1,000 Roadwheels - 2009

Cool! I wonder whene that kit will come out? maby half way throu this build.......

Dupes,

 Took a look at the roster on page 1 and saw that nobody had the F1.  So given that we've got a full year to complete this GB, put me down also for the Panzer IV F1, which I have on order from the LHS.  Afrika Corps 1941-2!

 Don

Bish wrote:

detailfreak wrote:  Bish wrote:  tigerman wrote: I just put in an order for some Cavalier zimmerit for my J. From my intelligence report, the Tamiya J is more of an early and very hard to distinguish from an H. The biggest tell-tale evidence is 3 return rollers compared to 4 on the H. My schurzen says H, but are very similar to the J too. I might just fake an H and place it Normandy. Were J's used in Normandy as one might suspect? I do believe that the only deifference between the H and the first J was that the J had a larger fuel tank, so from the outside they were the same. Then as usual with German vehicles, changes were made during its production. The 4th return roller wasn't removed until ltater in the production run. I think you could get away with useing the tamiya J as an H. The J didn't enter production until June 44, so you might have had a few later on in the Normandy p] compaign, but not early on.the osprey book,in the new vanguard series covering the g,h and j,gives quite alot of info. on the time of changes, updates and such.for instance many j's retained the four return roller configuration.alot of useful info. for building a j model.oh that isbn. #1-84176-183-4.[tu Thats one thing i like about the NV range, they give a month by month account of the changes made to German vehicles. I don't have the Pz IV one yet, but its nice top know it sticks to that format. I am guessing that alot of J's were built on older hull's that were in stock and some may have even been Ausf's H's rturned to the factory after mager damage.

Hi Everyone,

Can I jump in with a Tamiya 1/48 (that's right 1/48)  Panzer IV Ausf J please ? This will be my first 1/48 Armor build. I'm happy to provide a photo of the unstarted kit if you like.

Cheers

Tony Mollica

Taxtp - consider yourself added with a 1/48 J. Welcome to the build!

Pordoi - added your F1 - took a couple of liberties with kit details, am assuming it's the newer DML 1/35 as opposed to the older Italeri release. Let me know if I'm in error there. So what're you thinking, build the Bruckenleger, extend the bridge, have the F1 driving over it...?

Was perusing the build list on page one - if things work out as planned for everyone, we will have a GREAT collection of builds covering almost all of the available variants. Only a few missing that I can tell.

Ausf. C - if no one else jumps on this, I'll do it after my B.
Mobelwagen - I know someone was talking about getting on this not too long ago.
Hornisse - ???
LeFH18/1 Gw IV b (Sd.Kfz.165/1) - ???
Leichte Feldhaubitze “Heuschreke 10” - ???
Munitionstrager auf Fahrgestell III/IV - ???
Panzerkampfwagen IV 88mm - ???

Some juicy new DML/Trumpeter kits to cover these...anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

 Hey Dupes,

 I checked page one and the entire thread. Thought I signed up for this GB. I Didn't realize it begins Jan. 1. With that being said would it be possible for me to join in with the C-H Brummbar (Early)

 I promise not to post too many pics!

 Mobious

dupes wrote:

added your F1 - took a couple of liberties with kit details, am assuming it's the newer DML 1/35 as opposed to the older Italeri release. Let me know if I'm in error there. So what're you thinking, build the Bruckenleger, extend the bridge, have the F1 driving over it...?

Yes, the newer re-tooled DML F1 kit; DML6315.  Figured that after sweeping across France, the Bruckenleger would extend a bridge across the Mediterranean allowing the F1 direct access to Libya.  The way Rommel should have been re-supplied...

Actually, I picked up a set of Bison decals for Afrikacorps F1/F2/G PIVs and it shows an F1 in gray basecoat, oversprayed with sand yellow with Graugrun camo.  Thought that it had possibilities.  Have a Happy holiday.

