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P-47 "Jug" Group Build

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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:18 AM
Alright, alright...so SAY I was going to give it a shot Laugh [(-D] - what gauge wire are you guys using to match 1/48 scale?
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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:00 AM
Fing yourslef an old lamp or extension cord.  Cut open the insulation and that wire shut work just great.

Marc  

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:44 PM

 wing_nut wrote:
Fing yourslef an old lamp or extension cord.  Cut open the insulation and that wire shut work just great.

Just make sure you unplug it first Wink [;)]

Dave

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:21 PM
 razordws wrote:

 wing_nut wrote:
Fing yourslef an old lamp or extension cord.  Cut open the insulation and that wire shut work just great.

Just make sure you unplug it first Wink [;)]

LOL Good point Dave Big Smile [:D]

For really tiny wires I use a telephone cord. Those going from the unit to the wall have really tiny wires inside - perfect for cockpit wires. Those I unplug first. It may be high voltage there too Big Smile [:D]

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by Gigatron on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:34 PM
 gzt wrote:

For really tiny wires I use a telephone cord. Those going from the unit to the wall have really tiny wires inside - perfect for cockpit wires. Those I unplug first. It may be high voltage there too Big Smile [:D]

 Actually, it's low voltage, -48 volts is standard phone power.  But if you cut it while it's ringing, that's 130 volts.  But I don't don't know the amps and that's what kills you.  6mA across the heart will zap you dead.

-Fred

 

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Posted by gzt on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 2:33 PM
This is why I am a mechanical engineer Big Smile [:D] I still remember the first encounter with an electric outlet and a piece of wire in my hand .... Big Smile [:D] and I was 5 at that time

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Posted by Gigatron on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:28 PM

You're not alone, Greg; everyone remembers their first time.  Laugh [(-D] 

Ok, here's the jug with the corrected prop.  I'm calling this one done Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

And some poor cockpit shots

Enjoy,

Fred

 

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:09 PM

Fred: I like this plane ! The paint job is really nice and markings a real eye catcher !

I spent a bit time tonight and finished decaling my Jug.

Here are some picts

 

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Posted by hkshooter on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:15 PM

Alright, finally calling it quits. NMF is not my arena of choice but I finally completed one I'm mostly happy with. This is Hasegawa's 1/48. Built mostly OOB, I added detail to the main gear, and added a resin gunsight. Oh, and PE belts.

Paint is Alclad, Tamiya acryls, MM enamels. Weather is MIG oils and pigments. Flat is Polyscale.

Heck, OOB is out the window. I used Pyn-up decals from Cutting Edge.

Somehow I managed to muck up the nose art decal on the left side. After I had it in register I noticed that the image had some spots flaked off of it. Never knew it happened until later. So we wont look at that one to closely. I'm not sure if the plane was supposed to have nose art on both sides or not but I applied it to both sides anyway. The CE instruction with the cals made no comment about it.

I also cut the tail wheel strut away and made one from brass wire. Learning experiance, the raw brass rod could not be bent tight enough and kept breaking. A few seconds under the torch and the rod was like putty in my hands.Wink [;)]

The plane is supposed to have covers on the wheels that are painted red but I had some Ultracast wheels in the parts box and could not resist using them. I guess that pretty well kills the OOB comment. I was not aware until now how much AM I used on this build. It was fun and I have two more to build, both with Pyn-Up decals. I was looking forward to this one being complete, not so much to be done with it but to see the final product.

Thanks for looking, comments welcome.

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:26 PM

this is a very nice build ! I like her Smile [:)] should I say: both of them Big Smile [:D] Nice choice for markings.

I like the clean look of this bird. Let me look at her again ... 

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:05 PM
Fred, Greg, and Hkshooter, that's some amazing work your guys are churning out.  Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Dave

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:50 PM
HK... loved it inthge A/C forum and love it even better here.... where it belongsWink [;)]

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:53 AM

HKShooter, that looks AMAZING. "Flaws" and all! Big Smile [:D] (notice the quotations)

Damn, now you guys are starting to scare me. Heh.

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, October 26, 2007 10:35 PM

I started my Tamiya 1/48 Razorback and 1/48 Hasegawa Bubbletop (both with 56FG)

Hasegawa is half price of Tamiya but ... a first thing I found while reviewing the parts:

 

 

Is it normal ? I see something like that a first time.Mr.White Putty will be suitable for such filling ??

