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FW-190 Reich Defender III 5/10-2/11

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  • From: Cleveland, OH
Posted by Clebode on Saturday, October 2, 2010 11:11 AM

Hello all.  Checked out all the new WIPs and they look fantastic! 

Does anyone know of a technique for removing yellowing from old decals other than the tape to the window sun bleach method?  No sun here now.

Frank--Do you have a count as to how many birds have been completed?

Hugh

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Posted by maxfax on Saturday, October 2, 2010 8:07 PM

Hello everyone,

I finished the build and the painting. I will start to detail and weather next over the next week or so. I am not sure if I am going to add the drop tank. I ended up paining the black forward fuselage markings instead of using the very thick decals, but I didn't have the courage or patience to add the red stripe that outlines it.

Thanks,

Rob

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, October 2, 2010 9:42 PM

WOOOHOOO!!!!!BeerFrank's Zero is in the newest issue!

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, October 2, 2010 11:00 PM

Mike- I agree, the more I look for answer on Luftwaffe questions, the more questions are raised.  Ahhh... now I understand the allure of these machines.  I have also seen many different callouts for ordnance colors, never sure which is right.

Not sure if you have seen this site or not, and also am not sure if it is 100% accurate but it is an interesting study.

Bomb Annex

Hugh- So far, 18 completed and more on the way! Propeller

Rob- Excellent work on what I think is one of the most handsome 190's to take flight.  Great work on the masking, and I agree- painting that thin red outline sounds painful indeed.

Bill- Thanks mate, I appreciate that.  Break out the rum! ToastPirate

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Sunday, October 3, 2010 3:55 AM

Rob, fantastic work, i'm seriously loving that build...I'll PM you my postal address so you know where to send it once your finishedYes

 

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, October 3, 2010 4:34 AM

Rob she looks stunning mate!!!!!Toast

WOW you did it again Frank!!!! WELL DONE mate!!!Toast Thanks for the pics too!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, October 3, 2010 7:10 AM

Maxfax -- another precise, clean build, a pleasure to see! Excellent!

Frank -- thanks for that link!

Latest WIP shot -- my near-daily progreess reports are drawing to a close and if the modelling gods smile it'll be the gallery pictures tomorrow. Here are the ancillary parts painted and ready to be fitted:

Frank, the spiral decal is on! Cool I must say, Tamiya didn't quite nail the algorithm for the conical development as well as Hasegawa did on their Bf 109 K-4, but it was close enough for four applications of MicroSol and a blade to get the spiral to snug down acceptably.

These parts are now going on, and yesterday I did the metal chipping. I'm not very comfortable with the technique yet so I went with less-is-more. If I get better at it I can scratch it a bit more in future, but for now I'm tempted to spot out a few metal bits that don't look quite right. I'll make a call on that tomorrow. Earlier today I did the carbon staining, it was not quite as satisfactory as on previous projects, but it's only my third or fourth time so some variation is to be expected yet.

Landing gear going on next, then tank, bombs and underside antennae, leaving dust on the lowest points and the radio antenna for tomorrow.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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  • From: Wirral. UK
Posted by Spike190 on Monday, October 4, 2010 5:56 AM

Rob looks like your almost done, she looks great! Lovely clean paintwork.

Mike, excellent progress, I like your painting on the little bits, excellent work.

Sorry for my slow progress, mad week at work followed by a weekend away and now it's getting dark at 7PM!

A coat of Halfords grey acrylic primer and some pre-shading with some Gunze black, soz about dodgy pic.

Used Gunze RLM 76 on the underside and up the sides, lightening the centre of some panels to try and keep it a little interesting,

Added a couple of drops of dark grey to the 76 and using post-it notes as masks I picked out some panel edges, this will get a pro-modeller wash to wards the end so hopefully all come together nicely.

I'm hoping to start on the top side a little later.

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, October 4, 2010 8:34 AM

Done! Thanks to everyone for the compliments along the way, they sure help with keeping the momentum going to get from A to B.

Today I dusted the lower parts with MiG Europe Dust, corrected a couple of minor ommissions, and did the oh-so-fiddly antenna using EZ Line (not sure why they call it that, this time it took me about five attempts to get it to work, while the 109 on which I first experimented went through at the first prod!)

