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  • Member since
    February 2008
  • From: Van Alstyne, Tx.
Posted by bspeed on Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:13 PM
even with its drawbacks, it would be a one nighter for the more experienced modeler  Cool [8D]
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  • From: Van Alstyne, Tx.
Posted by bspeed on Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:29 PM

I may forego the gear/wheels on this one, and try to cover the wheel wells.

Then use clear rod to mount it in a flying position to a base.

I guess a person just makes a hole in the bottom of the fuse to fit the rod, and apply glue as required ?

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    April 2008
  • From: Fox Lake, Il., USA
Posted by spiralcity on Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:37 PM
 bspeed wrote:

I may forego the gear/wheels on this one, and try to cover the wheel wells.

Then use clear rod to mount it in a flying position to a base.

I guess a person just makes a hole in the bottom of the fuse to fit the rod, and apply glue as required ?

If you look on ebay you can probally find a nice base to apply to this plane, dirt cheap. Probally less than 5.00 US.

I have a base from an old snap on kit i may use to finnish up my P-39 thats sitting arouund with a broken strut.

You could ask around on this forum, someone may have a base that they would be willing to send you for the cost of shipping.

 

 

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  • From: Van Alstyne, Tx.
Posted by bspeed on Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:41 PM

Do you mean a base with the clear curved rod included ?

headed to the 'bay right now :)

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  • From: Van Alstyne, Tx.
Posted by bspeed on Sunday, October 26, 2008 4:44 PM

aw heck this idea will just delay things :) 

Landing gear doors now glued on :)

should be putting on a primer coat in about an hour or two. Canopy glue need to fully dry.

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Posted by Gigatron on Monday, October 27, 2008 11:57 AM

Well, I made a little bit of progress yesterday.  I managed to line up the cockpit and nose wheel bay into one half of the fuselage.

I also assembled the counter-rotating prop system.  I still waiting on some tiny styrene tubing to make the exhaust pipes.  After I get that done, it's on to the overly-complicated struts.

The part I'm not looking forward to at all, is the wing installation. There's no real way to mount the the wings except copious amounts of glue Sad [:(]

-Fred

 

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  • From: Van Alstyne, Tx.
Posted by bspeed on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:13 PM

Most of the Paint is on the Airframe!

need to paint the jet exhaust nozzle section (or paint over in this case).

tires and hubs painting next.

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  • From: Van Alstyne, Tx.
Posted by bspeed on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:01 PM

OH JOY!!!

the Landing gear struts under the wing.....they are the same....no left/ right.. idiots. when you key the holes and attaching parts.....uhh...then you cant make them duplicates.

No wait , im the idiot!! haha, they will work....but the drawing is wrong. crap o matic. love this stuff, so fun, oh yeah bender here!

wish I has closed up the gear doors. this landing gear is total crap fit.

 

What's really a HOOT, is they put in 2 pieces of Photo-etch for the front gear.  Why bother ?

pull those out and maximize the profit! can you tell I'm jsut a little mad ? hehehe.

thank goodness for high placed shelving, no, wait low placed, top view only!

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  • From: Van Alstyne, Tx.
Posted by bspeed on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:22 PM

Well, well....

back to the base and clear rod display.  the gear is such a joke, what with the wheels hanging loose and falling out and such....

on the bright side, I wont have to mess with any more silver paint  in the AB till the next build :)

indeed a NMF finish for the next model I have for this GB :)

  • Member since
    April 2008
  • From: Fox Lake, Il., USA
Posted by spiralcity on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:37 AM
 bspeed wrote:

Well, well....

back to the base and clear rod display.  the gear is such a joke, what with the wheels hanging loose and falling out and such....

on the bright side, I wont have to mess with any more silver paint  in the AB till the next build :)

indeed a NMF finish for the next model I have for this GB :)

Your moving along quickly. Im still dragging my feet.

 

 

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  • From: Van Alstyne, Tx.
Posted by bspeed on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:22 AM

There is not much to this kit :)

Wait till I get to the Revell 107A....have not at how many parts yet, but I have a feeling it will take a while.

