Prototype GB All Era's

mg.mikael wrote:

Hey spiralcity, I know it's a little late to be joining but can I still join up? I'd like to enter your GB with a scratch build 1893 Horatio Phillips steam-powered multiplane. There was a working prototype tested, that's what the pic below shows. I think it fits the bill of a prototype, right?

Sure, jump in ! it's never too late. this build runs up till October. Im looking forward to seeing the plane.

GO SOX!!!!

spiralcity wrote:

mg.mikael wrote: Hey spiralcity, I know it's a little late to be joining but can I still join up? I'd like to enter your GB with a scratch build 1893 Horatio Phillips steam-powered multiplane. There was a working prototype tested, that's what the pic below shows. I think it fits the bill of a prototype, right?   Sure, jump in ! it's never too late. this build runs up till October. Im looking forward to seeing the plane. GO SOX!!!!

Great!!! This is gonna be my first ever scratch build so I'm excited. However now the real work begins......gotta find a conversion chart or something like that in order to size the parts. correcty and to figure out what scale it will be.

mg.mikael wrote:

spiralcity wrote:  mg.mikael wrote: Hey spiralcity, I know it's a little late to be joining but can I still join up? I'd like to enter your GB with a scratch build 1893 Horatio Phillips steam-powered multiplane. There was a working prototype tested, that's what the pic below shows. I think it fits the bill of a prototype, right?   Sure, jump in ! it's never too late. this build runs up till October. Im looking forward to seeing the plane. GO SOX!!!! Great!!! This is gonna be my first ever scratch build so I'm excited. However now the real work begins......gotta find a conversion chart or something like that in order to size the parts. correcty and to figure out what scale it will be.

A big HONKING 1/32 would be cool !

Im looking forward to seeing this project develop.

Spiralcity and all,

Stick a fork in it, it's done!  Here are the finished photos of the Aichi M6A1 Seiran.  Any and all comments will be appreciated.

Showing the interior of the second plane...

The trolley by itself...

More Power Scotty wrote:

Spiralcity and all, Stick a fork in it, it's done!  Here are the finished photos of the Aichi M6A1 Seiran.  Any and all comments will be appreciated. Showing the interior of the second plane... The trolley by itself...

Thats a nice looking build Scott. She's a 1/72 right?

Thanks for posting her.

Here's my first post/update on my 1893 Horatio Phillips Multi-Plane. Basically still gathering supplies and getting info about the aircraft itself. Though I have decided to make the frame for the aircraft out of balsa wood, the "wing" is another story. Since I'm still trying to figure out what I'm gonna use for it. As for the scale, I'm gonna do some number crunching tonight to figure out what size would make this build look good.

Here's the only reference book I have that mentions the aircraft and has a color drawing. The World Encyclopedia of Civil Aircraft by Enzo Angelucci, that I got for an amazing price of 50 cents at a local library book sale. I guess now it's worth it's weight in gold, at least to me.

Needed some balsa wood for the frame and I had nothing that would suffice, so I had to go to HobbyLobby and pick it up. It's a 3/32 x 6 x 36 board that cost a total of $4.57.

And finally a pic of the web photos I found and some dimensions/info about the plane. Not to mention my cheat sheet of possible ways to scratch certain things like the propellers, engine, and winglets(the venetian blind looking thing).

Hopefully I'll have another update soon, but first I have to come up with a scale and start some basic frame work.

mg.mikael wrote:

Here's my first post/update on my 1893 Horatio Phillips Multi-Plane. Basically still gathering supplies and getting info about the aircraft itself. Though I have decided to make the frame for the aircraft out of balsa wood, the "wing" is another story. Since I'm still trying to figure out what I'm gonna use for it. As for the scale, I'm gonna do some number crunching tonight to figure out what size would make this build look good. Here's the only reference book I have that mentions the aircraft and has a color drawing. The World Encyclopedia of Civil Aircraft by Enzo Angelucci, that I got for an amazing price of 50 cents at a local library book sale. I guess now it's worth it's weight in gold, at least to me. Needed some balsa wood for the frame and I had nothing that would suffice, so I had to go to HobbyLobby and pick it up. It's a 3/32 x 6 x 36 board that cost a total of $4.57. And finally a pic of the web photos I found and some dimensions/info about the plane. Not to mention my cheat sheet of possible ways to scratch certain things like the propellers, engine, and winglets(the venetian blind looking thing). Hopefully I'll have another update soon, but first I have to come up with a scale and start some basic frame work.

