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Battle of Britain GB 2006 - 1 May to 31 Oct 06

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Posted by JoeRugby on Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:14 PM
Hey Tanky...I think we were on the same wavelength..yesterday I ordered my DB601 resin engine for the Tamiya 1/72 Bf109E-3 (with the Eagle Strike BoB decals)...
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Posted by darson on Friday, April 21, 2006 12:11 AM

 Tankmaster7 wrote:
Anyone else get that feeling... when you just can't seem to build anything OOB?!

See for this build I had a nice easy Tamiya 1/72 kit with AM decals planned. Yay! No fit problems, and nice detail. But then.... look! Detail moulded directly onto the sidewalls? That can't be good. And... ooohhh look here CMK has some nice resin stuff.

So now I have an Aires resin cockpit and a CMK engine set for it... There goes my nice quick build.

But then again it will look nice to have a superdetailed 1/72 bf-109e to go along with my superdetailed 1/72 spitifre mk.1

Tanky I know exactly what you mean and I get that feeling with just about every kit I build.

For my Hurricane I already have the Ultracast seat with armour plate, wheel well and Squadron Vac formed canopy.  I haven't decided completely yet but I'll probably go for the Eduard Interior set, Ultracast Exhausts and control surfaces as well Blush [:I].

Pathetic isn't it.

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Posted by jboutin on Friday, April 21, 2006 9:36 AM

For my shed, I was thinking of going grey so maybe it will eventually turn out as a Luftwaffe universal storage shed, possibly from the Abbeville area of France. Wink [;)] 

Actually my house is grey and I still have a lot of stain left over from when I did my deck last year.  I think the colour was called "stonehenge grey" it is a sort of blue grey but I'll definately take some progess pics.

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Posted by tornado on Friday, April 21, 2006 9:48 AM
sounds good lol
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Posted by espins1 on Friday, April 21, 2006 5:47 PM
 bobbaily wrote:

 tho9900 wrote:
the Ju88 is cool... the Monogram Pro-Modeler kit is a nice one!

Tom-my LHS has one that has been sitting on the shelf for a couple of years.  However, the box art shows it as a night fighter.  Do you know if the kit contains the parts to make the 'retro' version?

Thanks

Interesting, I looked through the directions and they only show the steps to build the nightfighter.  However I looked at all the parts and they have several clear parts sprues with glass work for the A4 and A5.  There are also two noses.  The nightfighter version nose in a separate bag which includes the radar pieces, and also another nose with what look to be 4 machine guns/cannons.  So, I'll have to look at my references when I get home to confirm specifics, but I'd be willing to bet you could piece together a couple different versions from this kit. 

I'd forgotten how kick ****** this kit iCool [8D]s.  It's really very nice.  I'm gettin' the itch to put this one together as it will make one impressive model! 

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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:07 PM

Hey all-My LHS ordered my Hasegawa bf109E-4 (Wick) and it arrived on Friday.  Kinda cool-they can order it and sell it to me cheaper than I can order it from GreatModels (or anyone else).  Nice to support a local business.  Anyway, I digress.  Next step is to order an Ultracast seat and maybe a 'backup' decal set.  Not sure if I can duplicate the camo scheme on Wick's planes.  I have read that the camo was applied with a sponge.  Can't seem to find a 1/48th scale sponge.....Wink [;)].  Did find some interesting paint brushes on sale in the Hobby & Craft section @ Walmart today.  Along with a toothbrush & Paint Dept. stipling brush that I will experiment with.  However, I am open to suggestions if anyone has a proven method.

Thanks

Bob

 

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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:56 PM
Bob - I have a brush that I think would work for that, I have no idea of the name of it but I will take a pic later so you can see.  It is about 3/16 round with not soft/not stiff bristles... the bristles are cut at about a 45 deg angle and I can imagine "dry dabbing" it to get the camo... do you have a pic of the camo?  or a review that is done in that camo?  It would be interesting to try to sort that out with ya...
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Posted by osher on Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:04 PM
Just been reading up on the Spitfire Mk.II.  Basically, Supermarine built a new factory in 1939 at Castle Bromwich.  However by 1940 production still didn't start, what with constant changes to jigs etc. due to alterations to the design.  To speed things up, a version of the Spitfire Mk.I was developed just for Castle Bromwich.  It was almost identical to the original Mk.I, but called a Mk. II.  According to my book, it entered service in August 1940, i.e. in the middle of the BoB with 611 squadron.  QED, it was a BoB aircraft, if just briefly.  As it was based in Leicestershire originally, I guess it was part of 12 group's big wing.  Maybe this is why Bader ended up having one?

