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ARMOR - British/Commonwealth Group Build (9/17/04 to 12/31/04)

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  • From: Upstate NY
Posted by Build22 on Friday, January 28, 2005 8:01 AM


Thanks, Rebel and Peter


A few decals, some detail paint , and a little weathering and I'll have her kicked


Jim [IMG]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:49 PM
Great work on the chally. Really looks the piece. Nice shading, and depth. Very nice indeed.
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 7:49 PM
looks great, I really like the effect of the pre shading. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]
John
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Posted by Build22 on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:14 AM


A little further on the Challenger 2

Had air brush troubles


Pre-shaded


Mixed colors - desert yellow, buff and skin tone
Lightened layer as well





Getting there slowly but surely - I will get this baby done




Jim [IMG]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 22, 2005 6:01 AM
sorry people, haven't deserted you, just had virus probs with the PC. My son installed some programs from a dodgy disk without running virus scan first - end result 19 infections and a week in the shop.

Looking forward to the pics John and Rich.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:24 PM
Hey gang I am still alive and kicking. and i am almost done with the Bren Carrier. will post Pics in the next couple days.
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ARMOR - British/Commonwealth Group Build (9/17/04 to 12/31/04)
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:19 PM
It has been a couple weeks. I haven't punted -- I'm still plugging away.

Right now I'm into all the little details & things to get the frame, the cab, the decks, the mounts, and the gun itself done. Still trying to stall off painting anything. None of it is very exciting.

I'll post again in a couple weeks when there is more to show.

John
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:25 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl

what's wrong w/ this pic ?

i think the run of track is on backwards... Black Eye [B)]
i knew there was something 'not rite',
couldn't put my finger on it until i looked closely at the box art...
so i popped 'em off again.
but just in case the box art isn't correct either...
which way should the wedge of the track shoe taper ?

PS i mistakenly hit edit instead of quote & deleted the other pix from the first post instead of adding just this one pic here.... Black Eye [B)]Black Eye [B)]
not having my best day.... Dead [xx(]

frostySmile [:)]

frostySmile [:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 8, 2005 6:01 AM
Zokissma, I'm no photographic expert either, but practice does improve the resultsBig Smile [:D] I also find that when taking close up pics, a pale blue sheet used as a background is less distracting than what else is in the room, and helps get a better colour representation. Have fun playing with your new toyTongue [:P]
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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Saturday, January 8, 2005 2:43 AM
Thanks for the tip. I'd been meaning to do just that, but I ran out of daylight too soon (damn winter) and so I decided to just go for it. It'll take me some time to get to really know how to go with the new digicam Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 7, 2005 2:14 PM
Zokissma - great work on the Centurian. That one has seen a lot of use alright, love the rust effect at the rear. Cool [8D] Just a quick tip: When taking pics avoid using spot/lamp lights as they create too much shadow. If you can, take the pics near a window using natural light - but not in the direct sunlight.

Frosty, thanks for the info on the gel. I have a sheet of window tint film that I have used on a couple of old models to see how it works out. That stuff is self adhesive just add water. It's pretty cheap too (free)- just go into a window tint place (or con Mum into doing it for you) and ask for a few different samples to try at home. I will have to try the gel for the newer red tinted vision blocks as window tint doesn't come in redBig Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 7:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jratz

QUOTE: Originally posted by zokissima
.... snip ....
I hope I've earned the right to wear the badge.


You've got my Vote -- very nice !!!!
The stuff hanging off it looks very natural !!!
Good Job !!!
John


ditto !
that is one fine looking model u have there, zok !!!!
superb job on the weathering/ paint chipping...

frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 7:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by petbat
Erica, looking great. I can't get over the detail on that braille scale chally. Forgive my ignorance but what is the lighting gel you used? PS, this was the first GB deadline I have met - and only because I started the thread and felt obliged to meet it.

these revell germany 1/72 kits r amazing...
my only regret on this build is that i can't find the p/e turret baskets i got 2 go with the kit...
i really need 2 clean up my room. Dead [xx(]Dead [xx(]
LOL re: deadline....Big Smile [:D]
nothing 2 forgive; the 'lighting gels' r thin sheets of tinted acetate used 2 color theatrical spotlights, they come in all sorts of different colors... i think they replicate afv optics & vision blox pretty well... & i scavenge them 4 free from the theatre at school !
each sheet is approx. 6 x 8 ", so u can make a whole lot of vision blox/optics from 1 gel ...


frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 6:47 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zokissima
.... snip ....
I hope I've earned the right to wear the badge.


You've got my Vote -- very nice !!!!
The stuff hanging off it looks very natural !!!
Good Job !!!

