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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:45 PM

Thats actually how the owner of my LHS started! He bought a small stash of kits and started selling them one the web. He continued like this for some months untill he had enough money to rent a store and buy some more kits. He owns one of the best hobby shops in Vienna now... (IMO)

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:07 PM

You guys could get together and open a hobby shop with all those kits. Be better stocked than anything around here. :)

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:44 PM

RE my signature: No offence to the Mustang intended (although the Jug IS in fact sturdier Wink)

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:43 PM

That's a huge stash! I surrender, you beat me... Wink

I can only say the same: The Fw 190 is by far my favorite axis aircraft as well and right behind the Thunderbolt. (I guess you can tell from my avatar and sig anyway...)

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:34 PM

Been watching and enjoying all the cross talk and pictures of outstanding builds, keep it up!!!

 

Now that we are talking stashes (190's that is) here is mine (and yes I am slightly crazy):

 

Revell Germany

1/32 Fw190D-9 (late) x 2 (great kit with lots of options)

Hasagawa

1/32 D-9 with scraps of verlinden detail kit and other resin

1/48 A4

Eduard (all 1/48)

Royal class A8/R2 (two kits)

A8/R2 Profipack

D9 Profipack

D-9 weekend edition

D-11 weekend edition

D-11/D-13 dual combo pack

Tamiya

D-9

Hobby Boss

Ta-152 C1/R-14 x 2

Dragon

Ta-152H-1 special edition

Completed

Ta-152H-1

Fw190 D-9

(both for this GB)

Tamiya A8/R2 (great little kit)

RoG 1/32 Fw190D-9

1/32 RoG D-9

think that is accurate, but I might have miss named a kit or two.  Think that it is obvious that this is perhaps my favorite axis aircraft (and an awesome subject to model as well), and number 2 behind the P-51.

 

Matt

 

 

 

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by Reasoned on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:22 PM

Only 169 pages?  Ya'll need to get building!

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38

In the Hanger: A bunch of kits

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:21 AM

I only need a jar of RLM 23, RLM 83 and RLM 84 each. I have 3 (more like 2.5) bottles of Tamiya's Extra Thin Cement (I love that stuff!) at home... Stick out tongue

You could be right on the "help" part though Wink

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Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:07 AM

I think we both need help!  or more glue and paint. Big Smile

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:58 AM

Yes, I am insane. AND I AM PROUD OF IT!!! Well, not really, but I admit it at least...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:56 AM

Wait a sec! I only have 6 190s in my stash/on the bench. Here's the full list:

Currently building:

  • Eduard A-8
  • Eduard A-8/R2
  • Eduard D-9
  • Eduard D-9
  • Eduard D-11

In the stash:

  • Dragon 152

Just acquired:

  • Eduard D-13

"to buy bag" at the LHS:

  • Eduard F-8
  • Tamiya F-8

ordered at my LHS:

  • Zoukei Mura 152
  • Hasegawa A-5

That are 9 kits I own (some are still on their way to me) and 2 to buy... AAAND the ZM 152 is in 1/32!

 

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Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:39 AM

Clemen's,  I beg to differ.   I just did a count of my 190'sSurprise

Currently building

-Tamiya A-3

-Dragon A-8

in the stash/Que

- Eduard A-8

Just acquired

-  Tamiya A-3

- Dragon A-4

in the "to buy bag at my local LHS"

- Dragon A-5

- Dragon 152

I also have 2

-Pegasus  190 snap togethers, one of which I'm building for a display model for my LHS.

I think I've gone around the bend as it were!Oops  tha'ts 7 I own and 2 on the way

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:19 AM

You are hopless? Look at me!!!

You have 4 190s while I have 7 of them...

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Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:15 AM

Well my friend "101stAirborn" came back form the nationals in Colorado with a couple of kits I couldn't resist, Whistling a Tamiya Fw190A-3  and a Dragon Fw190 A-4.  So now those are in my stash.  Couldn't help it I still have AM decals for the 190Yes  I am hopeless.

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:43 AM

Ah, 1/24th. Didn't know there is a 190 in 1/24th, thanks Scott.

Very impressive work, appreciate your taking the time to show some details about how you are doing stuff. Clever modification re the tail wheel strut fix. Hope you don't give up, would be fun to see how this one turns out.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:42 AM

Yep, your 190 is looking really nice, Scott!

Eric: I don't know if RB productions offers belts in 1/32, but HGW makes some really nice sets.

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Posted by Jester75 on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:36 AM

Great work on that Airfix kit Scott! I love those belts! Wonder if they are made in 32nd scale? Looks like it has its share of challenges but you seem to be kicking its  butt!

Eric

 

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Posted by darson on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:32 AM

Scott I know it's Airfix so it fits where it touches and that's about the best you can say, but don't give up as the kit is looking brilliant with all of the work you've put in despite what you had to start with.

Saying that, the fuselage halves are going to be a royal pain to align and fit the cockpit tub properly.

Cheers

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:27 PM

Now I was at the point of attaching the cockpit assemby to the engine assembly per instructions. Sorry no pics of this attempt since I was ready to go ballistic over it. Don't know it it was just my kit but when dry fitting the two assemblies together and setting them in the fuselage half.  I found that the upper instrument panel nearly covers all of the lower panel. Give me a double Bang Head Bang Head

So I removed the upper panel, and sanded down the area where it attaches to the back of the firewall. I figure I will glue the engine and cockpit separately and when done than squeeze in the upper panel into place and hope for the best. HEY! It's Airfix!

Moving on. After the engine assy was glued in...  PS I decided I will add more wiring and pumbing after it's installed and before closing the fuselage together, no sense putting it in areas that it can't be seen. So I still have some work left to do there.

