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                        ARMOR - Towed Gun Group Build (ends 7/1/04)

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                        Dwight Ta-ala
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:38 PM
                        I started doing the base of my dio yesterday. I have seen a lot of dios about the 88 in front or in a church ruins and I am planning to have my own version. I have already started putting up the church ruins using foamboard and started to put in some details. This will keep me busy for a while.

                        I may however assemble the cruciform stand of the 88 for space planning on the base but that could come later.

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                        zokissima
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
                        Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:29 PM
                        Yeah. I had such a good experience subscribing etc. from here, I thought, why not?
                        Ah well

                        "Or just about any allied figures"
                        I hear you on that one. Seems that if it isn't German, no one's interested...
                        Hehe, why do I feel a backlash comming from that comment :)

                        Suffice it to say, every time I'm at the LHS, I'd say that out of the standard injection moulded companies (that excludes the expensive aftermarket ones such as Verlinden) it'd be a safe estimate to say that around 90% of the figs are German.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:50 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by zokissima

                        I'm STILL waiting for my ICM Kit. Right now, I'm wishing I never went and ordered from Allanger. THey are STILL asking me for my mailing address, which I've allready sent TWICE, in addition to it being listed on my f*&$*&@ bill. That's business for you. Charge me the money, but don't deliver the product.
                        Suffice to say, I will NEVER order from Allanger again.
                        Right now they've taken my money, but not given me a kit....


                        Welcome to the internet Dead [xx(] that sucks though Angry [:(!]
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                        zokissima
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
                        Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:09 AM
                        I'm STILL waiting for my ICM Kit. Right now, I'm wishing I never went and ordered from Allanger. THey are STILL asking me for my mailing address, which I've allready sent TWICE, in addition to it being listed on my f*&$*&@ bill. That's business for you. Charge me the money, but don't deliver the product.
                        Suffice to say, I will NEVER order from Allanger again.
                        Right now they've taken my money, but not given me a kit....
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 8:58 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by jratz

                        Well, I have my M59, but it seems sorta "naked".

                        I need some hints on where one finds a decent crew for it; seems the figure market is not oriented to Allied artillery.


                        Or just about any allied figures. Disapprove [V]

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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 8:11 PM
                        Well, I have my M59, but it seems sorta "naked".

                        I need some hints on where one finds a decent crew for it; seems the figure market is not oriented to Allied artillery.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 10:33 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by phroosh

                        Thanks for the info Peter, I may end up doing both the Pak 40 and Sig33!


                        Laugh [(-D] That's the great thing about a towed gun group build -- you can actually do multiple projects as long as you just do the gun.

                        I've got some other projects to finish off first -- a Panther, a Sherman and a Panzer 38t, all fairly far along -- but once they are done I am going to do a quick gun project, probably a SiG33, and then a fancy one, an 8" howitzer with its big Mack prime mover.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 4:17 AM
                        Thanks for the info Peter, I may end up doing both the Pak 40 and Sig33!

                        I like the look of the accesories, too.

                        Matt
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:39 PM
                        Hey all you Sig 33 and Pak 40 builders. Want some ammo or maybe some wicker cannisters? see
                        http://www.tigermodels.com/shop/tmd/4

                        or ammo for the LeFH18, 88mm L/43, etc see
                        http://www.tigermodels.com/shop/tmd/5

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 19, 2004 9:55 PM
                        Larry, are your links air bubble free? The only set I have seen by WW2 productions for the Panther were the ones a fellow club member got for his Ausf D, and they were terrible.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 19, 2004 10:39 AM
                        Matt, you are Mr. Phroosh. Tongue [:P]

                        Dwight, I'm looking forward to your acht-und-achtzig too. Your stuff gets done quickly AND well. Double threat. Smile [:)]

                        Meanwhile I have stripped the crap metal treads off my Panther and am redoing them using the lovely WWII Productions links. Right now I'm more behind than Anna Nicole Smith! Evil [}:)]
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 19, 2004 2:23 AM
                        I got my Alan Sig-33 gun in the post today. Looks really nice, too. Still undecided about theatre, towing vehicle, etc. but it is a long build so I guess I can make up my mind as I go along.