John
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 9:19 AM
wow amazing detail zokissima, really good job on the painting.
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Posted by diggeraone on Thursday, January 6, 2005 7:16 AM
Great work everybody,I like them all.Frosty looking go and Zokissima great job on the Centurion.John can't wait to see it finished you have put a lot of work into it.Digger
Put all your trust in the Lord,do not put confidence in man.PSALM 118:8 We are in the buisness to do the impossible..G.S.Patton
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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Thursday, January 6, 2005 5:55 AM
hehe, finally, after weeks of delay, and just before the deadline, I finished my centurion. And Christmas brought me a digital camera as well, so without further delay, my finished entry for this GB:






To recap, it's the Modelcraft (reboxed Academy) Centurion in 1/35. The front and rear fenders, skirts, tools, stowage, muffler guards are all scratch built, while numerous other little details went into the kit.
I hope I've earned the right to wear the badge.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 4:36 AM
Back on line- PC popped a fuse after my last post.

Erica, looking great. I can't get over the detail on that braille scale chally. Forgive my ignorance but what is the lighting gel you used? PS, this was the first GB deadline I have met - and only because I started the thread and felt obliged to meet it.

Build, the perserverance has paid dividends. Tracks look like a natural fit now. Coming along real nice.

Keep 'em coming guys and gals
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  • From: Upstate NY
Posted by Build22 on Thursday, January 6, 2005 1:57 AM


Jratz - looking good Thumbs Up [tup] - lots of detail there !

Frosty - looking good as well Thumbs Up [tup] - that kit does have great detail for 1/72




Here's progress on the Challenger 2

Already for paint
[img=left]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Build22/Challenger%202/Challenger036-2.jpg[/img=left]
[img=left]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Build22/Challenger%202/Challenger027-2.jpg[/img=left]









This kit was a struggle - but it does have great detail on all the pieces and hull. It should paint-up very nicely


Jim [IMG]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 12:06 PM
what's wrong w/ this pic ?

i think the run of track is on backwards... Black Eye [B)]
i knew there was something 'not rite',
couldn't put my finger on it until i looked closely at the box art...
so i popped 'em off again.
but just in case the box art isn't correct either...
which way should the wedge of the track shoe taper ?

frostySmile [:)]
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 7:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl

jratz:
looking better than ever, what a build !!!
4 some reason, i really like seeing these in-progress shots...
u can check out what's been added & what materials were used
before the primer &/or paint go on... pretty cool !


Truth is, I HATE painting so I wait till very last minute & have no other choice..
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Posted by buff on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 4:56 PM
Thanks Peter. I've found some static grass, and I'll definitely give it a go next time. You're right about the kitty litter. There isn't much in the Woodland Scenics package...
I didn't know about the OD, but I can see where it would make a big difference. I did paint the grass, but the turf being what it is, it doesn't show up the way it would on static grass. I wanted to give it some depth, not make different areas different colors. Oh well, I have enough tips to make some real improvements next time. Thanks again.

On the bench: 1/32 Spit IXc

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 12:13 PM
jratz:
looking better than ever, what a build !!!
4 some reason, i really like seeing these in-progress shots...
u can check out what's been added & what materials were used
before the primer &/or paint go on... pretty cool !

petbat:
i was actually working on the Chally 1 last nite,
added some glazing 2 the commander's cupola using
a blue tinted lighting gel & clear parts cement,
got started installing the trax & put on a few little other parts
like the big basket on the front of the turret port side
& the muzzle of the main gun...
i think i heard another deadline whoosh by.... Big Smile [:D]
better late than never, tho'....
will try 2 post pix tomorrow !

frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Monday, January 3, 2005 11:20 PM
welcome back petbat!

John, WOW! Bow [bow] thats simply amazing!
John
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2005 11:06 PM
Hi everyone, I'm Baaack.

Buff great job on the Churchill, as I said elsewhere. Thanks for the rap on how to build the base Blush [:I] Your base looks good too. As Rebel said, Static grass is best for ground cover. I only use the foliage/Turf for bushes and trees as It is a bit lumpy for my taste. I also usually paint the grass and foliage to get a less uniform colour - just my preference - a lot of guys don't.

I also paint the area under the grass OD to start off with, unless there are a lot of bald spots; this represents the shadow under the grass blades and contrasts with the dirt road nicely too. Use Clay cat litter for rocks 'n stuff. The litter is way cheaper than commercial ballast and by nature is different sizes. A whole 5kg bag is about 1/2 the cost of one Woodland Scenics (100-150 gm?) bag of ballast. I am still using the bag I bought 20 years ago!

Keep plugging away as you always get better. Looking forward to seeing your next build.

John - still in awe with what you have achieved. Can't wait to see this one with paint on it.

