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Castles of Steel, 1880 - 1914 *Group Build* (pg 17)...

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:10 PM

That's four!   Fermis sent me a message that he is also in with the Chinese battlecrusier---so that's FIVE!!!  Bondo??????????  The world wonders,,,

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:49 PM

What is this, some kind of battleship build-off?

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:52 PM

VanceCrozier

What is this, some kind of battleship build-off?

I believe they're duplicating the pre-WWI arms race...............

doesn't appear to ne limited to Battleships as most seem to be cruisers.

Just Sayin'

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:53 PM

B-9

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:54 PM

VanceCrozier

What is this, some kind of battleship build-off?

So much so that there has been a call to come to the treaty table for tonnage limitations...

So far my Squid Trawler Fleet can't exceed 100,000 tons...

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:54 PM

p38jl

B-9

They didn't have carriers....down to only three on the board

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:55 PM

Manstein's revenge

 

 VanceCrozier:

 

What is this, some kind of battleship build-off?

 

So much so that there has been a call to come to the treaty table for tonnage limitations...

 

So far my Squid Trawler Fleet can't exceed 100,000 tons...

The Japanese are already complaining............

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:55 PM

E-12

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:56 PM

I need a GB Badge...Vance?

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:58 PM

p38jl

E-12

Manny's submarine is in danger.

Would be nice to have a Holland sub kit of the same era..........

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:05 PM

P38jl - you just missed sinking my destroyer!Big Smile   My shot: A2...

Manny - shipbuilding showdown badge Yes - PM me the details & I'll assemble my crack team of design monkeys over the next couple of days.

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Posted by The Navigator on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:09 PM

How's this for a pic?

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:09 PM

Hmmmmmm...this will be my third Group Build in two years...maybe one day I will be considered a "serious" modeler...Angel

 

...Bondo?

......Bondo?

.........Bondo?

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:17 PM

The Navigator

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee367/TheNavigator71/great-white-fleet.jpg

How's this for a pic?

....looks like something is burning in the galley....

I love the look of the pre-WW1 ships, I'll be seriously lurking this one for sure.

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:17 PM

Manstein's revenge

Hmmmmmm...this will be my third Group Build in two years...maybe one day I will be considered a "serious" modeler...Angel

 

...Bondo?

......Bondo?

.........Bondo?

maybe we'll see a Manny build in his own GB ????Whistling

  Manny ?...

  ........Manny ?

 ..............Manny ???...Whistling

 

aah... don't kill me !!Storm

 

 

 

.............Manny ???...Whistling

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:18 PM

F-13

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:20 PM

p38jl

F-13

Blast - you got me!!! Captain

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Posted by The Navigator on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:24 PM

SHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:11 PM

I'm here, just really busy this week. I've sworn to finish the Emden by Friday.

 

Of course this Chinese Battleship, if it ever shows up, and next would be SMS Scharnhorst Combrig resin full hull in 1/350.

We'll see about that...

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Posted by EBergerud on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:14 PM

I didn't understand that the grand inspiration would be pre-WWI. The whole thing kind of melded into the war. And while it was the era of the Big Gun no doubt, everything was changing. The torpedo and how to deliver it was one of the hottest items in naval circles the world over. (The fine naval historian John Sumida has argued Fischer thought before 1914 that it would not be long before navies would junk dreadnoughts in favor of submarines, torpedo carriers of every kind and aircraft.)  Navies were among the first to buy military aircraft or even airships. I'd suggesting beginning a GB when sails were retired even if it was just to save coal (around 1880) and go through WWI. I know there are resin pre-war and wartime subs and torpedo-boat destroyers etc. I'd think there'd be room for pre-1918 naval airpower. Must be early CVs in resin. Couple of fleet use biplanes out there. The Great War GB was almost entirely biplane fighters and some tanks. Only two or three ships I can think of, not counting my soon to be launched Konig - I will be done before Armistice Day.

And don't worry about the Japanese - we've broken their code. They'll give in.

Eric

 

A model boat is much cheaper than a real one and won't sink with you in it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:07 PM

Okay, here's the Group Build rules:

1) Any ship launched between 1880 and 1914 that would be considered a battleship, crusier, battlecrusier, crusier or dreadnought.

2) Start date is 9-15-2011.  Ending date is 3-15-2012.

3) Vance Crozier is designing the GB badge.  Open to suggestions on the badge design and name of the GB since I am not a naval expert to the degree I am in other areas (although I did briefly serve as the German Naval attache' in Tokyo from 1936 thru 1937).    

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:53 AM

The Navigator

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee367/TheNavigator71/great-white-fleet.jpg

How's this for a pic?

Love the pic, just think once it is shrunk down to a badge size a lot will be lost in detail...maybe need one ship in the pic...???

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Posted by The Navigator on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:15 AM

How about these:

I did them as thumbs to better show them as badges.

I have many books and my Lair smells of rich mahogany!!! Stay thirsty my fellow MOJOs!




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Posted by The Navigator on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:17 AM

Here's an edited first pic:

I have many books and my Lair smells of rich mahogany!!! Stay thirsty my fellow MOJOs!




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Posted by p38jl on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:43 AM

here's one of the USS Maine.. she's supposed to be in the other pic, that someone just posted with all the ships at sea underway...

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here's another of the USS Maine memorial in Bangor Maine.. about 25 miles from my work..

Prolly not a good badge choise.. but nice looking.. its the scroll work from the bow of the MainePhotobucket:550:0]

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Posted by The Navigator on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:24 AM

Name for build:

Buff Yer Funnels- 19th & Early 20th Century Modern Navy Group Build

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Posted by p38jl on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:30 AM

The Navigator

Name for build:

Buff Yer Funnels- 19th & Early 20th Century Modern Navy Group Build

Yes

or....

Coal-Naughts- 19th & Early 20th Century Modern Navy Group Build  Whistling

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Posted by EBergerud on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:39 PM

I think that's a fine name: can't leave out the 20th century unless we leave Mikasa on the bench (at least historically) - and don't we want anyone to tackle Zvezda's Dreadnought?

As for the badge, the artist muse runs deeply on this forum. I hope, however, that we can think of something better than the Maine. I know it is a wargrave and brave men died. But a few years back on a naval list there was one of the periodic threads on the "worst warship in history." I made the argument (supported by only a few I admit) that the "worst warship" should always lead off with ships that blew up spontaneously at anchor. It's amazing, but there's a kind of cult around Mutsu in Japan - a BB that did almost nothing except blow up at anchor. Maine just picked an interested anchorage to blow-up in: but blow-up she did. How about a ship that fired a shell in anger even if it didn't hit anything?

Or maybe a Mikasa/Olympia montage: coal burners that made history without blowing up at anchor:

 

A model boat is much cheaper than a real one and won't sink with you in it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:45 PM

p38jl

 The Navigator:

Name for build:

Buff Yer Funnels- 19th & Early 20th Century Modern Navy Group Build

 

Yes

or....

Coal-Naughts- 19th & Early 20th Century Modern Navy Group Build  Whistling

"Drop Yer Anchor"...from sails to boilers...

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:25 PM

Castles of Steel.

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