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Posted by Gigatron on Monday, November 3, 2008 8:04 PM

Well, here's where it stands after working on it over the weekend

The exhaust tubes are the outer sheathing from some thick wire I found in Evergreen catalog.  It was the only way I could get a 1/16" tube.

 

Most of the fiddly resin bits for the landing gear came broken, so it'll be a while till my next update, while I scratchbuild a whole lot of replacement parts from styrene Sad [:(]

-Fred

 

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Saturday, November 8, 2008 3:40 AM
 Gigatron wrote:

Well, here's where it stands after working on it over the weekend

The exhaust tubes are the outer sheathing from some thick wire I found in Evergreen catalog.  It was the only way I could get a 1/16" tube.

 

Most of the fiddly resin bits for the landing gear came broken, so it'll be a while till my next update, while I scratchbuild a whole lot of replacement parts from styrene Sad [:(]

-Fred

 

Truly a prototype, Gig. Anyone mind if I switch from the XB-35 Flying Wing to the XF-12 Rainbow? The big Northrop is frankly a BAD model, while the Rainbow, by Anigrand, looks superior.
  • Member since
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  • From: Fox Lake, Il., USA
Posted by spiralcity on Saturday, November 8, 2008 2:15 PM
 bondoman wrote:
 Gigatron wrote:

Well, here's where it stands after working on it over the weekend

The exhaust tubes are the outer sheathing from some thick wire I found in Evergreen catalog.  It was the only way I could get a 1/16" tube.

 

Most of the fiddly resin bits for the landing gear came broken, so it'll be a while till my next update, while I scratchbuild a whole lot of replacement parts from styrene Sad [:(]

-Fred

 

Truly a prototype, Gig. Anyone mind if I switch from the XB-35 Flying Wing to the XF-12 Rainbow? The big Northrop is frankly a BAD model, while the Rainbow, by Anigrand, looks superior.

By all means Bondoman. Feel free to work on the Rainbow. Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

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Posted by eatthis on Saturday, November 8, 2008 3:54 PM
any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available?

 

snow + 4wd + escessive hp = :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egUIS70YM

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  • From: Fox Lake, Il., USA
Posted by spiralcity on Saturday, November 8, 2008 4:02 PM

 eatthis wrote:
any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available?

I have no clue.

I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?

 

 

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    June 2008
Posted by lewbud on Saturday, November 8, 2008 8:14 PM
 spiralcity wrote:

 eatthis wrote:
any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available?

I have no clue.

I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?

The maker of the TSR2 was BAC.  It was designed as a Mach 2+ capable Tactical Strike Reconaissance aircraft.  Like the Avro Arrow it ultimately fell victim to politics.  The program was cancelled when the British decided to procure the F-111, a program which eventually was cancelled as well.  Airfix made a 1/72 kit a couple of years ago, and it looks like they will be coming out with a 1/48 kit eventually. The 1/72 kit had a limited production run and hasn't been seen since, although it is/was well supported by the aftermarket.  There was a resin kit produced whose name escapes me now, but was featured in a past (way past) issue of FSM.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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  • From: Fox Lake, Il., USA
Posted by spiralcity on Saturday, November 8, 2008 9:00 PM
 lewbud wrote:
 spiralcity wrote:

 eatthis wrote:
any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available?

I have no clue.

I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?

The maker of the TSR2 was BAC.  It was designed as a Mach 2+ capable Tactical Strike Reconaissance aircraft.  Like the Avro Arrow it ultimately fell victim to politics.  The program was cancelled when the British decided to procure the F-111, a program which eventually was cancelled as well.  Airfix made a 1/72 kit a couple of years ago, and it looks like they will be coming out with a 1/48 kit eventually. The 1/72 kit had a limited production run and hasn't been seen since, although it is/was well supported by the aftermarket.  There was a resin kit produced whose name escapes me now, but was featured in a past (way past) issue of FSM.

 

Perhaps ebay would be the best bet to find the 1/72 nd kit. I'll take a qick look and see what I turn up.

 

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Fox Lake, Il., USA
Posted by spiralcity on Saturday, November 8, 2008 9:07 PM
 spiralcity wrote:
 lewbud wrote:
 spiralcity wrote:

 eatthis wrote:
any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available?