 Don

dupes wrote:

Was perusing the build list on page one - if things work out as planned for everyone, we will have a GREAT collection of builds covering almost all of the available variants. Only a few missing that I can tell. Ausf. C - if no one else jumps on this, I'll do it after my B. Mobelwagen - I know someone was talking about getting on this not too long ago. Hornisse - ??? LeFH18/1 Gw IV b (Sd.Kfz.165/1) - ??? Leichte Feldhaubitze “Heuschreke 10” - ??? Munitionstrager auf Fahrgestell III/IV - ??? Panzerkampfwagen IV 88mm - ??? Some juicy new DML/Trumpeter kits to cover these...anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

dupes, what's a Panzerkampfwagen IV 88mm?

I also noticed that the Jagdpanzer IV/70A Alkett version "Zwischenlosung" has not been chosen to be represented yet!  Its an interesting design:

Hmmmm......... 

Oooops!!!!!

Hope I'm not to late to join up, can't believe I missed the thread.

I know it's already being done but can you put me down for Tamiya's Jagdpanzer IV and Revell's Nashorn in 1/72. Was thinking about doing the Dragon Nashorn (D), but it would be my first Dragon kit, and it would be a shame to screw it up.

Mark

stick man wrote:

The viacal at th etop of this page is it a IV variant? it says gesutswagen III/IV. http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/newkitnews/dragon.htm

And look, they are releasing a Panther with Panzer IV turret. Now does that count for this GB i wounder. I was going to kit bash one of thsoe but now i am saved

Dupes without trying to over commit myself, seeing as i have just recieved the Lion roar 3.7cm Flak 43, if i have enough time i might add the Modelwagen to my list.

detailfreak wrote:

Bish wrote:  detailfreak wrote:  Bish wrote:  tigerman wrote: I just put in an order for some Cavalier zimmerit for my J. From my intelligence report, the Tamiya J is more of an early and very hard to distinguish from an H. The biggest tell-tale evidence is 3 return rollers compared to 4 on the H. My schurzen says H, but are very similar to the J too. I might just fake an H and place it Normandy. Were J's used in Normandy as one might suspect? I do believe that the only deifference between the H and the first J was that the J had a larger fuel tank, so from the outside they were the same. Then as usual with German vehicles, changes were made during its production. The 4th return roller wasn't removed until ltater in the production run. I think you could get away with useing the tamiya J as an H. The J didn't enter production until June 44, so you might have had a few later on in the Normandy p] compaign, but not early on.the osprey book,in the new vanguard series covering the g,h and j,gives quite alot of info. on the time of changes, updates and such.for instance many j's retained the four return roller configuration.alot of useful info. for building a j model.oh that isbn. #1-84176-183-4.[tu Thats one thing i like about the NV range, they give a month by month account of the changes made to German vehicles. I don't have the Pz IV one yet, but its nice top know it sticks to that format. I am guessing that alot of J's were built on older hull's that were in stock and some may have even been Ausf's H's rturned to the factory after mager damage. the new vanguard series book states the easiest way to tell the j from the others is the omitting of the small two stroke engine muffler on the left upper corner as seen from the rear.this was the muffler for the two stroke engine that powered the traverse.a square plate with four bolts covered the hole in the rear plate in early j's.great info. in this book.

Thank you, i knew there had to be some external difference between the two. The books on my to get list.

Jester75 wrote:

Looks like its time to break out the Aves ApoxieSculpt and loose my zimm virginity!! Count me in with DML's StuG IV Late. Got some sweet goodies coming for this one also that should be here by the time this group builds starts!

 Sounds cool Jester, ya got me thinking I might change to the DML Brummbar (late) just to do a zimmed vehicle. That is if I can get in on this GB?

 Mobious

Bish wrote:

