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ICARUS/LIBERTY 1 BUILD (Completed 4-18-21)

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 28, 2018 9:20 AM

GMorrison
Or just don't worry about it. I lose momentum on models when I get into trying to fix every little thing.

I am totally onboard with this. I am not going to worry about it. I'd probably make the problem worse trying to fix this issue. One thing affects another. I don't see it as a big deal. 

GMorrison
BTW is Monster in Miniatures the casting company?

They are not. They had told me they are using the same mold house that Fantastic Plastic used for their Icarus. Who that is, I am not sure.

GMorrison
I built a Nemo model from them and it was the bomb.

 That is great to hear Bill. I would not hesitate to order from them again.

This brings up a good point that I think is worth repeating. This kit has it's problems, and you are seeing some of them as I work through the build. Please don't anyone consider this a hunk of junk. I consider it a gem in the rough. The kit provides the framework for an outstanding model. Seriously, it is a decent kit. It is probably not for the novice though. I would encourage anyone that has this ship on their bucket list -- buy it now. There is no telling how much longer MIM will continue producing it. One by one all of the manufacturers dropped out of making them. MIM is the last one standing.

What is surprising to me is how none of the major injection molding companies produced it. When you consider how popular the APEs movies were and all the toys and paraphernalia they produced. This is a cool model. I look at it on my bench and think, Dang...that thing is cool! I love the shape and lines of it.

Anyway, I'll stop yapping now.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, June 28, 2018 7:35 PM

Gamera
Never really thought about making my own knife handles but sounds pretty cool. Would love to see a photo!

It's very tactile.  If you use wood (or similar to wood) scale materials, it's a good excuse to get out a spokeshave and microplane and make happy shavings.  Then, it's off to the belt sander! Smile

Is an elegant way to combine [blade shape/size/material] with a grip of one's desire.

All started--as many hobbies do--with a gift of parts.  Was a learning experience (protip:  practice peening brass or bronze scale pins not on the intended finished product o_O)

Best set I ever turned out was using a "grill set" of blanks that were hot blued.  The set was discontinued, so a real bargain--a french-style chef's, a slicer, a fillet blade, and a two-tine fork.  I had a pile of white tail sheds, too.  So, sawed the sheds into suitable handles.  Then drilled  flied them for the blind tangs on the blanks.  Was a cool gift.

I'll see if I cna scrounge up some pics.

Oh, and to somewhat veer back into the thread, I helped restore a jukebox.  The internals were fascinating; but the wood was a joy to work with.  When we got it, it was full of Monkey's singles.  Which we should have saved, these were single-sided "juke" pressings.  Which are now worth more than a penny on eBay.

Traded the Rokola labor for a bunch of silicon-bronze fitting for the boat I was building at the time.  To wind up and giving in to the juke owner and selling the 80% finished boat to him.  So, yeah, after all the sanding and sealing Smile

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 28, 2018 9:22 PM

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Thursday, June 28, 2018 9:26 PM

Bakster
Real G Stop having fun in here, or the gorillas will lock you up

Bakster
I'm not too worried. Timmy has a shotgun. I hope it works better than his computer though. Hehe. 

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 28, 2018 9:29 PM

littletimmy

   

 

Laughing

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 29, 2018 11:20 AM

CapnMac82

 

 
Gamera
Never really thought about making my own knife handles but sounds pretty cool. Would love to see a photo!

 

It's very tactile.  If you use wood (or similar to wood) scale materials, it's a good excuse to get out a spokeshave and microplane and make happy shavings.  Then, it's off to the belt sander! Smile

Is an elegant way to combine [blade shape/size/material] with a grip of one's desire.

All started--as many hobbies do--with a gift of parts.  Was a learning experience (protip:  practice peening brass or bronze scale pins not on the intended finished product o_O)

Best set I ever turned out was using a "grill set" of blanks that were hot blued.  The set was discontinued, so a real bargain--a french-style chef's, a slicer, a fillet blade, and a two-tine fork.  I had a pile of white tail sheds, too.  So, sawed the sheds into suitable handles.  Then drilled  flied them for the blind tangs on the blanks.  Was a cool gift.

I'll see if I cna scrounge up some pics.

Oh, and to somewhat veer back into the thread, I helped restore a jukebox.  The internals were fascinating; but the wood was a joy to work with.  When we got it, it was full of Monkey's singles.  Which we should have saved, these were single-sided "juke" pressings.  Which are now worth more than a penny on eBay.

Traded the Rokola labor for a bunch of silicon-bronze fitting for the boat I was building at the time.  To wind up and giving in to the juke owner and selling the 80% finished boat to him.  So, yeah, after all the sanding and sealing Smile

 

Thanks Captain! 

I've been finishing my own wooden bases for my models and really enjoyed working with something different. Sounds like fun esp restoring the junkbox! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 29, 2018 11:23 AM

Bakster

 

I hope when you hold the Icarus up she isn't going to say 'MAMA!' 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    September 2011
  • From: Milaca, Minnesota
Posted by falconmod on Friday, June 29, 2018 12:21 PM

Throw her over board!!!

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, June 29, 2018 8:38 PM

Wait .... the "male" Ape speak's ???

