizer.  It should be OK as an undercoat but do not mask over it.  I would use the Non buffing aluminium and then put a coat of the SEALER they have over it.  That should protect it somewhat.  After you put on your topcoats, to make little scratches. you can use the tip of a #11 knife to GENTLY, and I maean gently 'chip' and 'scratch' away paint.  Again, even with the outer paint on the metalizer, be careful of masking as the tape may STILL pull off paint on you.  I would use drafting tape because it's ;ess sticky than regular masking tape OR take the piece of masking tape you and using and put it into your pants and pull it off a couple of times.  This will take some of the dtrong stickum off the tape and make it less likely to pull off you paint.  I hope that helps you out on this.  Good luck.

Regards,

Freddie

I was a bit unpationed and pilled off masking tape to see what kind of damage I will get by using MM Aluminum Metalizer (non buffing).

Here it is: P-47M painted with black automotive paint (it was though to match - when finish I will make sure the color is exact on the picture - correct White Balance) for now it is what it is- a quick shot with my Rebel.

and other side:

I checked some details and I do not see any damage on the paint. THe only thing I did - wait about three days for the aluminum to cure before I mask it.

I do not think it is so bad, is it ? 

Aw, what the heck. I'm already down for the 1/48 "Doublebolt", so add the 1/72 Hasegawa "Bubbletop" P-47 that I've already gotten about 80% completed. I'll post pics of that one this weekend.

Kent

Kent: nice choice ! I added this build to the list !

John: thanks. It took me some time to matvh the paint color. I read about this particular case of color and it was realy though work - mainly because I never did such thing , my wife was a judge ! She sees colors much better than me I can see just six maybe sever colors and the rest .... whatever

Anyway, this color supposed to be black automotive (faded). Based on some stories I read, it supposed to look almost like black or a very dark blue, depends on the light angle. I think I got this effect - it may not be visible on the pictures above but the final I will take  with a correct white ballance and I hope it will be much better.

Now I plan to let it seat for few days and put some fading colors on spme panels on both upper and lower side.

Gentlemen:

I created a slide show of P-47 details picture slide show here:

http://gzt.myjalbum.net/P-47N/ 

 let me know any comments and ...

enjoy

 ps. I am not sure if this is a "D" or "N" - I thought it was "N" but the stenciling on the fuselage states otherwise... a mystery will be resolved on Oct 14th, another open cockpit day - I plan to take more picts of other planes there - Hellcat and Corsair

CORRECTION: after a short deliberation we came to the conclusion that this aircraft is a "D" - not "N" (~99% sure )

I knew those will be helpful LOL - in fact I messed up mine "M" but I do not plan to correct it, too painfull

If you want to see more from this museum, here is an additional link:

http://gzt.myjalbum.net/NEAirMuseum/

enjoy

on Oct 14 I plan to take much more details and cockpits of Hellcat and Corsair 

Just few more days for an "official" start !

We invite all of you who plan to build a P-47  

Is it bad if I got a little antsy and started early?  I didn't want to start one of the kits and then be halfway through when this started.  I'm not organized enough to do more than one build at a time

-Fred

Fred: it is very bad if you start early ... and NOT place any pictures here

We need more WIP picts here ! This is the only (besides having fun) requirement 

Oh, I'm so in on this one. When I got back into modeling about a year ago it was all armor...but I've been slowly building up some aircraft kits in the stash - and those P-47's are calling out to me! Like everyone else I've got a bunch of other projects going on, but I should be able to start some time in October. It'll be 1/48, either a Hasegawa D razorback, or Academy D bubbletop.

I'm officially fired up.

WELCOME !

You are in ! Officially starts next Week but ... some of us already build "Jugs" here 

gzt wrote:

Fred: it is very bad if you start early ... and NOT place any pictures here We need more WIP picts here ! This is the only (besides having fun) requirement

Well, if you insist.  Keep in mind that these WIP pics are very, very poor and not up to my usual standard.  The completed pics will be much better

Here she is in primer, landing gears have yet to be assembled.  But you can see the resin gun and ammo bays

Here it is with a base coat of Alclad Aluminium and the white base for invasion stripes

Here, the white stripes have been masked off and the black stripes are painted on

Here a pic of the engine and cowling.  The engine is an odd mix of OOB and resin AM.  It took a lot of modding to get the two to mingle

And here she is as she stands today.  The stripes are completed, but the alclad needs a good buffing before I'll be happy with it.

Enjoy!

-Fred

Fred: this  is an awsome build!

Thanks for sharing ! 

Thanks, Greg.

You'll notice how the alclad has the gritty look to it.  I'm hoping that once I get the buffing pads from micromark, I'll be able to smooth it out and get a nice, metal look to it.

If I ever do another BMF, I may try that acrylic stuff from falcon.

-Fred

Yup, she was primed, as you can see in the first pic.  Also, if you take a look at the cowling, I didn't encounter the same problem.

I think what it may be is overspray that dried before it landed, giving it that gritty appearance.  Hopefully, with a little work, I can get a decent finish out of her yet.

-Fred

not too good news . Is it possible that this problem was caused wih too low pressure or position of the AB beeing too far from the subject ?? 

I got TALON acrylic paint and tried it on my scrap wing

I used Aluminum and Dar Aluminum on the front panels. The paint is OK but I have a real hard time to use acrylics. I was not able to get smooth layer, and you can see some overcoat in many places. This wing was originally painted dark see blue (enamels) and than with acrylic talon paint.

One more problem I saw - one of the jars - containing GUNMETAL paint was a bit ... blown. I opened it and released a lot of pressure. I thought first it was just packeging problem but after a day I saw the same bottle blown again - and again released some pressure. It make me think that there is some reaction going on - maybe contamination with some bacteria - something I never experienced with enamels.

Hmmm...was perusing my jugs last night, as well as some aftermarket decals I picked up, trying to match them to the kits I have...which leads me to my question, which is:

What's the difference between a P-47D, D-25, and D-30?

Any info (or a link) highly appreciated. 

dupes wrote:

Hmmm...was perusing my jugs last night, as well as some aftermarket decals I picked up, trying to match them to the kits I have...which leads me to my question, which is: What's the difference between a P-47D, D-25, and D-30? Any info (or a link) highly appreciated.

That's a great question as I've always wondered myself.  I keep finding those referenced, but never any info on the difference.

I think my hase is a D, the verlinden kit was for a D-25 and the AM decals were for a D-30.  So far, everything seems to fit A-OK, so I'm really confused as to what the differences are.

-Fred