Knights of the Sky II- The End

ludwig113 wrote:

blimey,if most people carry on the way there going this GB will be over by the end of januaryjanuary! i think some people should be naming their 3rd and 4th kits

 I wouldn't worry about the GB coming to a premature end... You lot have got to wait for me to finish me Pfalz DIII. There ain't gonna be anything premature about that.... Sloooooow builder syndrome afflicted

Von Buckle

Im sort of at the point where i need to paint the prop. Has anyone got a good link on a toot to paint the wood effect/ I can do wooden floors but id like a neater laminated look. Any help would be great. Cheers.

...Guy

Here is a pic of the Gotha Boxart, It sure does capture the Imagination .

Guy I posted in the thread you started in the aircraft forum but it was pushed of the front page and I think you missed it. I would like to sign up and have a go at the 1/48 Eduard Fokker DVII that was recomended by you and Mike. Be ready I will have many questions as I do not know much about these birds. I can not start for a bit because of the other GB but I definetly want in on this GB. I hope to learn alot from you guys. So if you would add me to the front page and I will do my best to make you proud.

                                                                                        Soulcrusher

soulcrusher wrote:

Guy I posted in the thread you started in the aircraft forum but it was pushed of the front page and I think you missed it. I would like to sign up and have a go at the 1/48 Eduard Fokker DVII that was recomended by you and Mike. Be ready I will have many questions as I do not know much about these birds. I can not start for a bit because of the other GB but I definetly want in on this GB. I hope to learn alot from you guys. So if you would add me to the front page and I will do my best to make you proud.                                                                                         Soulcrusher

SC- I added you to the roster on page one, can't wait to see your Fokker WIP pics!  Glad I could lure you onto another GB.

Mobious- Sounds like that kit has given you fits!  She really looks beautiful in the pics, but I'll wait to update page 1 showing her completion until you fix the ailerons.  Funny, I didn't even see it on the Albatros!

Guy- You're decalling already?  Holy guacomoly you're fast.  I haven't even started my Albatros yet, let alone my MC.200.   Looks great, even the cockpit photo.   As for painting the prop, Stephen posted a link over at KOTS I on the subject.  Hopefully, he can shed some light on the technique.

gary- another great tip, thank you!  I may trry to find some of that material you mentioned at Gander Mountain.

Graham-  Good deal!  Looking forward to seeing those pics.

ludwig- No worries mate!  I'm here, and at my build pace I'll be lucky to finish by the dealine.

Bob- I have the same syndrome!  I'll be right here building along with you to the bitter end.

Sean- Ah, yes... Aurora box art- VERY cool! 

Luftwoller wrote:

I'm sort of at the point where i need to paint the prop. Has anyone got a good link on a toot to paint the wood effect/ I can do wooden floors but id like a neater laminated look. Any help would be great. Cheers....Guy

 Here is a bit of fun on that subject.

Click Here.

Thx all for the usefull info. Stephen, great article, my friend and thankyou. Thats my mission this morning. Prop painting. The eduard kit gives you enough props to practice with LOL. I think ill save the carving idea for another day.

...Guy 

ludwig113 wrote:

ok,so maybe i started a little early as well!,but only a couple of days i'm doing the fokker dr.1 dual combo and i thought as i'm doing one i might as well build both at the same time.one has a lighter interior than the other as i didn't know which one i would like and very slight weathering. i havn't decided on the colour schemes yet but one will probably be udets. p.s. i can see i'm going to end up buying a couple more of these dr.1 dual combo kits as they go together really well.

I'm doing an Eduard Dr1 also, I have the combp, but just building one at the moment. Ludwig - any clues on the 'streaky olive green finish '? I haven't built a WW1 kit for about 30 years ! Having fun with wood graining. Light brown overpainted with clear orange seems to be working well.

Cheers

Simon L wrote:

ludwig113 wrote: ok,so maybe i started a little early as well!,but only a couple of days i'm doing the fokker dr.1 dual combo and i thought as i'm doing one i might as well build both at the same time.one has a lighter interior than the other as i didn't know which one i would like and very slight weathering. i havn't decided on the colour schemes yet but one will probably be udets. p.s. i can see i'm going to end up buying a couple more of these dr.1 dual combo kits as they go together really well.   I'm doing an Eduard Dr1 also, I have the combp, but just building one at the moment. Ludwig - any clues on the 'streaky olive green finish '? I haven't built a WW1 kit for about 30 years ! Having fun with wood graining. Light brown overpainted with clear orange seems to be working well. Cheers

hi,

i've actually got some "streaky" decals that i'm going to use,there not totally correct but i really like them.

if your painting by hand,the base colour should be "doped linen" with the olive green steaks over the top.

i also went the easier route with the wood grain as well by using decals

jgeratic1 wrote:

". . .Any of you have problems seeing Stephen's posted photos?  Even the Aeroscale site he links, I can't see those either. . . -Jack  "

Greetings Jack it might be your settings or your server.

Here is the progress on my Fokker.

Any comments?