BTW: I found another picture of the cockpit, but it's not a very good picture...

This shot ( Escape from the planet of the Ape's ) show's at least one computer screen.

Kinda remind's me of "Pong".

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, June 29, 2018 9:29 PM

Gamera
esp restoring the junkbox!

Lots of exquisite veneers on tulip and pear wood and poplar mixed in with a hickory frame.  Rather mor ethan a bit I wanted to steal for my boat Smile

Was in the next shop bay over from my boat, so it was handy for when I was waiting on things to dry on the boat, I could sand on jukebox parts.

Oh, and at least one of those sessions, I was watching one of the Ape movies. Smile

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    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, June 29, 2018 10:08 PM

                       OK......

I realize that building model's can take some time..... and sometime's we have to sit there, and watch "paint dry"

So Baxter, I decided to put the entire "Planet of the Ape's " movie into this thread.... so we could all watch it while we wait.....

 

Yea...... I don't like waiting for paint to dry.......

EDIT: Well there's a first, My computer will play it just fine.... but it send's everybody else's computer's into "crash Dive".

Sorry about that.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, June 30, 2018 12:36 AM

Delete your post, or, gotta sit through the download?

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:08 AM

littletimmy

                   So Baxter, I decided to put the entire "Planet of the Ape's " movie into this thread.... so we could all watch it while we wait.....

 

   Best 30 seconds ever.

I had forgotten how much of the spacecraft "insides" were shown. 

It occurs to me the controls were so simple that even a Ape could fly this thing.

   Nino.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, June 30, 2018 8:13 AM

Timmy, please review. If your post is causing problems, seems to be, please consider removing it.

Thank you.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, June 30, 2018 8:16 AM

CapnMac82

 

 
Gamera
esp restoring the junkbox!

 

Lots of exquisite veneers on tulip and pear wood and poplar mixed in with a hickory frame.  Rather mor ethan a bit I wanted to steal for my boat Smile

Was in the next shop bay over from my boat, so it was handy for when I was waiting on things to dry on the boat, I could sand on jukebox parts.

Oh, and at least one of those sessions, I was watching one of the Ape movies. Smile

 

Cool stuff Capn. Thanks for sharing all that. 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, June 30, 2018 8:27 AM

Nino
It occurs to me the controls were so simple that even a Ape could fly this thing.

Ha! Good one.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, June 30, 2018 8:29 AM

Gamera
I hope when you hold the Icarus up she isn't going to say 'MAMA!' 

Not yet...

Embarrassed

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, June 30, 2018 11:24 AM

It's a major award! "FRA-GI-LE"

The day has come to reveal, "What's this contraption?" I know that you are all waiting with bated breath. As Dr Evil would say, "Rrrrrrright."

Firstly-- I want to thank those that played along. You guys stepped up and produced some really comical ideas. It was fun, and you made it so. Thanks for that!

So, who wins? Well, no one guessed it. I didn't give you much to go on. In truth... the answers you gave are better than reality. It was a hoot. In lieu of one winner, I hereby declare that all respondents are winners of the coveted, sure to be sought after, virtual, SPOCK Ipad award. (LOUD APPLAUSE) Congratulations! Bow Down Balloons You may download the award at your convenience. 

So, what is this hunk of junk anyway. It is a stand to hold and position a vacuum nozzle. The end goal is to suck up resin particles as I grind off material. I made it for this project, mainly. There will be some major grinding when I attack those cryo chambers. But--this will be used as well for other types of material and projects. The idea here is to reduce my health risk, and, to reduce the mess from settling dust. I will soon find out if it was worth the effort. I have other nozzle tips I can try, if needed.

Thanks again, guys!

Bakster

 

 

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    July 2014
  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:28 PM

Bakster

It is a stand to hold and position a vacuum nozzle.

Thanks again, guys!

Bakster

 

    Well, that sucks. On the other hand,  thats a good scale size Nozzle for a 1/25 size Ape capsule.

Full size Ape capsule below.

 Nino

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    May 2011
  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Saturday, June 30, 2018 3:02 PM

As The Spleen from Mystery Men said "Doc, you're a genius!!!"

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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  • From: back country of SO-CAL, at the birth place of Naval Aviation
Posted by DUSTER on Saturday, June 30, 2018 5:32 PM

 

Baskster

    

We wish to thank you, for your more than generis gift of the,

                    Virtual, SPOCK IPad Award.

 

to us.  I shall have one of my minions down load the Prize, shortly ( No, not the minion, but as in amount of time-Geesh)

 

I’m am glad, (though to be honest how could it have been otherwise?) to have won, even though you “supposedly” have awarded my prize to the lesser- er-Other entrants; I shall keep “our little secret” never fear.

 

You may contact me about the delivery schedule of my prize, so my minions will be readily at hand to receive it 

 

Your Fumbling Savant

 

Prop Duster   The winner

p.s. Now get back to work!

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, June 30, 2018 7:15 PM

I hereby Apologize for the "Stutter" my previous post created. I will keep my future picture posting to more managable ( less bandwith eating ) content.

The "technically Challanged" post has been edited, and removed....... to protect the Innocent.