detailfreak wrote:  Bish wrote:  detailfreak wrote:  Bish wrote:  tigerman wrote: I just put in an order for some Cavalier zimmerit for my J. From my intelligence report, the Tamiya J is more of an early and very hard to distinguish from an H. The biggest tell-tale evidence is 3 return rollers compared to 4 on the H. My schurzen says H, but are very similar to the J too. I might just fake an H and place it Normandy. Were J's used in Normandy as one might suspect? I do believe that the only deifference between the H and the first J was that the J had a larger fuel tank, so from the outside they were the same. Then as usual with German vehicles, changes were made during its production. The 4th return roller wasn't removed until ltater in the production run. I think you could get away with useing the tamiya J as an H. The J didn't enter production until June 44, so you might have had a few later on in the Normandy p] compaign, but not early on.the osprey book,in the new vanguard series covering the g,h and j,gives quite alot of info. on the time of changes, updates and such.for instance many j's retained the four return roller configuration.alot of useful info. for building a j model.oh that isbn. #1-84176-183-4.[tu Thats one thing i like about the NV range, they give a month by month account of the changes made to German vehicles. I don't have the Pz IV one yet, but its nice top know it sticks to that format. I am guessing that alot of J's were built on older hull's that were in stock and some may have even been Ausf's H's rturned to the factory after mager damage. the new vanguard series book states the easiest way to tell the j from the others is the omitting of the small two stroke engine muffler on the left upper corner as seen from the rear.this was the muffler for the two stroke engine that powered the traverse.a square plate with four bolts covered the hole in the rear plate in early j's.great info. in this book. Thank you, i knew there had to be some external difference between the two. The books on my to get list.

Mobious wrote:

Jester75 wrote: Looks like its time to break out the Aves ApoxieSculpt and loose my zimm virginity!! Count me in with DML's StuG IV Late. Got some sweet goodies coming for this one also that should be here by the time this group builds starts!  Sounds cool Jester, ya got me thinking I might change to the DML Brummbar (late) just to do a zimmed vehicle. That is if I can get in on this GB?  Mobious

No reason why you shouldn't! If you can, dig up Doog's tutorial on his building of the Brummbar, because he did some tweaking to it. It may or may not help.

Eric, I look forward to your zimmerit techniques, you have more guts then I do.

tigerman wrote:

Mobious wrote:  Jester75 wrote: Looks like its time to break out the Aves ApoxieSculpt and loose my zimm virginity!! Count me in with DML's StuG IV Late. Got some sweet goodies coming for this one also that should be here by the time this group builds starts!  Sounds cool Jester, ya got me thinking I might change to the DML Brummbar (late) just to do a zimmed vehicle. That is if I can get in on this GB?  Mobious No reason why you shouldn't! If you can, dig up Doog's tutorial on his building of the Brummbar, because he did some tweaking to it. It may or may not help. Eric, I look forward to your zimmerit techniques, you have more guts then I do.

 thanks tigerman,

 Doog really turned out an awsome sturmpanzer. I love the ostkettens. Reminded me of a snow cat. I too have the older 6026 kit that's been settin in the stash for over a year or so. There were better pics of his mods over on amorama. Never even noticed the three return rollers until I checked the instructions.

 Thanks for the heads up on this kit.

 Mobious

detailfreak wrote:

Bish wrote:  detailfreak wrote:  Bish wrote:  detailfreak wrote:  Bish wrote:  tigerman wrote: I just put in an order for some Cavalier zimmerit for my J. From my intelligence report, the Tamiya J is more of an early and very hard to distinguish from an H. The biggest tell-tale evidence is 3 return rollers compared to 4 on the H. My schurzen says H, but are very similar to the J too. I might just fake an H and place it Normandy. Were J's used in Normandy as one might suspect? I do believe that the only deifference between the H and the first J was that the J had a larger fuel tank, so from the outside they were the same. Then as usual with German vehicles, changes were made during its production. The 4th return roller wasn't removed until ltater in the production run. I think you could get away with useing the tamiya J as an H. The J didn't enter production until June 44, so you might have had a few later on in the Normandy p] compaign, but not early on.the osprey book,in the new vanguard series covering the g,h and j,gives quite alot of info. on the time of changes, updates and such.for instance many j's retained the four return roller configuration.alot of useful info. for building a j model.oh that isbn. #1-84176-183-4.[tu Thats one thing i like about the NV range, they give a month by month account of the changes made to German vehicles. I don't have the Pz IV one yet, but its nice top know it sticks to that format. I am guessing that alot of J's were built on older hull's that were in stock and some may have even been Ausf's H's rturned to the factory after mager damage. the new vanguard series book states the easiest way to tell the j from the others is the omitting of the small two stroke engine muffler on the left upper corner as seen from the rear.this was the muffler for the two stroke engine that powered the traverse.a square plate with four bolts covered the hole in the rear plate in early j's.great info. in this book. Thank you, i knew there had to be some external difference between the two. The books on my to get list. i ordered mine new from amazon using paypal,they also had used copies.oh,and the j did recieve a larger capacity fuel tank at first,the tanks were leaky and thus dropped from production until the problem was remedied.the book also has photos of some with zimmerit and some without.this seemed to depend on were the j was built.