Looks like it's goinf to be a cool project. Keep us posted as it develops.

Well I spent most of my Sunday fitting the cockpit into my bird then sanding the seams. All the fun stuff!!!

Here's what I started with.

And i got this far ! Not much for most of my day but it's getting there.

Spiralcity,

Thanks for the compliment, and yes, she is 1/72 scale.  Tamiya released a 1/48 version first, but I tend to prefer the smaller scale kits unless I am building WWI-era items.

I finally did all the mathematics, and I figured out the scale my build will be in........1/32!

Now with the calculations of some of the parts(some parts like the propeller and engine I'm gonna have to wing it), I can finally get in the garage and start cutting some boards to get started on the frame. I can't yet tell if I'll be using balsa for the two main support planks in the frame, probably not, because I'd have to layer the balsa six times to get the correct size. So I probably be using some oak or pine or whatever else is laying around.

mg.mikael wrote:

I finally did all the mathematics, and I figured out the scale my build will be in........1/32! Now with the calculations of some of the parts(some parts like the propeller and engine I'm gonna have to wing it), I can finally get in the garage and start cutting some boards to get started on the frame. I can't yet tell if I'll be using balsa for the two main support planks in the frame, probably not, because I'd have to layer the balsa six times to get the correct size. So I probably be using some oak or pine or whatever else is laying around.

This should be very fun to watch. Keep us posted, I cant wait to see some progress pics..

This past Saturday and Sunday I played around with the saw and wood. Basically just cut a test piece to figure if it will bend as needed. Then I ran into a problem with the dimensions I got off the web. ARGH! It said the two main boards of the frame were 18 inches wide! But are clearly not that wide in the pics, so now I'm gonna have to "wing" the board frame widths.

But I think I overcame that problem......so I should be able to get in the garage on the Friday and cut the boards. That way I have the time to soak the wood and bend it over the weekend to the preffered curvature. Geez, so much work, but suprisingly I'm not put off by it, and I'm one hell of a lazy procratinator.

mg.mikael wrote:

This past Saturday and Sunday I played around with the saw and wood. Basically just cut a test piece to figure if it will bend as needed. Then I ran into a problem with the dimensions I got off the web. ARGH! It said the two main boards of the frame were 18 inches wide! But are clearly not that wide in the pics, so now I'm gonna have to "wing" the board frame widths. But I think I overcame that problem......so I should be able to get in the garage on the Friday and cut the boards. That way I have the time to soak the wood and bend it over the weekend to the preffered curvature. Geez, so much work, but suprisingly I'm not put off by it, and I'm one hell of a lazy procratinator.

Cool, I hope to see some pics soon..

I've been busy with another project, so my Ryan has been sitting idle for a time. I'll be getting back to her shortly.

Good luck with your project.

Spiralcity - Bummer about the cockpit issues....  You did a good job getting some character out of it. Weathering will bring some more details out. And I have about 6 Czech kits in my stash lol

mg.mikael - look forward to your build! Have never even heard of that beast... 

scott - nice build! Specially at that scale... I have couple RUFEs in partial completion state, IJN/IJA certainly had a lot of floatboat type craft.

JMart wrote:

Spiralcity - Bummer about the cockpit issues....  You did a good job getting some character out of it. Weathering will bring some more details out. And I have about 6 Czech kits in my stash lol mg.mikael - look forward to your build! Have never even heard of that beast...  scott - nice build! Specially at that scale... I have couple RUFEs in partial completion state, IJN/IJA certainly had a lot of floatboat type craft.

Hi JMart,

I havent seen you around this GB in some time.

The only thing I will do with the cockpit now is shoot a ltiile flat in it and give it a light wash. Im finished with that thing. I just want to get it together now amd wrap it up.

Thanks for stopping in.

JMart wrote:

Been slowly catching up with my builds and GB forums :)   Will start this one in the summer

Great news Jmart,

Im looking forward to having you jump in...

JMart: I'll probably see you in this thread in the summer. Since I'll be building for a long, long while.