 

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Posted by hkshooter on Friday, October 26, 2007 10:38 PM
That's a normal thing with the Hase kit. You will also find a rather funky fit on the belly of the plane where the wing and fuse meet. I've built both the Razorback and the bubble top and both kits share these miserable qualities. Putty it up, anything will do.
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Posted by Gigatron on Friday, October 26, 2007 10:55 PM

Yup, I had the same weird "panel misalignment" on the cowl on my jug, as well.  Since it's hard to see on mine, I just left it as is.  If anybody asks, the panel got bent during a quick field repair and the mechanic didn't have the time to bang it out Wink [;)] Laugh [(-D]

-Fred

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Saturday, October 27, 2007 8:45 AM

Smile [:)] Thanks Guys ! I will try to fill it up,

I am taking my Tamiya P-47M "spare" cockpit and will use iton Hasegawa kit. I am a bit dissapointed with Hasegawa but I paid only $26 for this kit compared to Tamiya $40. Next time I will try not to safe this way Big Smile [:D] - Tamiya kit is just fantastic

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by ruddratt on Saturday, October 27, 2007 3:56 PM

Great work so far, guys! Thumbs Up [tup] You've set the bar quite high.

My Tamiya 1/72 razorback showed up yesterday. I'll be doing it pretty much OOB except for some PE belts, Microscale decals to represent A.H. Rainbow's "Anna Louise" 366th FG jug, and some additional scratchbuilt details for the struts & engine. Hope it measures up to what I've already seen here....there's some really impressive stuff on display so far.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Gigatron on Saturday, October 27, 2007 4:28 PM

Greg, I don't know if I'd completely write off Hasegawa due to one manufacturing error.  More than likely, there's a defect in the cowling injection mold.  Otherwise, the kit is great.

Mike, looking forward to your build, buddy.  Make sure to post some WIP pics.

-Fred

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Saturday, October 27, 2007 4:50 PM

Will do, Fred. I am really impressed with that little Tamiya kit.

You fellas have been cranking out some amazing work here. It's been a real treat to look at.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Saturday, October 27, 2007 7:27 PM
 Gigatron wrote:

Greg, I don't know if I'd completely write off Hasegawa due to one manufacturing error.  More than likely, there's a defect in the cowling injection mold.  Otherwise, the kit is great.

Mike, looking forward to your build, buddy.  Make sure to post some WIP pics.

-Fred

 

Fred, I am not going to remove Hasegawa from my list Big Smile [:D] - it is still #2 as far as the quality is. I already started building my Bubbletop, putting some putty on a cowling 

 

 

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Posted by gzt on Saturday, October 27, 2007 8:57 PM

latest from the front: P-47M almost finished. Few more details, paint curing on UC covers and gunsight. Searching for an antena ... Sad [:(]

 

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Posted by Gigatron on Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:53 AM

Lookin' really good, Greg Thumbs Up [tup].

Are those gun barrels stock or did you build them?  The barrels that came with my kit were just plastic rod, nothing fancy.

-Fred

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:05 AM

WOW Greg.. that is just beautiful.  I like the contrast of the light panels lines.  Looks fantastic.

 

Fred, if Greg doesn't mind, those are the kit parts. I am also building a Tamiya kit and the deatil is nothing short of amazing.  Others have said it is one of theor best kits.  I have to agree. 

Finally down to the painting stage.  A bit of planning is needed but I think I have the order figured out. All the fiddly bits wait patiently in the background.

It will be finished as Chowhound 2nd 

 

Marc  

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:35 AM

Greg, that's a super build, and the photos are most excellent as well.  How do you get the blue background like that.

But again, that's a very clean build, all around.  My hat is off to you!

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by Gigatron on Sunday, October 28, 2007 12:55 PM

Ahhh, thanks for the info, Marc! 

I'm going to have to build me a tamiya kit one of these days Laugh [(-D].  Right now, all my builds have been Hasegawa.  But I do have a Tammy in stash (that P-51D you recommended).  Maybe that's what I'll build after I'm done with my Widow.

-Fred

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Sunday, October 28, 2007 12:56 PM

Thank you Gentlemen.

It is almost done - few minor things

John: I got  

from Staples

and when I take a setup like this one

 

I can take a picture with a "stable" background color

however, if the light is not correct, in this case the exposure time was about 15 sec and color is seriously disturbed.

For a quick picture I use the same sheet cut in half and set as follows

so this way I have a very good light and I can limit the exposure time to just a sec or tow.

Usually I set the apperture to be at above 16 (in this case 22) what is giving me desired focus depth. I use a tripod and a wire shutter trigger to make sure no shaking will disturb the picture

I am sorry I used a Spitfire on this Group but since most of us build both Smile [:)] ...  

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:52 AM

I got the Alclad on yesterday.  The thing I love about that stuff is how fast you can mask over it.  Thta's basically it for the paint and decaling will start tonight. I have decided to go with the decal for the stripes.  Well at least that's the plan.

 

Marc  

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Posted by Gigatron on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:22 AM

Beautiful job on that NMF, Marc.  Came out 1000% better than mine did.

I say paint the stripes.  You'll regret it later if you don't...Wink [;)].  If I can do it, anyone can do it.  The jug was my first ever attempt at stripes and they seem to have worked out ok.

-Fred

 

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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:24 AM

Oh man! That's all one evening's worth of painting? Pretty amazing, actually. I didn't realize that Alclad dried that fast.

Did you use more than one shade of paint for the contrasting panels? Or some other method? 

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