                        Being new to this, do we all sort of list off at the start so we know what everyone is doing? Is there a particular format to follow? Does Larry assign us code names? (If so, I don't want to be Mr Pink, Larry."

                        Pardon my ignorance, but April is around the corner and I am getting antsy!

                        Matt
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 18, 2004 7:45 PM
                        Hey Eric, creaping up on the magic 2500 I see. Gonna be in some fine company soon.
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                        tigerman
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
                        Posted by tigerman on Thursday, March 18, 2004 7:39 PM
                        Looking forward to your 88mm Dwight. You crank out some awesome models.

                        http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

                         Eric 

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:42 PM
                        Yeah Dwight you can do the gun alone. It is actually a group build for the field piece, just it seems most of us want to have a mover as well.

                        The start date is 1 April (no fools here though) with the end being 1 July - nice long build for us slowpokes, so you need to keep those fingers busy on something elsein the mean time. Why not go and see what little cheapie kit the LHS has to offer you.

                        Then again, why not start on the dio base for the 88mm? Nothing to say that you can't touch that before you put glue to plastic on the field piece itself.Evil [}:)]Wink [;)]Wink [;)]
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:30 PM
                        Are we required to have the towing vehicle built, too? Can I build my Flak 36 without the 8 ton semi-track? I don't have the budget for the 8 ton semi-track right now.

                        I just want to build it planted on the ground on a dio.

                        When can we start?Wink [;)]Evil [}:)]

                        I finished my M1A2 for the M1 Abrams Group Build already and I have nothing to do.Disapprove [V]

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:12 PM
                        Man ya'll this sucks... I don't have internet sevice at my desk anymore so I have to log on where i can. I have been away so much I have lost touch with whats going on around here. I guess I will have to get service at my house to really get back into it... I am amped about starting the build though... sorry I haven't been participating all that much... Talk at ya'll later
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:28 AM
                        id love to get a AFV Club 17 pounderBig Smile [:D] and a Crusader Gun Tractor from TamiyaBig Smile [:D]
                        but AFV Club or Tamiya dont make themSad [:(]
                        and im not paying £100 for them made in ResinDisapprove [V]
                        so i get what catches my eye

                        do anyone make the Russian 100mm BS 3 anti tank gun ?
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:13 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by maffen

                        HEEELPPP going to need more russianpullers over here,all those germans Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D] am i the only one that goes to the redstar side???


                        I thought seriously about doing one of those humnogous tracked russian field guns pulled by a tractor. There are resin kits available for both. Thing is, D-Day's 60th anniversary is coming up soon, so I wanted to celebrate that crucial victory of the Allies.

                        The German fascination is just a part of this hobby. It's been hashed out here and in other places as well. I know you were fooling around, and I don't want to make too much of this, but my take on it is, since it's a hobby, if people enjoy, more power to them.

                        It's when they start rounding people up and putting them on trains East that I start to worry, no matter what's on their worktable. Tongue [:P]
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:42 PM
                        "HEEELPPP going to need more russianpullers over here"

                        movers may have been a better term Maffen. Just because the USSR had the largest number of artillery pieces than any other standing Army doesn't mean that you are going to get the lion's share of the group builder's too. I don't think you will be persuading any one to move to the red star soon. The recent kit offerings and the idea of having a mover with the gun has lured everyone to the more mainstream projects.
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                        maffen
                        • Member since
                          September 2003
                        Posted by maffen on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:30 PM
                        HEEELPPP going to need more russianpullers over here,all those germans Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D] am i the only one that goes to the redstar side???
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:11 PM
                        Beav, the Panther page is already on 99 and a few of us stragglers should be posting final pics soon........there would need to be a very large number of posts in a short time frame here to beat that to 100.