As for me, in a fortnight I move home, so most of my modelling stuff is packed.  I reckon I'll start this GB in late June.  Still, there is now Tornado building exactly the same aircraft as me!

Good luck everyone with the builds!

Just noticed, 6 Hurricanes, and 2 Spitfires. The right proportions for the BoB!


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Posted by PanzerWulff on Saturday, April 22, 2006 10:34 PM
 tho9900 wrote:
Bob - I have a brush that I think would work for that, I have no idea of the name of it but I will take a pic later so you can see.  It is about 3/16 round with not soft/not stiff bristles... the bristles are cut at about a 45 deg angle and I can imagine "dry dabbing" it to get the camo... do you have a pic of the camo?  or a review that is done in that camo?  It would be interesting to try to sort that out with ya...
Tom Just from the description i can tell you it is a Texture/Effects brush,it is often used in oil painting for creating bushes or grainy (as in wood) textures and such. A very slight circular scrubbing motion could probably be used to acheive a mottle effect.Use just a little paint not as dry as drybrushing but almost to that point,you should definitly practice on some scrap plastic (a primered plastic milk jug works well) to see what works best TTFN
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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, April 23, 2006 7:02 AM

 tho9900 wrote:
Bob - I have a brush that I think would work for that, I have no idea of the name of it but I will take a pic later so you can see.  It is about 3/16 round with not soft/not stiff bristles... the bristles are cut at about a 45 deg angle and I can imagine "dry dabbing" it to get the camo... do you have a pic of the camo?  or a review that is done in that camo?  It would be interesting to try to sort that out with ya...

Tom (and Chris)-thanks.  Here is a link to a pic of what I'm going to try to accomplish

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/32/2/4/55_b1

Any and all suggestions are welcome.

Thanks

Bob

 

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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:23 AM

actually for that Bob I would either use a "dry-sponge" technique..  where you dip the whole side of a sponge in paint just enough to get the outside damp then get the excess off and just lightly press it onto the side of the plane... you would need a synthetic sponge like those blue ones for the kitchen, they don't have very big pores...... 

or a 2 or 3 inch house flat house painting brush (no angle to the tip, just staight across at the end) with the same idea, did, remove excess paint then 1 dab on the side of the kit should do it.

Definitely something I would try on a milk jug first... I'll keep thinking for you, Chris is the commercial artist... maybe he can help ya out better than me...

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Posted by superbear on Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:16 AM

Hi All,  I cam across this pic while doing some clean up in the basement and I thought I'd share it with you as the start is only a few days away.

Here is a picture of 401 Sqn CAF on march past during the parade for the 50th Aniversary of  BoB in London Sept 15th 1990.  Shameless plug I'm the tall one right behind the sqn colors, I was a standard escort.  We worked hard getting ready for the parade (the RAF don't mess about when it comes to royal parades) however what a wonderfull experience.

 

Cheers

Bear

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Posted by tornado on Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:37 AM
kool pic
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:50 AM

Very cool Marc.  I've seen the changing of the Royal Guard at Buckingham Palace a few times, but never had an opportunity to see the RAF march.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by osher on Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:23 AM
Great pictures and great memories!
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Posted by PanzerWulff on Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:29 AM
Bob The effect you are going for is called "Stippleing" any fairly stiff brush with wide spaced bristles should do the trick depending on the scale a played out pig bristle brush (Errrr.WORN out ) might do the trick. Tom's house brush would also do well just barely put a little paint on the brush tap it on a piece of paper or other surface to check the amount of paint on the brush then tap it on the modelBig Smile [:D] Good Luck and TTFN
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:53 AM

Bob - I had no real clear pic in my head of stippling (I knew it was dotted paint, that's it haha)  but a lot airbrushes are able to do stippling by taking the crown cap or needle cap off.  (the last little cap on the head assembly)  which model do you have?  Maybe someone here knows if it does or not...

It's be something fun to play with!

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Posted by luftwaffle on Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:00 PM

Bob,

I built this for the ARC BoB GB that we did a short while back.  I stole some make up sponge from my wife, dipped it in a little paint and patted it on a paper towel until there was just a trace of paint left.  Blotted it on the fuselage sides until it gradually built up into the desired effect.  I'm pretty happy with the way it came out.