On with the evidence:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wish I could get the antenna wire to not sag under the pull of the vertical section, but it seems to be part and parcel of this method! As always, comments and suggestions are more than welcome, I want every build to be better than the one before!

Frank -- thanks for another wonderful GB, I've learned fascinating stuff and had a lot of fun contributing to the amazing body of work that always seems to shake down when the "Luftwaffe Plasticworks" gets going! I'll post here when I manage to make progress on the other three kits I lined up for this build, and in the meantime I'll help myself to the badge. (I never feel right grabbing the badge until the model is actually done!)

Cheers, and thanks again,

Mike/TB379

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 4, 2010 8:43 AM

Excellent work on that preshading Spike, well done!  Which scheme are you doing?

Mike- Outstanding stuff, welcome to the finish line!  That was quite a sprint at the end, and the finished product looks great my friend.  Page one updated!

With the end date looming ahead, should we extend the date, or finish up and prepare for RDIV?

Frank 

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, October 4, 2010 8:55 AM

Hi Frank -- many thanks, it's been quite a job of work, taking up a fair part of my mid-semester break, I'm back to teaching two days from now, but will find bench time for necessary escapism!

If there are builds still going I'd be all for extending the deadline, I would certainly like to take a shot at the 1:32 A-8, it's already a fair way along on subassemblies. No guarantees, though, I have at least seven other projects that I should tie up first, including my 262 for RD II... I didn't complete a Phantom for my own F-4 GB! Embarrassed Do we have a decision yet on the theme for RD IV? Whatever it is, you know I'll be aboard!

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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  • From: Ancaster, Ontario
Posted by maxfax on Monday, October 4, 2010 10:51 AM

Spike:  your build is coming along nicely. I wish I pre-shaded my panel lines as well - it creates a nice effect.

Thunderbolt: Beautiful build! What did you use/method used to highlight the panel lines?

Rob

On the bench:  Revell 1/72 HCMS Snowberry

 

 

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  • From: Wirral. UK
Posted by Spike190 on Monday, October 4, 2010 11:19 AM

Mike congratulations on a marvelous build, she looks beautiful Yes. Great pics too!

Frank and Rob thanks for the comments, Frank I'm doing this scheme,

I liked the blue on the cowl and I'm a sucker for a name under the cockpit!

Here she is with some RLM 75,

and with some RLM 74 added,

Still plenty to do but moving along well at the mo

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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  • From: Ancaster, Ontario
Posted by maxfax on Monday, October 4, 2010 11:57 AM

Spike- nicely done. You have a great touch withyour airbrush!

Rob

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Posted by sidure on Monday, October 4, 2010 1:38 PM

Wow, Three great looking builds in progress and they are all stunners

Rob, Black 8 looks terriffic great job.

Spike, I like the pes shading effect a lot, I do that also but I have a heavy hand with my A/B and usually cover most of it but I will take note of your procedures and give it a go.

Tbolt, very nice build and I especially like the green chevrons, it sets off the whole scheme.

Great work by all

Steve

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, October 4, 2010 6:41 PM

Rob, Spike and Steve -- thanks, guys, it's always nice when a build is appreciated! Rob, the panel lines were accented with Promodeller "Dark Dirt" weathering wash, I find it's less stark than black, though black would be more appropriate (or at least visible) against really dark colours. It's optimised to be used over a gloss finished, so on a satin finish you actually need to wash the excess away, rather than simply rub it away dry. I use a slightly moistened paper towel. Some wash tends to remain on the surface here and there, contributing to a dirty/shadowed look which is quite evocative of the grime a machine collects, while being subtle enough not to shout 'visual filth!' to the viewer.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, October 4, 2010 9:21 PM

Here are a couple of bonus shots of the F-8 alongside the Bf 109 K-4 I built for RD I. I experimented with flash for these, and although the shadows are hard, the effect is not bad...

