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Castles of Steel, 1880 - 1914 *Group Build* (pg 17)...

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Posted by Tracy White on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:49 PM

bondoman
Castles of Steel.

aaaand watch the trademark/copyright take-down notices come in....

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:38 PM

Shredded Steel

Can't help thinking of the damage caused at the Battle of Jutland 

SMS Seydlitz. Showing her damage from the Battle of Jutland.

 

HMS Lion’s ‘Q’ turret showing the damage done to the turret top during the Battle of Jutland


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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:54 PM

bondoman

Castles of Steel.

Okay...get to work, Vance!

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:59 PM

Tracy White

 

 bondoman:
Castles of Steel.

 

aaaand watch the trademark/copyright take-down notices come in....

I thought about that, but it's a phrase in the public domain because Churchill wrote it in a letter in his position as First Lord..

Plus it goes back to Macabees.-EDIT oops, wrong quote.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:09 PM

bondoman

 Tracy White:

 

 bondoman:
Castles of Steel.

 

aaaand watch the trademark/copyright take-down notices come in....

 

I thought about that, but it's a phrase in the public domain because Churchill wrote it in a letter in his position as First Lord..

Plus it goes back to Macabees.

Yeah, that's right!

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Posted by p38jl on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:39 PM

EBergerud

I think that's a fine name: can't leave out the 20th century unless we leave Mikasa on the bench (at least historically) - and don't we want anyone to tackle Zvezda's Dreadnought?

As for the badge, the artist muse runs deeply on this forum. I hope, however, that we can think of something better than the Maine. I know it is a wargrave and brave men died. But a few years back on a naval list there was one of the periodic threads on the "worst warship in history." I made the argument (supported by only a few I admit) that the "worst warship" should always lead off with ships that blew up spontaneously at anchor. It's amazing, but there's a kind of cult around Mutsu in Japan - a BB that did almost nothing except blow up at anchor. Maine just picked an interested anchorage to blow-up in: but blow-up she did. How about a ship that fired a shell in anger even if it didn't hit anything?

Or maybe a Mikasa/Olympia montage: coal burners that made history without blowing up at anchor:

 

 

 

well.. I agree there may BE something of pic better than the Maine to use for GB Badge,, but just cause she blew up at anchor, doesnt make it the worst.Huh?.. and me being from Maine... well ya know..Yes

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Posted by EBergerud on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:13 PM

Maine's a lovely state, but virtue has nothing to do with the fortunes of ships honoring the home town. I'm from the Twin Cities. The only BB Minnesota was sold for scrap in what seems to have been record time. An earlier frigate had to be saved by a floating wheel of cheese from the hands of Virginia. The USS Minneapolis played a prime role in the battle of Tassafaronga which I think even tops Savo as the worst day in the office for the USN in 200+ years of history. At least at Savo the Japanese force was very powerful and had surprise. At Tassafaronga the US force was very powerful, had surprise and still managed to utterly whipped by a few IJN cans. (And like Maine, no Minnesota team has won a Super Bowl: of course we've had a NFL team for fifty years.) I think there's a Minnesota coming to the sub fleet - hope it has better luck than "Minnie."

Eric

 

A model boat is much cheaper than a real one and won't sink with you in it.

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Posted by p38jl on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:20 PM

well... Eric. ya got me beat on the info...BTW,, Maine does have Sub still in service last I knew..

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:32 PM

Somewhere Gary Cuozzo is signing autographs.

Here's a lot of fun.

http://www.friesian.com/dreadnot.htm

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Posted by The Navigator on Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:39 PM

Do you want more pics Vance?

I have many books and my Lair smells of rich mahogany!!! Stay thirsty my fellow MOJOs!




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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:50 PM

Vance?

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Posted by The Navigator on Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:53 PM

Yes. For the badge. 

I have many books and my Lair smells of rich mahogany!!! Stay thirsty my fellow MOJOs!




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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:01 AM

Waiting on Vance for the GB badge----he must be busy inflating his post-count....

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:04 AM

I doubt his Hausfrau objects..........

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Posted by bondoman on Sunday, September 18, 2011 1:13 AM

whaaa.. does sleeping with your wife count as a post???????

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 18, 2011 8:20 AM

bondoman

whaaa.. does sleeping with your wife count as a post???????

 

Depends on what you mean by "sleeping with"....

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, September 18, 2011 3:46 PM

Here is a decent view of the wood deck installed with the covers removed from the main guns for those who were interested.

Eric

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:32 PM

Jester75

Here is a decent view of the wood deck installed with the covers removed from the main guns for those who were interested.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MK1-1-350-TING-YUEN-Wooden-Deck-Bronco-MD35020-/00/$(KGrHqV,!hEE2f02p32KBN5hsn0(7Q~~_3.JPG

Very cool...

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 19, 2011 8:49 AM

Manstein's revenge

 Jester75:

Here is a decent view of the wood deck installed with the covers removed from the main guns for those who were interested.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MK1-1-350-TING-YUEN-Wooden-Deck-Bronco-MD35020-/00/$(KGrHqV,!hEE2f02p32KBN5hsn0(7Q~~_3.JPG

 

Very cool...