Anyways, as for my update on where I'm at.......got the wood cut. I think it's some sort of cedar, not too sure, since I get alot of the wood from scraps from a nearby architectural wood molding place. How's that for being resourceful. Anyways the wood is cut to a size of .20 X .30(I think, I gotta re-check to make sure). The cuts came out good, no chipping or bad splintering of the wood, I get some pics up soon.

Spiralcity,

May I join the GB? I love building unusual subjects and there certainly are alot of great subjects in the thread so far.

If OK with you I'd like to submit the Heinkel HE-100D in 1/48 scale. It's a short run kit. It looks pretty good and inlcudes some PE for the cokcpit. Here's a picture.

Look forward to your reply!

model geek wrote:

Spiralcity, May I join the GB? I love building unusual subjects and there certainly are alot of great subjects in the thread so far. If OK with you I'd like to submit the Heinkel HE-100D in 1/48 scale. It's a short run kit. It looks pretty good and inlcudes some PE for the cokcpit. Here's a picture. Look forward to your reply!

model geek,

Feel free to jump in ! I'll drop you a pm and add you to the board.

By the way, thats a great subject you have there.

mg.mikael wrote:

Not wanting to sound like a nag, but can I get some "love" here too, and get on the first page roster, spiralcity?

Sorry for the oversight.

 I'll put you up there right now.

Well, I had the wood for the main two planks of the frame cut about a week ago, finally got around to putting them in water. The two planks are 9.40 inches long, and 0.20 x 0.30 in width and height. After letting them soak for about 24 hours, I can start bending to the curvature I want. Though I think I may need to make a vice of some sort, so they keep that curve when drying. Hmmm.......I'll build it as needed. Note: The wood just seems redder in the water, in actuality their much more pale in color.

Oh and I finally got around to starting the official WIP thread in the aircraft section.

mg.mikael wrote:

Well, I had the wood for the main two planks of the frame cut about a week ago, finally got around to putting them in water. The two planks are 9.40 inches long, and 0.20 x 0.30 in width and height. After letting them soak for about 24 hours, I can start bending to the curvature I want. Though I think I may need to make a vice of some sort, so they keep that curve when drying. Hmmm.......I'll build it as needed. Note: The wood just seems redder in the water, in actuality their much more pale in color. Oh and I finally got around to starting the official WIP thread in the aircraft section.

Excellent ! this should be a lot of fun to watch.

The wood for the frame was soft and bendable today, so wasting no time I made the jig. Simply nails in a board. I'm pretty much wingin' it, since there's no info on how much these boards were curved in the 1893 aircraft. So the jig/curve was done by eye, getting the most appleaing cuve. Now I just gotta wait for the boards to dry, in the meantime I got a softskin armor on the bench.

model geek wrote:

This one will be interesting to follow. A whole different ballgame from the world of styrene! Look forward to updates on your progress. Looks like a good start

You got that right, styrene and wood are very different. Yet they suprisingly are quite similar, both can be glued, sanded, cut, and painted. But with wood, one mistake can mean the whole piece is good for kindling instead of modeling. Oh by the way I also started a WIP of this multiplane in the aircraft section. So you can also follow the build in that section too.

My build has sorta been on the back burner this week. No pics today, since I didn't get done with much. The only thing I basically did was figure out how far apart the two main plank's will be. It's harder then it sounds, since I had to wing it. Thus it was done by "eyeing it" and a bunch of mathematics based off the other parts. What fun.......

I did however find three gears, yes gears, that I plan to modify into wheels if all goes to plan. I also found an axle, (stainless steel, perfect size) for the rear wheels inside an old CPU from a computer. Boo yah!

mg.mikael wrote:

My build has sorta been on the back burner this week. No pics today, since I didn't get done with much. The only thing I basically did was figure out how far apart the two main plank's will be. It's harder then it sounds, since I had to wing it. Thus it was done by "eyeing it" and a bunch of mathematics based off the other parts. What fun....... I did however find three gears, yes gears, that I plan to modify into wheels if all goes to plan. I also found an axle, (stainless steel, perfect size) for the rear wheels inside an old CPU from a computer. Boo yah!

My projects are put to the side as of now also. I hope to see some more pics soon.