Okay the rest of you....let's see some progress pics!!!!
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Posted by buff on Monday, January 3, 2005 7:08 PM
That is some amazing work, jratz. The detail is superb. The way you're going, I don't think anyone is going to begrudge you extra time. We're all waiting to see how it comes out!

On the bench: 1/32 Spit IXc

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 2, 2005 11:36 PM
looks amazing jratz
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 2, 2005 7:29 PM
WOWJohn youv'e certainly got your hands full, the level of detail is incredibleThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]I can't wait to see the finished modelWink [;)]
Cheers Jules......
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 2, 2005 7:01 PM
First, Happy New Year to everyone !!!! We had a good holiday. The kids survived the airline issues & got here more or lesson time and got back home safely. Wife, son, daughter & son-in-law all got air tours along the Outer Banks and expressed amazement that Dad could learn anything new, much less how to fly !!!!


OK, remember all those times I said I was enjoying this build ?? Well that does not count the time I spent trying to build a couple frames to hold gas & water cans !!!! I've been, what, three weeks since last post & only just now got two of 'em that I can live with -- the 3 or 4 previous attempts are trash. The only good thing about all this is that I just had to set them aside for a while and that forced me to work on other things, so I have lots of overall progress to show.

Starting at the front, I did some more tweaking of the frame & cab to look more like the pix I have -- if you look at the earlier pix you'll see the flat platform under the grill has been shortened & bent down. I did some work to make a mount for the bumper which came from the Eduard PE, thickened with Evergreen stock. I kept the Tamiya brush guard -- the PE was too thin & the Tamiya part looked OK in retrospect. Peeking over the back of the cab you can see the spare tire mount has been added to -- I've seen several different styles & I picked something easy in between all of them -- I just can't get emotionally involved with a tire carrier right now.



Next back is the center deck -- lots going on here.



There are legs for the seat to sit on; note the angle brackets and things to replicate mounting to the wood platform. On the right hand leg is a lumpy box meant to replicate the winch cranking mechanism. In reality, the handle drove a large gear which turned the smaller gear on the winch axle and the two gears were vertical. Unfortunately, the way things worked, I had to kludge this to a horizontal arrangement. The crank is shown attached; it will later be mounted on the side of the ammo box.

I ended up redoing the winch drum because things weren't fitting right. The cable is hand-wound from 4 strands of .032" wire -- I still have to work on the fittings on the end of the cable where it attaches to the little trolley.

I have also added two trail clamps -- they sorta look like the real thing, but are not mounted exactly where the real ones were -- again, a problem of making disparate things match reality. In a later picture you'll see how the carriage legs fit in the clamps. I'll use some a/c seatbelts or stray PE to make some straps to hold the legs in the clamps.

I am not going to display the contents of the storage boxes, so I made and mounted the doors and used some stray PE to make hinges & hasps.


Now, on the frame.



The final racks for the fuel & water cans. These are my tale of woe, but I finally got them done. At one point I had what I thought was good enough & mounted them to the frame. That showed me they should have a cover over them or folks would be stepping on the cans, etc. This made it a lot easier to make the final build of these flimsy parts. The British gas & water tins came from some Verlinden parts and will be reworked a bit to correct the size & pretty up the handles. I have chosen to have 2 fuel cans on one side and a water can on the other.

The fenders have been made from bent Evergreen strip. I wrapped them around a suitable bottle & dumped them into boiling water for 4 minutes, then dumped into cold water for another 4 minutes, then left 'em wrapped to air dry for 24 hours. Maybe overkill, but it works. I attached them to the frame with a few pieces of Evergreen T-bar which were rounded on the frame end & inserted in 1/16" holes drilled in the frame. This made alignment easy & a solid mounting.

If you remember the last post, I mentioned the rear deck seemed too narrow, so I added a plank on each side & this takes the deck right out to the wheels/fenders, which seems about right now. Also I put all the little handles & levers & whatnot on the gun carriage, so it is complete now (which is good because I am so scared I'm gonna break something, like the leg hinges, on this thing if I keep fiddling with it).



Now here it is with everything put together ....







Time now to finish off the underframe details I have been talking about and get on the cab interior so I can get the frame & cab into the paint booth. The center deck & rear deck will remain detached & painted separately. I can also start on the rest of the gun. Once I get the frame/cab painted & the rear/center deck painted, then I can stick them together & get to work on the trolley rails & other things. This thing is starting to move now !!! I may only miss the deadline by 2-3 months at this rate ....

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 2, 2005 6:38 PM
Progress Report::: The Matilda11 is ready for paint, sometime this week i'll give it a preshade and start with the desert yellow colour first, i'm planning on working my way up the tank so the blue will go on after thatThumbs Up [tup].......Jules........
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