                        Claymore: I have the Tamiya 251 C too. Cut it down the middle, add 8 mm to the width, cover the open rear with a tarpaulin and place snow and mud up to the mudguards and Bob's your Aunty. Never waste anything!!!!Tongue [:P]
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                        beav
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        • From: Ft. Sill, OK
                        Posted by beav on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 7:15 PM
                        Hey, why don't you guys just like Start for instance? Maybe, with all the people signed up for this one, you could be the first group build displayed to top 100 pages?

                        "First to Fire!"

                        Steven

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                        bbrowniii
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: 41 Degrees 52.4 minutes North; 72 Degrees 7.3 minutes West
                        Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 5:22 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by petbat

                        The Tamiya 251kit hails from the 70's. Read the 'English' translation in the instructions and the history of the vehicle. I think Tamiya got a Polish speaking Chinese national, that was raised in Uzbekistan to translate the Japanese to English. That's why it is referred to as a Hanomag.

                        As a kit it needs cosmetic work, as a miniture of the real thing it needs a lot of work. Save yourself the heartache and get the DML or AFV Club 251 Ausf C.


                        Thanks for the advice Smile [:)] I'll be sure to avoid that one...

                        'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

                         

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                        tigerman
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
                        Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:55 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by petbat
                        I think Tamiya got a Polish speaking Chinese national, that was raised in Uzbekistan to translate the Japanese to English. That's why it is referred to as a Hanomag.


                        LOL. For those of you newbies that care, you get a fifth star at 2000 posts.

                        http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

                         Eric 

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:05 AM
                        QUOTE: As a kit it needs cosmetic work, as a miniture of the real thing it needs a lot of work.

                        I have the Tamiya kit!!! Oh well i think i'm up to the challenge.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 12:11 AM
                        Sorry Larry, half asleep. it was Jon who was chatting about the 251/10.

                        Matt
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:14 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by phroosh

                        Larry, I don't think the 251/10 would have had a mortar in it too. They were used by platoon leaders, I think, and that would make for a lot of different ammo and radio equipment in one vehicle.


                        Hmmm? ... sorry, was this addressed to me? I don't recall discussing the 251/10.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:15 PM
                        Boyd. Ever seen the Tamiya Kit of the 'Ford Mutt'? Now go ask a genuine US grunt what a Ford Mutt is. Chances are he will say the neighbour's dog in the back of his car, 'cause the jeep ain't commonly referred to by that name.

                        The Tamiya 251kit hails from the 70's. Read the 'English' translation in the instructions and the history of the vehicle. I think Tamiya got a Polish speaking Chinese national, that was raised in Uzbekistan to translate the Japanese to English. That's why it is referred to as a Hanomag.

                        As a kit it needs cosmetic work, as a miniture of the real thing it needs a lot of work. Save yourself the heartache and get the DML or AFV Club 251 Ausf C.
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                        bbrowniii
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                          April 2003
                        • From: 41 Degrees 52.4 minutes North; 72 Degrees 7.3 minutes West
                        Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:04 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by petbat

                        Boyd. 'Hanomag' is a generic term often applied to the 251 series. Hanomag of Hannover was in charge of the development of the SdKfz 11 3 ton chassis to make is suitable for fitting an amoured body to it. The actual body work was the responsibility of Bussing-Nag of Berlin.


                        Well alright. Good to know. Learn something new everyday.

                        But I have to admit to being a little confused still. Doesn't Tamiya market a german halftrack kit as a "Hanomag". Is the kit of the 'base' version of the vehicle so the nickname, being generic, would be appropriate?

                        Not really a big deal, but I'm definately curious. (feel free to respond with something along the lines of, "Hey, slacker, get off your butt and do some RESEARCH for a change!!" Wink [;)] )

                        'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

                         

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