I than test fitted the fuselage halves and got this... I know, I know it's Airfix. I plan on gluing the halves from the tail and slowly work forward clamping things down along the way.

These issues with the kit and being that I have a large trash can underneath my hobby desk, I ordered this during a recent Squadron Sale as a back-up kit in the event the Airfix kit finds it's way into the can. I'm not giving up on it yet but boy is it becoming challanging. If nothing else the cockpit was fun to work on.

Here I used just a tiny drop of Tacky Glue to position the lapbelts.

Just a couple of minor touch up's here. The decal placard set is by Airscale and I got those those through Ultracast too. I also bought the Airscale FW-190 instrument set but I felt it just wouldn't work so I went with the Eduard set instead.

The white stenciling is my work using flat white paint and a piece of wire. The wiring coming from the lower panel that will go underneath the upper panel is florist wire and that will be painted black.

 

Hope to get some more work done on this beast tomorrow.

Scott

 

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:47 PM

Now I'm trying to move along faster and since the cockpit was nearly done I thought I'd go onto the tail wheel step. I purchased the Scale Aircraft Conversion Fw-190 gear set beliving I can use it on the Airfix kit. And as the label on the packaging says YES it's for the Trumpeter FW-190 model Bang Head.  As you can see below.

  Scratch that ideal.

Now here's another problem with the AIrfix kit. Looking at references the tail wheel when in the down position ought to look like this.

But if you go by the assembly instructions the kit tail wheel looks like this. Just sitting a little too high in the wheel well.

This is how the part is suppose to sit when installed.

Using a file, I came down and made another notch for the kit part.

There by bringing the tail wheel down just a little bit.

Before.

After.  Works for me.

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:26 PM

Greg

Awesome seatbelts! 1/32nd scale, I presume???

Good to hear all went well, and welcome back.

Greg...1/24th and RB has a seat belt set for the RAF and it looks awesome!

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:08 PM

Awesome seatbelts! 1/32nd scale, I presume???

Good to hear all went well, and welcome back.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:39 PM

Archangel Shooter

Surgery and recovery went well but the model building been slow going for me, too many wife honey do's are getting in the way. Posting some pics of what I accomplished so far and the headaches I'm encountering but hey! It an AIRFIX kit so I should have expected it.

 This is the harness set by RB Productions that I ordered from Ultracast. It went together well other than I lost 2 pieces to the carpet monster.

 

 

Friggin awesome! Thats one of the things I like most about the large scale kits. There's a ton of detail you can put in em. NICE!!!

                   

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Posted by JOE RIX on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:18 PM

SchattenSpartan

Do you love this group or its madness? Wink

Madness? THIS! IS! FINESCALE!!!

I love the fact that everybody in this GB seems to be a few grains short of a full silo.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:04 PM

Okay got the photobucket problem solved...Where was I?

The RB Luftwaffe seatbelts are pretty good though in 24th scale they were easy to work on with my old eyes.

I drilled 2 holes into the seat bucket and using wire, connected the lapbelt attach point to the bucket.

I did the same for the shoulder belts, ran wire through the cockpit wall and simply twisted them to secure it. Also had to jerry rig a left harness buckle since one flew off into space on me.  I was using reference pics of an FW to figure where to place the shoulder attach points and though it looks low here, it works when the seat bucket is in place.

The belts are simply drapped onto the seat for now.

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:00 PM

Do you love this group or its madness? Wink

Madness? THIS! IS! FINESCALE!!!

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:35 PM

lol! Love this group...

When Life Hands You A Bucket Of Lemons...

Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:48 PM

No need for that, John! I've been there already, but they kicked me out because I was affecting the other guys there too much (I only made them buy a few 190s... Angel)

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Posted by falconmod on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:56 PM

SchattenSpartan

Thanks a lot for answering my questions!

I think I can set the 190 counter to 6 models. I just couldn't resist and placed an order at Hannants Embarrassed:

  • Eduard Fw-190 D-13 (yes, another one!) That kit comes with the right decals as well!
  • Eduard Fw-190 D-13 PE set I just took the big one because there is no pre-painted cokpit set (and because it has so many PE goodies in it Big Smile)...

Are you listening, Joe?

 

Ok I'm going to send you a application to join "Fw190 anonymous"  you need serious helpBig Smile

of course I have a friend that went to nationals in Colorado and he's bringing me  another dragon 190A-8Embarrassed

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:09 PM

Thanks a lot for answering my questions!

I think I can set the 190 counter to 6 models. I just couldn't resist and placed an order at Hannants Embarrassed:

  • Eduard Fw-190 D-13 (yes, another one!) That kit comes with the right decals as well!
  • Eduard Fw-190 D-13 PE set I just took the big one because there is no pre-painted cokpit set (and because it has so many PE goodies in it Big Smile)...

Are you listening, Joe?

 

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Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:45 AM

Both fuselages for the D-11 and -13 have a slight bulge and a larger supercharger intake. Eduard molded this right even though its really subtle. So, neither would be accurate for a D-9 fuselage, but it would be close and I sure wouldn't let it bother you.

And the same thing for the lower wings. The D-11 has 2 guns per wing-wrong for the D-9, and the D-13 has a motor cannon so you would have to fill that ejector chute and change some minor things near the lower gear bay to make it accurate for a D-9.

For the PE question, yes it should be basically the same thing. The only difference in the pit of the D-13 would be the breach cover for the centerline cannon between the rudder pedals, sort of similar to the 109.

I probably missed this, but if you want to make the D-13 "yellow 10" why are you trying to use D-9 parts when you already have the dual combo kit?

 

 

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