Very, very cool!

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Posted by The Navigator on Monday, September 19, 2011 9:35 AM

What's the thickness of that deck? You sand it down thinner before using, correct?

I like the turret inside, lots of possibilities there Big Smile

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Posted by Jester75 on Monday, September 19, 2011 9:42 AM

I noticed the thickness of the deck also. It obscures some of the details it is designed to fit around. Not sure if its sandable on the bottom because alot of the newer decks come self adhesive. Mabye you could sand it on the top, but I wonder how deep the laser etchings go???

Eric

 

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Posted by The Navigator on Monday, September 19, 2011 9:49 AM

Probably not that deep. I'd prefer them to leave the adhesive off just to allow the sanding. Anyone going through that much effort knows how to glue a board to a piece of plastic or can find out pretty quickly.

I have many books and my Lair smells of rich mahogany!!! Stay thirsty my fellow MOJOs!




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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, September 19, 2011 10:01 AM

Manstein's revenge

 

 bondoman:

 

 

 Tracy White:

 

 bondoman:
Castles of Steel.

 

aaaand watch the trademark/copyright take-down notices come in....

 

I thought about that, but it's a phrase in the public domain because Churchill wrote it in a letter in his position as First Lord..

 

Plus it goes back to Macabees.

 

Yeah, that's right!

 

Castles of Steel it is then?

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 19, 2011 10:19 AM

VanceCrozier

 Manstein's revenge:

 

 bondoman:

 

 

 Tracy White:

 

 bondoman:
Castles of Steel.

 

aaaand watch the trademark/copyright take-down notices come in....

 

I thought about that, but it's a phrase in the public domain because Churchill wrote it in a letter in his position as First Lord..

 

Plus it goes back to Macabees.

 

Yeah, that's right!

 

 

Castles of Steel it is then?

Yes, let's go with "Castles of Steel,1880 - 1914"

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 19, 2011 10:54 AM

Manstein's revenge

 Manstein's revenge:

 Jester75:

Here is a decent view of the wood deck installed with the covers removed from the main guns for those who were interested.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MK1-1-350-TING-YUEN-Wooden-Deck-Bronco-MD35020-/00/$(KGrHqV,!hEE2f02p32KBN5hsn0(7Q~~_3.JPG

 

Bondo, there's your money shot on those cannon breeches...

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Posted by EBergerud on Monday, September 19, 2011 4:19 PM

If we're really afraid of lawyers, we could try "Castles of Steel - With Bits of Wood: 1880-1914"

Actually maybe the name will encourage those who haven't read the book to do so. In my humble, Robert Massie is the best popular historian since Barbara Tuchman. His bio on Peter made a bad movie but is a really good book: Dreadnought is the best of the lot. I'd swear the guy actually did some research before writing. All used to be on audio book but like so many of the great Recorded Books they never made the transition to CD. (Better steer clear if you don't like Jellicoe though. Massie's defense is very well put, but it's hard to neglect the possible impact of a major British victory on German morale in 1916-17. If he would have "combed the wake" instead of turned away from the DDs, those big Brit guns would have been nasty beasts in a sustained engagement. Or maybe three Dreds would have their bows blown off.)

Eric

 

A model boat is much cheaper than a real one and won't sink with you in it.

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Posted by EBergerud on Monday, September 19, 2011 4:25 PM

Jester:

Looks good. What brand of deck? I'm pretty sure I'm going to do Oregon but I still have Varyag, Ting Yuen and Mikasa in the stash and think wood decks are out there for the lot.

Eric

 

A model boat is much cheaper than a real one and won't sink with you in it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 19, 2011 4:45 PM

EBergerud

If we're really afraid of lawyers, we could try "Castles of Steel - With Bits of Wood: 1880-1914"

Actually maybe the name will encourage those who haven't read the book to do so.

 

I'm good with that as well...waiting on Vance to pull him away from his HO so he can work on a GB Badge...

...Vance?

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Posted by Jester75 on Monday, September 19, 2011 5:39 PM

EBergerud

Jester:

Looks good. What brand of deck? I'm pretty sure I'm going to do Oregon but I still have Varyag, Ting Yuen and Mikasa in the stash and think wood decks are out there for the lot.

Sorry Eric, didn't mean to allude that was my work. Looks to be made by a company callled MK1 designs?? Its a stock photo from eBay.

I'll be honest, wood decks are cool and all, but after seeing on my Chih Yuen build what can be achieve with paint and some oils, I may really steer clear of them. Except of course on my Academy Graf Spee that came with a wooden deck. Wink

Eric

 

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Posted by fermis on Monday, September 19, 2011 5:54 PM

 I'll be joining in with the Chen Yuen and wooden deck. In the photo above, the deck does look thick, but it is actually quite thin. Maybe as thick as 2/3 sheets of regular computer paper. The etchings are quite shallow (too shallow for sanding) and it does have self adhesive. The pic above may just be a dry fit?????

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