I have no clue.

I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?

The maker of the TSR2 was BAC.  It was designed as a Mach 2+ capable Tactical Strike Reconaissance aircraft.  Like the Avro Arrow it ultimately fell victim to politics.  The program was cancelled when the British decided to procure the F-111, a program which eventually was cancelled as well.  Airfix made a 1/72 kit a couple of years ago, and it looks like they will be coming out with a 1/48 kit eventually. The 1/72 kit had a limited production run and hasn't been seen since, although it is/was well supported by the aftermarket.  There was a resin kit produced whose name escapes me now, but was featured in a past (way past) issue of FSM.

 

Perhaps ebay would be the best bet to find the 1/72 nd kit. I'll take a qick look and see what I turn up.

 

Well I just checked ebay; the only items I could find were a hand full of books and a few wooden assembled kits. Black Eye [B)]

 

 

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, November 8, 2008 9:27 PM
 spiralcity wrote:
 spiralcity wrote:
 lewbud wrote:
 spiralcity wrote:

 eatthis wrote:
any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available?

I have no clue.

I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?

The maker of the TSR2 was BAC.  It was designed as a Mach 2+ capable Tactical Strike Reconaissance aircraft.  Like the Avro Arrow it ultimately fell victim to politics.  The program was cancelled when the British decided to procure the F-111, a program which eventually was cancelled as well.  Airfix made a 1/72 kit a couple of years ago, and it looks like they will be coming out with a 1/48 kit eventually. The 1/72 kit had a limited production run and hasn't been seen since, although it is/was well supported by the aftermarket.  There was a resin kit produced whose name escapes me now, but was featured in a past (way past) issue of FSM.

 

Perhaps ebay would be the best bet to find the 1/72 nd kit. I'll take a qick look and see what I turn up.

 

Well I just checked ebay; the only items I could find were a hand full of books and a few wooden assembled kits. Black Eye [B)]

It's going to be tough to find as I think they made 5000 units available worldwide.  I remember getting excited cause Squadron had them in the May flyer that year which coincided with their open house (come to Scalefest next year and wander the halls of Squadron) and I planned on picking one up then.  When I got there they had already sold out and weren't getting any more.  When I asked a buddy of mine about it, he said they only produced about 5k units and if you didn't preorder you were sol.  Hopefully they'll repop the 72 when they release the 48.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Saturday, November 8, 2008 11:20 PM
 lewbud wrote:
 spiralcity wrote:
 spiralcity wrote:
 lewbud wrote:
 spiralcity wrote:

 eatthis wrote:
any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available?

I have no clue.

I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?

The maker of the TSR2 was BAC.  It was designed as a Mach 2+ capable Tactical Strike Reconaissance aircraft.  Like the Avro Arrow it ultimately fell victim to politics.  The program was cancelled when the British decided to procure the F-111, a program which eventually was cancelled as well.  Airfix made a 1/72 kit a couple of years ago, and it looks like they will be coming out with a 1/48 kit eventually. The 1/72 kit had a limited production run and hasn't been seen since, although it is/was well supported by the aftermarket.  There was a resin kit produced whose name escapes me now, but was featured in a past (way past) issue of FSM.

 

Perhaps ebay would be the best bet to find the 1/72 nd kit. I'll take a qick look and see what I turn up.

 

Well I just checked ebay; the only items I could find were a hand full of books and a few wooden assembled kits. Black Eye [B)]

It's going to be tough to find as I think they made 5000 units available worldwide.  I remember getting excited cause Squadron had them in the May flyer that year which coincided with their open house (come to Scalefest next year and wander the halls of Squadron) and I planned on picking one up then.  When I got there they had already sold out and weren't getting any more.  When I asked a buddy of mine about it, he said they only produced about 5k units and if you didn't preorder you were sol.  Hopefully they'll repop the 72 when they release the 48.

I've got one in the stash, oh yes I do and a honey it is. Meant to join my Victor/Vulcan/ Valiant collection in 1/72.