Those without Zim would also have been vehicles built after the Germans stopped appliying it, about Sept 1944 i believe.

 Hey dupes,

 I think the DML Sturmpanzer IV (late) 6026 will be the kit. Already have a LR PE set for it. Should be good to go. Will pick up some better reference material for it. All I have on the SturmPzIV is Spielberger's. Not much reference on the this particular subject.

 Thanks for your patience,

 Mobious

Count me in. I just ordered a Dragon Jagdpanzer IV A/O for the build.I don't think I will start it imediatly though. I want to build Tamiya's Greif first. I want to take a break from Dragons...

Erik

Just a few more days to kick off.  I got all the goodies out for a look see to make sure all my ducks were in a row. I even had a set of Magic Tracks left over from when I used Fruils aon aprevious build so I won't have to use the rubber band ones. Hope they fit the drive sprocket.

How much difference between a G and an H?  I have a PE set for the DML G and was hoping it would translate to the Tamiya .

Hey Dupes

I hope I am not too late. Sign me up This will be my second GB and fourth kit to start. I need to order a kit, I am kind of leaning towards the DML 6360 Pz. IV Ausf. F2/G. Call me crazy for trying this. I need to step out of my comfort zone and push my limits.

Jeff

wing_nut wrote:

Just a few more days to kick off.  I got all the goodies out for a look see to make sure all my ducks were in a row.

Marc, breath deeply.  In.... Out....   If you sprint out of the blocks and finish this one in 2 weeks like ya did with the 251, what's going on for the remaining 50 weeks of this GB? 

 Don

wing_nut wrote:

Just a few more days to kick off.  I got all the goodies out for a look see to make sure all my ducks were in a row. I even had a set of Magic Tracks left over from when I used Fruils aon aprevious build so I won't have to use the rubber band ones. Hope they fit the drive sprocket. How much difference between a G and an H?  I have a PE set for the DML G and was hoping it would translate to the Tamiya .

Marc, I'm curious to see if those Magic tracks work on your Tamiya kit. Great if it does. did you try one or two links around the sprocket?

I have a similar setup (sort of) to yours Marc: Cav zim, Eduard schurzen, but I have the J. I just finished washing mine and it's quietly drying. I think this kit has a perfect amount of pieces, not too many. LOL I'm really stoked on this and all do apologies to Scott Espins and his GB which I temporarily bailed on. I will work on finishing that Pak 40 though. Scouts Honor. Oh.......I wasn't a scout.

pordoi wrote:

wing_nut wrote: Just a few more days to kick off.  I got all the goodies out for a look see to make sure all my ducks were in a row.   Marc, breath deeply.  In.... Out....   If you sprint out of the blocks and finish this one in 2 weeks like ya did with the 251, what's going on for the remaining 50 weeks of this GB?   Don

  I had to breathe into a brown paper bag for a few minutes at one point today so I didn't hyperventilate  I did the smae thing for theRed Storm GB, the 251 GB and the Big Cat GB... built right out of the gate.  Where's the fun in that  I don't think this will be a 2 weeker though.

TMan no i have not tried them yet.  i iwll do that now.  That won't be considered a "start" will it

SMJ,

Don't know how Marc is planning to attach the resin zim, but when I used Cav zim on a Panther A, I glued it using a 30 minute epoxy, which started to tack up pretty well after about 5 minutes.  So there's plenty of time to position and chase out any bubbles that you might catch underneath when applying.  The epoxy I used was pretty thick stuff, so one needs to be careful about trapping bubbles.  But they are easy to remove if you do.  Then after setting, the edges can be sealed with a thin CA if necessary. 

 Don