Well Frank no Fokker DVII at the hobby store so I am going to use my gift certificate and have them order one. Should have it in about a week. I can't wait to see what lies in store for me!

                                                                                  Soulcrusher

 Hey daywalker, Sorry about not posting pics yesterday. Seriously off day! The kit went together really well, needed a little sanding to adjust the fit, a few strips of stretched sprue and Tenax 7 to fill a couple pin holes. Minor stuff. Most of the problems I had were self induced I've tried some new techniques with the weathering.

 Luftwoller, That's one of the many problem areas I have. Tried masking the lamenation lines on this build, but I didn't get enough contrast and the oil paints obscured them. I had planned on a lighter color prop similar to the struts, but all the restored aircraft photos I have show a darker prop. Another issue is getting a scaled down gloss laquer finish without being overwhelming.

 Summit, looking forward to seeing that kit. Looks like an awesome kit.

 Here are the pics of the Camel after fixing the aerolon positions and changing the stretched prue for more monofilament line...

 Thanks for checking in,

 Mobious

Graham- From what I can see it looks good!  The photos are quite blurry though, obscuring most of the detail.  Can you adjust your camera settings?

SC- Bummer there's no instant gratification for you!  Glad they are ordering one for you.  I must admit- all this talk about D.VII's is REALLY making me want to add one to my stash.

Mobious- OMG!  That is a seriously gorgeous Camel!  How did you weather that one?  I like the faded, streaky look of the green.  The earth tones on the lower wings are very well done, blending the aircraft nicely with the base.  Can you explain your weathering techniques?  I would love to know how you did it.

And, congratulations for the first completed build here!  I updated page one for you.

 Hey daywalker, I was trying not to make it look like a tank with wings. Had to change the whole program. All of the techniques I used are found here on the Forums or over on Aeroscale, I just modified a few to fit my limited abilities. The washes were done with acrylics, instead of the oils that I had been using. The key to using acrylics, I'd read, was to add a drop of dish soap. Careful not to stir bubbles when applying. Also had to be careful of IVM's(invisible water marks). They're easy to remove, just hard for me to spot.

 The upper wing fabric was done with masking, then drybrushed(in the direction of airflow), followed by a sealer coat, then washes,then a final dullcoat sealer. The bottom fabric was done in a similar fashon. Thanks for the generous words and the help. OBTW, the Future really did the trick. I am now an official convert of the School of Future. I think I now have as many cleaning supplies in the bunker as I do in the laundry room.

 Best Regards,

 Mobious

That is one serious-looking Camel, mobious! The weathering techniques you used are tastefully done, not too understated and not overwhelming. My hat's off to you sir for an excellent build!

....and I have to admit I'm a recent convert to using acrylic washes. My current fave is Tamiya smoke thinned with their thinner (excellent at breaking up surface tension), with a small drop of black or dark grey added if I need a bit more contrast, applied over a cured clear coat of Future. So far I've been very impressed with the results.

I did not get as much done today as I hoped to. Have one engine housing almost completed, lots of flash, uneven seams and other little imperfections needed to be cleaned up. Here is a pre ~paint pic.

  I built this same kit 20 some years ago and always wanted to do another hopefully better. I drilled out the exhaust and believe it or not thinned up the prop quite a bit.

When I was growing up on the ranch we had a engine similar to this on a irrigation well, except instead of having a prop there was a big pulley and belt (about 10" wide) It sure sounded neat when it ran !

Bobs Buckles wrote:

ludwig113 wrote: blimey,if most people carry on the way there going this GB will be over by the end of januaryjanuary! i think some people should be naming their 3rd and 4th kits  I wouldn't worry about the GB coming to a premature end... You lot have got to wait for me to finish me Pfalz DIII. There ain't gonna be anything premature about that.... Sloooooow builder syndrome afflicted Von Buckle

I've yet to start as the first thing I needed was paint, and guess what they LHS was out of! Should be here in few days. I'm going to start work on the cockpit tomorrow (I hope), but will be stalled out from there. I move about as fast as mud!

gary

Daywalker wrote:

soulcrusher wrote: Guy I posted in the thread you started in the aircraft forum but it was pushed of the front page and I think you missed it. I would like to sign up and have a go at the 1/48 Eduard Fokker DVII that was recomended by you and Mike. Be ready I will have many questions as I do not know much about these birds. I can not start for a bit because of the other GB but I definetly want in on this GB. I hope to learn alot from you guys. So if you would add me to the front page and I will do my best to make you proud.                                                                                         Soulcrusher SC- I added you to the roster on page one, can't wait to see your Fokker WIP pics!  Glad I could lure you onto another GB. Mobious- Sounds like that kit has given you fits!  She really looks beautiful in the pics, but I'll wait to update page 1 showing her completion until you fix the ailerons.  Funny, I didn't even see it on the Albatros! Guy- You're decalling already?  Holy guacomoly you're fast.  I haven't even started my Albatros yet, let alone my MC.200.   Looks great, even the cockpit photo.   As for painting the prop, Stephen posted a link over at KOTS I on the subject.  Hopefully, he can shed some light on the technique. gary- another great tip, thank you!  I may trry to find some of that material you mentioned at Gander Mountain. Graham-  Good deal!  Looking forward to seeing those pics. ludwig- No worries mate!  I'm here, and at my build pace I'll be lucky to finish by the dealine. Bob- I have the same syndrome!  I'll be right here building along with you to the bitter end. Sean- Ah, yes... Aurora box art- VERY cool!