Nino
Full size Ape capsule below.

That's not "right" !!!

Baxter, I found a consol pannel you could use for your cockpit...

Also found a "slightly" more accurate model cockpit.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, June 30, 2018 8:41 PM

Hello guys. Thanks for the nice comments and the fun jokes. You are a class act, and it is a privilege to know you. I mean that.

Timmy... you can stop looking for cockpit photos. I think that I have more than enough. Also, I have the DVD movie that I can peruse for details, when needed. Thanks for all the effort, and sorry that your movie video didn't work out. I am sure it was a lot of work. It was pretty dang impressive! And yes. I think it is a good idea to keep it simple. 

I did some grinding today and I used my contraption. It worked pretty well. The fine dust was sucked up well. The heavier grains did not. The vacuum I am using is a small bench top style. So, it does not have enough power to suck it all up. That's fine though because it's the dust that I am concerned about. Long story short, it works! Yea!

Progress is being made but it will probably be a while before it looks like it. 

Btw. I received an email that the resin nozzles are on the way. I will probably see them on Monday. Though I won't get to that assembly for a good bit... I look forward to seeing how they look In 3D.

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, June 30, 2018 10:22 PM

Bakster
It is a stand to hold and position a vacuum nozzle.

Oops ..... I was way off. I thought it was a camera mount, for taking picture's of model's.

( My other guess would have been an instrument used by the "Blue Man Group". )

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 1, 2018 9:32 AM

littletimmy

 

 
Bakster
It is a stand to hold and position a vacuum nozzle.

 

Oops ..... I was way off. I thought it was a camera mount, for taking picture's of model's.

( My other guess would have been an instrument used by the "Blue Man Group". )

 

The camera mount is logical and a good guess. The Blue Man Group is funny, and in keeping with many of the others that were submitted. 

Good stuff guys. 

Since it is hot and humid out I will probably head to the dungeon for more sanding. Good thing this resin stuff sands well. In fact. You need to be very careful to not over-sand. Interesting stuff. I would love to tour a place where these casts are made. I would like to see the molds and the process.

 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 1, 2018 2:22 PM

Christmas in July

US Postal delivered the nozzles today. On a Sunday? What is this world coming to? I found another box there too. This box was from a plastic order I had placed. This was delivered today as well.

A few things to note:

1. At the top right is an acrylic sample set that I ordered. The cost of the set is $8.49. I figure this a good value because I always seem to need acrylic for something, and this set comes in various thicknesses. It saves me the trouble of looking around for the stuff. I will try .060 for the windows. I also ordered extruded acrylic rods in various sizes. I will try that for instrumentation.  

2. Look at the new nozzles in comparison to the first set lower left. The new ones are behemoths! Lol. They look right though. They are big enough to blow your face off. Thats what I care about. Nice!

Regarding the nozzles. Their detail looks nice. The negative is that there is a lot of flash to clean up. There are hours of work getting it out under the piping and such. I was expecting this I guess. Cleanup seems to come with the territory for resin.

 

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    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Sunday, July 1, 2018 4:21 PM

Bakster
US Postal delivered the nozzles today. On a Sunday? What is this world coming to?

Well......

The "nozzle's" were shipped from planet Nezzbin. That's 23 light years away. They were shipped on a wednesday..... 700 year's ago.( They use "Physic Power's " to antisipate order's that havent been placed yet.) Your order was set to arrive on Friday ( which it is ....on planet Nezzbin ) The U.S. Postal Service didn't want to admit that "Extraterrestial" life exist's, so in order to hide the truth.... they put your package in your mailbox "Early"Sunday morning.... and then Ran away !

As for the clean-up, even if your careful, you will probably "Accidentally" sand off a pipe or two. If this happen's , just replace those pipe's with some wire that's the same size.

( It may be easier to just do that anyway. )

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, July 1, 2018 4:58 PM

Bakster
US Postal delivered the nozzles today. On a Sunday?

We will see more of this, actually.

Amazon Prime, with its delivery guarantees, has taken to paying enough to pay the USPS overtime for Sunday deliveries.

Interestingly, UPS and FedEx thend to only ship to closest retial outlet for residential deliveries.  If there is not a local office, they will drop the delivery onto USPS for the final, to door, delivery.

This is going to really affect the modeling community, as we are so deep into the mail order side of things.

Which brings up a thought I had late last night (probably margarita-induced).  I'm wondering why it is the various supply houses to not take up returned or strau bits and offer them as greeblie packs.

That cockpit Timmy showed above looks very sharp--any details on that?

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    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Sunday, July 1, 2018 5:29 PM

CapnMac82
That cockpit Timmy showed above looks very sharp--any details on that?

I found two example's of Mr Mcfarlane's work here.

http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=96744

And here.

http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=96014

BTW: CapnMac82, I noticed you changed your "avatar" ... I "kinda" got use to the original one. I have a problem with "authority" figure's ( or so I'm told ) but something about your original avatar made me feel like I was suppose to listen to every word you said.

Fear ....?

No.       Awe!

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, July 1, 2018 5:43 PM

So if the ship has a power failure, those things blink "12:00"?

Nozzles do look right.

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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