 

This comparison really shows what a beefy aircraft the 190 was, or, conversely, what a petite design the 109 was! Two very different aircraft but which did similar jobs just as well as eachother.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by Spike190 on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 2:16 AM

Rob, Steve thanks very much, Gunze paints are great, I love em,

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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  • From: Brisbane
Posted by Julez72 on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 4:47 AM

Frank, maybe keep the GB going until all the current builds are finished....BTW whats you idea for RD IV, didn't you mention Zestorer/nightfighter?

Mike, outstanding work buudy thats a beautiful build...Well doneYesYesYes

Spike, lovely airbrushing, you do have a deft touch...Looking forward to seeing the finished buildYes

 

 

 

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Posted by maxfax on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 10:35 AM

That Zerstorer idea would be great. I bought a Revel 1/32 Me 110 C  a few months ago at a store closing sale for next to nothing. Got some Eduard PE (for the G4- but I'm just about the look!) for the deficient cockpit and was going to try my hand at some scratch building. When would it start, just after this one?

Rob

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Posted by Spike190 on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 1:35 PM

Cheers Julez I appreciate the comments.

TTFN...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 1:43 PM

I'd be down with that. A Croatian Bf 110, or maybe a Reggie one.

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Posted by eptingmike on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 6:50 PM

Daywalker

Excellent work on that preshading Spike, well done!  Which scheme are you doing?

Mike- Outstanding stuff, welcome to the finish line!  That was quite a sprint at the end, and the finished product looks great my friend.  Page one updated!

With the end date looming ahead, should we extend the date, or finish up and prepare for RDIV?

I assume the end date would be Halloween?  I think I can make that deadline(although a pretty mean cold has sidelined me the last few days)but if extending it means a few more folks are able to get their birds done, I am all for it,

What are your plans for RDIV?

Mike

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 9:38 PM

Great family photo of the 109 and 190, love it!  Funny how two aircraft can look so different, yet very similar at the same time?

Julez72

Frank, maybe keep the GB going until all the current builds are finished....BTW whats you idea for RD IV, didn't you mention Zestorer/nightfighter?

Good idea Julez!  How about we keep this one going until all of the current builds are finished, and then wait a month or two to start RDIV so that we can all finish up some other GBs?

I would be inclined to go for the nightfighters, as I have a few decal sheets of nocturnal 109's and 190's (not to mention Stukas!)  Believe it or not, I do not have any Zerstorers in my stash at all, NONE! Surprise

Frank 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 9:55 PM

The FW 190 is a small aircraft; the 109 is a really small one. Of course the 190 is much the more effective of the two.

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Posted by Julez72 on Friday, October 8, 2010 6:17 AM

Daywalker

 

I would be inclined to go for the nightfighters, as I have a few decal sheets of nocturnal 109's and 190's (not to mention Stukas!)  Believe it or not, I do not have any Zerstorers in my stash at all, NONE! Surprise

Frank, Maybe do both, any Zestorer or nightfighter......

 

 

 

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Posted by luftwaffle on Friday, October 8, 2010 9:03 PM

Daywalker

Great family photo of the 109 and 190, love it!  Funny how two aircraft can look so different, yet very similar at the same time?

 Julez72:

Frank, maybe keep the GB going until all the current builds are finished....BTW whats you idea for RD IV, didn't you mention Zestorer/nightfighter?

 

Believe it or not, I do not have any Zerstorers in my stash at all, NONE! Surprise

pssssst...Dragon 1/32 Bf 110C-7 on sale at GMW...$60....Whistling

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Posted by luftwaffle on Friday, October 8, 2010 9:07 PM

Mike- Great work on the F-8, gorgeous build!

Spike- paint looks excellent, picked some great markings too!

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Posted by luftwaffle on Friday, October 8, 2010 9:14 PM

I like the Zerstörer and Nachtjäger themes for RD IV, I'll throw out Schlachtflieger as an idea for a future RD GB as well, gotta' give the mud movers some love too. 

Prosit! Beer

 

Mike

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, October 8, 2010 9:34 PM

luftwaffle

I'll throw out Schlachtflieger as an idea for a future RD GB as well, gotta' give the mud movers some love too. 

Prosit! Beer

 

Mike

Mmmmm... great idea Mike!  Funny you brought this up, I was just pouring over a Hasegawa Stuka this morning. Propeller

Frank 

 

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