if yur gander Mountain dosn't carry it (mine does), you can also order it from Cabalas. Beware that if you go with the 5x thru 6x stuff you'll want good lighting as this stuff is very thin. Just don't buy the premade leaders as they are tapered. You want what they often refer to as tippet material. If you'd like, I can send you about ten feet of the stuff in the mail. I have enough laying around for three lifetimes of use.

gary

ludwig113 wrote:

Simon L wrote:  ludwig113 wrote: ok,so maybe i started a little early as well!,but only a couple of days i'm doing the fokker dr.1 dual combo and i thought as i'm doing one i might as well build both at the same time.one has a lighter interior than the other as i didn't know which one i would like and very slight weathering. i havn't decided on the colour schemes yet but one will probably be udets. p.s. i can see i'm going to end up buying a couple more of these dr.1 dual combo kits as they go together really well.   I'm doing an Eduard Dr1 also, I have the combp, but just building one at the moment. Ludwig - any clues on the 'streaky olive green finish '? I haven't built a WW1 kit for about 30 years ! Having fun with wood graining. Light brown overpainted with clear orange seems to be working well. Cheers   hi, i've actually got some "streaky" decals that i'm going to use,there not totally correct but i really like them. if your painting by hand,the base colour should be "doped linen" with the olive green steaks over the top. i also went the easier route with the wood grain as well by using decals

just a note: I found dope linen in the Poly Scale rack along with the Fokker dark green (505038). But alas they were out of the doped linen! Does anybody sell wood grain decales? Something like you might want to use on a Albatross.

gary

Mobious wrote:

Mobious, Nicely Done!

Another set of great photos, Mobious. I love the weathering. Top marks big boy.

...Guy

squeakie wrote:

if yur gander Mountain dosn't carry it (mine does), you can also order it from Cabalas. Beware that if you go with the 5x thru 6x stuff you'll want good lighting as this stuff is very thin. Just don't buy the premade leaders as they are tapered. You want what they often refer to as tippet material. If you'd like, I can send you about ten feet of the stuff in the mail. I have enough laying around for three lifetimes of use. gary

I actually drove past where Gander Mountain "used" to be yesterday!  They closed it evidently.

Gary- PM inbound!

Mobious- Glad to hear that the Future is looking good for you!   I used to hate the stuff, and was irritated by how much praise was lavished upon it.  Then, after learning how to apply it properly, I must say it is one of my favorite products to use.  Glad you are enjoying it as well!

Seriously good looking Camel Mobious, except where it 'bought the farm' in that last photo

It doesn't look like a 'flying tank' to me at all, it looks quite realistic and the scale appearance is good. The finish is exceptional, in my opinion.

Whilst I'm at it, does anyone know of any photos of AFC Sopwith Pups (I think the AFC flew 3 Pups in total) or RFC/RNAS Pups flown by Australians ?

There are some here: http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/camouflage-markings/25776-early-afc-nose-art-sopwith-pup-b2509.html but no decals available for it. I also have a color illustration in a book called 'Australian Flying Corps 1919-45' by Charles Schaedel, again no decals, but I'd really love to base my model on a photo, if there are any around.

Cheers

Tony

taxtp wrote:

Seriously good looking Camel Mobious, except where it 'bought the farm' in that last photo It doesn't look like a 'flying tank' to me at all, it looks quite realistic and the scale appearance is good. The finish is exceptional, in my opinion. Whilst I'm at it, does anyone know of any photos of AFC Sopwith Pups (I think the AFC flew 3 Pups in total) or RFC/RNAS Pups flown by Australians ? There are some here: http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/camouflage-markings/25776-early-afc-nose-art-sopwith-pup-b2509.html but no decals available for it. I also have a color illustration in a book called 'Australian Flying Corps 1919-45' by Charles Schaedel, again no decals, but I'd really love to base my model on a photo, if there are any around. Cheers Tony

Tony - the RAAF museum has a Pup - http://www.raaf.gov.au/raafmuseum/exhibitions/restoration/sopwith.htm

May be worth a trip down there or even emailing them to see if they have any pictures other than those on the website.

A mate of mine is still in the reserves and he knows some people there, they are pretty accomodating with access to stuff if you ask them.

 Cheers

Hey all, still battling with the DVII. To anyone using the Lozenge decal sheet for the 1st time. Once its on and dried down tight overnight. GET SOME PROTECTION ON IT!!!! Speaking threough experience, it pulls off real easy with tape. DOH!!!! Futures good, so is Tamiya clear.

...Guy