I'd get all over the 1/48 when she is released- It'll go fast and it's a really nice aircraft, too. It's about the same size as a F-111 so big is not too big.

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Posted by eatthis on Sunday, November 9, 2008 2:16 AM
 spiralcity wrote:

 eatthis wrote:
any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available?

I have no clue.

I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSR2

 

basically it did everythin the tornado did at least as well years before it. it was a damn good aircraft that got killed by politics. i beleive it used a version of the concord/vulcan engines too 30,000 lb thrust each!

 

snow + 4wd + escessive hp = :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egUIS70YM

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  • From: South Coast NSW, Australia
Posted by Simon L on Sunday, November 9, 2008 3:57 AM

Yes- Airfix did the 1/72 a couple of years back and it was limited. I picked up two and a buddy gave me one as a gift. I  have all the Xtradecal 'what if ?' decals too.

I'll try and pick up a couple of the 1/48 when it's out as well. I have the 1/48 dynavector TSR2 in vacform which looks good when built, but I haven't done mine as yet.

Simon

 

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Posted by eatthis on Sunday, November 9, 2008 4:03 AM
fancy sellin me 1 of em?

 

snow + 4wd + escessive hp = :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egUIS70YM

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Posted by More Power Scotty on Sunday, November 9, 2008 9:09 AM
What's that saying about even the best laid plans?  I went straight from my figures review to starting up a couple of other reviews, leaving my partially finished N-1M sadly collecting more dust while patiently waiting for its turn.  So many models, so little time.  I also slipped up by not taking an in-progress photo the other day when I had my photo booth set up.  Doh!  The weather here is turning rather cool now, so my bike is no longer calling for my attention when I get home from work.  I will keep the group informed once I do make some new progress. 
Scott
  • Member since
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  • From: Fox Lake, Il., USA
Posted by spiralcity on Sunday, November 9, 2008 3:39 PM

 More Power Scotty wrote:
What's that saying about even the best laid plans?  I went straight from my figures review to starting up a couple of other reviews, leaving my partially finished N-1M sadly collecting more dust while patiently waiting for its turn.  So many models, so little time.  I also slipped up by not taking an in-progress photo the other day when I had my photo booth set up.  Doh!  The weather here is turning rather cool now, so my bike is no longer calling for my attention when I get home from work.  I will keep the group informed once I do make some new progress. 

 

Great! I/m looking forward to seeing a couple pics of the N-1M.

I'ts been getting rather frigid here in Illinois. I actually found some time for my kit last night. I plan on doing a bit more today. I'll also post progress pics when my cockpit is assembled.

 

 

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Posted by eatthis on Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:33 PM

iv won myself a tsr 2 off ebay so can i join this gb?

ps i posted in fantasy fliers post by mistake lol

 

snow + 4wd + escessive hp = :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egUIS70YM

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by trexx on Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:19 PM

bSpeed, I'm hoping all that 'venting' has kept your blood pressure within reasonable limits.

That Gloster jet is looking dang GREAT!

Keep slugging away at it! I've never seen a model of that airplane.

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  • From: Fox Lake, Il., USA
Posted by spiralcity on Friday, November 14, 2008 1:56 AM
 eatthis wrote:

iv won myself a tsr 2 off ebay so can i join this gb?

ps i posted in fantasy fliers post by mistake lol

 

Sure, you can join. I'll add you to the board. Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

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    March 2007
  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Friday, November 14, 2008 2:50 AM
 eatthis wrote:
 spiralcity wrote:

 eatthis wrote:
any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available?

I have no clue.

I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSR2

 

basically it did everythin the tornado did at least as well years before it. it was a damn good aircraft that got killed by politics. i beleive it used a version of the concord/vulcan engines too 30,000 lb thrust each!

The Engine comparisons are a little vague but the Concorde with the Olympus 593 wins hands down. TSR2 had two engines that had twice the performance of the Olymp's in the Vulcan (4). ie about equal and Vulcan is subsonic.

Sad to say the same output as the two J79's in the Phantom II. But was designed as a nuclear strike bomber.

I don't see it working; either the F-4 or the later F-111 wins. The Tornado is a whole other story.

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