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, April 23, 2006 5:06 PM

Tom, Chris & luftwaffle (Mikester?)-Thanks for the suggestions.  I've got plenty of time to test out the brush & sponge techniques-and based on the picture that luftwaffle posted, that is the look I'm going for-and very nice work, I might add.

Tom-I'm using the Passahe H while the T&C Omni sits in the box awaiting some test time.  Hope to do that soon.

Bob

 

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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, April 23, 2006 5:15 PM

Agreed on Mikesters build... looks awesome!  I liked the effect as well.

Mike(ster) - was it one of those make up sponges on a stick or the wedge shaped ones?  (going to raid the wifes makeup drawer when I get the answer Wink [;)])

Bob - I can almost bet the Omni will do the stippling with needle cap off... I don't have one but it is very similar in design to my Iwatas...

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Posted by luftwaffle on Sunday, April 23, 2006 5:44 PM

Thanks for the comments guys!

Tom,

I think it's a natural sponge, my wife says it comes in kind of a ball shape and she cuts into smaller pieces.  The surface is very irregular.

HTH-

Mike

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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, April 23, 2006 6:31 PM
ahhh I know the exact one.. my wife doesn't have one but I saw them in a bin at Wal Mart.. I'm not to proud to go buy cosmetic supplies for my hobby!  Wink [;)]
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Posted by darson on Sunday, April 23, 2006 6:32 PM

Bob good luck with the Helmut Wick build.  I think the stippling issue is now solved but here is a pretty good build up article of the kit on MM.

http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/axis/luft/elejalde109e.htm

Mike nice looking Emil!!

Bear that's a cool picture you've got there, when did you get out of the CAF or are you still in?

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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, April 23, 2006 6:38 PM
I know this is for another GB, but does anyone have any reviews for the Revell DE B-26 in 1/48?  Thinking about doing it as fringe for the Midway GB.  Or has anyone built it?  (Rick? - I think you've built about one of everything... can ya help a fellow out? Wink [;)])
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Posted by superbear on Monday, April 24, 2006 7:01 AM

Darren  I took my release in 1995.  I did 12 years with the Airforce Reserves and I've been working for Air Canada for the last 18 years.  I guess I love airplanes.

 

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Bear

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Posted by darson on Monday, April 24, 2006 10:02 AM

 tho9900 wrote:
I know this is for another GB, but does anyone have any reviews for the Revell DE B-26 in 1/48?  Thinking about doing it as fringe for the Midway GB.  Or has anyone built it?  (Rick? - I think you've built about one of everything... can ya help a fellow out? Wink [;)])

Tom I have the Revell AG B-26 but haven't gotten round to building it yet.  However here are a few reviews of the kit in its Monogram boxing.

http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/allies/us/stewartb26.htm

http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/allies/us/kolb26.htm

The kit has some fit issues but aside from that I think it should build up pretty nicely.

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, April 24, 2006 10:04 AM

Sorry Tom, I've never built the B-26 in 1/48.  I'm mostly a single engine fighter fan.  From what I've heard & seen, it's pretty typical of a 30 year old Monogram kit.  Good detail for it's day but not up to modern standards.  As I recall, it may have more fit issues than the B-24 or B-25 kits, but I've seen a few built up that were pretty spectacular.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by tornado on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:34 AM

wer all hurricanes sandy cammo

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Posted by JoeRugby on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:01 AM
 rjkplasticmod wrote:

Sorry Tom, I've never built the B-26 in 1/48.  I'm mostly a single engine fighter fan.  From what I've heard & seen, it's pretty typical of a 30 year old Monogram kit.  Good detail for it's day but not up to modern standards.  As I recall, it may have more fit issues than the B-24 or B-25 kits, but I've seen a few built up that were pretty spectacular.

Regards,  Rick

I memory serves me right I believe that in the last year or so there was an article in FSM on the 1/48 Marauder.  Again, relying on memory the build was quite extensive, and there were considerable fit problems.  I will check my stacks (I have almost every issue back to 1992)

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:13 PM
 tornado wrote:

wer all hurricanes sandy cammo

What do you mean by "sandy" camo?  During the BoB, most Hurricanes were Dark Green/Dark Earth top side disruptive camo over Sky undersides.

Regards,  Rick

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