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The 2006 Patrol Torpedo Boat group build

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Posted by Al Gunthwaite on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:56 AM

I've 'done' the Great Little Ships site; emailed them and had a response (I'm not holding my breath that the 6pdr will be available during this Group Build). Whilst I have quite a few goodies on the way from them, the 6pdr is going to have to be scratch built.  There are really good plans and drawings in John Lambert's book of the Fairmile 'D'. 

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:15 AM

Al says: " I understood that the naval 6pdr and the (Airfix) anti tank gun were basically the same...(but)"

The "(But)" is right! Airfix's 6pdr has more to do with pizza cheese strings than accuracy, it is a 60's kit, you'd also need to use the naval mounting....

Checkout  http://www.djparkins.clara.net/gls/glsmast.htm

Royal Navy Coastal Forces Weapons & Fittings Sets - 

6 Pdr. Gun/PO Mounting -  is listed as not currently available, doh! but keep a weather eye out & contact them via the website!

www.john-lambert-plans.com  could help with weapons fit plans.

 

 

 

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, May 22, 2006 9:42 PM
 cthulhu77 wrote:
One thing I've found that is worth it's weight in gold is the "mouse" type of corner sander...at twenty bucks or so, it saves a ton of elbow grease (especially for us geezers) !


Greg, you just gave me an ideaShock [:O] My grand uncle gave me a cordless tool set, drill, Jigsaw, Light & a corner sander! I'll have to dig it out of the closet & try it! Thanks
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Posted by cthulhu77 on Monday, May 22, 2006 9:33 PM
One thing I've found that is worth it's weight in gold is the "mouse" type of corner sander...at twenty bucks or so, it saves a ton of elbow grease (especially for us geezers) !
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, May 22, 2006 9:09 PM
 H2O_MARK wrote:

Yeah time and money....2 things which I always seem to have less of than I would like too.

Anywhoo....I'm going to give the parts trees a bath here in a bit, that way I can at least say I've done something!



LoL Rob... I've been busy sanding down the deck but, I still have to do more on the torp tubes... seems I have a "huump" where the mounting brackets goSign - Oops [#oops]Sigh [sigh]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 22, 2006 8:28 PM

Yeah time and money....2 things which I always seem to have less of than I would like too.

Anywhoo....I'm going to give the parts trees a bath here in a bit, that way I can at least say I've done something!

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, May 22, 2006 7:21 PM
Rob, I know what ya mean about time.... LoL... As far as those books, I got the Chun Book thru Schiffer on-line & ACF vol.2 Thru Barnes & Noble. They are worth having
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Posted by Al Gunthwaite on Monday, May 22, 2006 3:45 PM

This shortage of time seems to be a real international phenomenom.

I managed to get out and buy some plasti-card and the Airfix Universal Carrier with 6pdr anti tank gun over the weekend. I understood that the naval 6pdr and the anti tank gun were basically the same...(but)

Al

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 22, 2006 1:37 PM

 Hippy-Ed wrote:
 
ALLIIED Coastal Forces vol.2 and, American PT Boats of WWII is another.
hth,
Eddie

I already have the squadron book and am looking for these two when I have the time...which seems to be in REAL SHORT supply lately!Banged Head [banghead]

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, May 22, 2006 10:34 AM
 H2O_MARK wrote:

Well what did I get done this weekend?...Lot's but sadly not much of it has anything to do with this GB!Shock [:O]

I'm un-announced as to what kit I'd be building, so I figured I'd better look around for a kit and some research materials or books. Well I found 2 of Garth's books here locally and fairly in-expensive they are the smaller squadron books. I also picked up the 109 kit ( Revell ) this weekend. I planned on ordering the Tamiya VOSPER kit, and I still might after looking over the 109 kit and seeing the potential headache it's going to be. My kit's parts have a ton of flash bad seam lines the list really does go on. Am I really up to all this work?Blush [:I]

So the kit/boat I'll be doing is still up in the air....I did notice the WEM PE set for the 109 kit. I've never ordered from them, or from overseas...period. Anything I need to be aware of if I choose to order the set?

So that's where I am, roughly half a step above where I was 2 weeks ago, which isn't very far at all.Blush [:I]



If you check out my thread in ships: "PT-109" (or go to the link in a couple posts above) you'll dind alot of info on the WEM Sets for the PT-109. I had ordered direct from WEM for the PE Sets & paints. I was surprised at how quickly it got here. The Revell PT-109 is an old mould (copyright: 1963) As for References, The Squadron PT Boats in Action is alright, ALLIIED Coastal Forces vol.2 and, American PT Boats of WWII is another.
hth,
Eddie
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 22, 2006 10:15 AM

Well what did I get done this weekend?...Lot's but sadly not much of it has anything to do with this GB!Shock [:O]

I'm un-announced as to what kit I'd be building, so I figured I'd better look around for a kit and some research materials or books. Well I found 2 of Garth's books here locally and fairly in-expensive they are the smaller squadron books. I also picked up the 109 kit ( Revell ) this weekend. I planned on ordering the Tamiya VOSPER kit, and I still might after looking over the 109 kit and seeing the potential headache it's going to be. My kit's parts have a ton of flash bad seam lines the list really does go on. Am I really up to all this work?Blush [:I]

So the kit/boat I'll be doing is still up in the air....I did notice the WEM PE set for the 109 kit. I've never ordered from them, or from overseas...period. Anything I need to be aware of if I choose to order the set?

So that's where I am, roughly half a step above where I was 2 weeks ago, which isn't very far at all.Blush [:I]

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Posted by Mavrik on Monday, May 22, 2006 4:57 AM

 cthulhu77 wrote:
How is everyone coming along?  My fingers are stained with red putty, and the dust cloud floating around my studio from the sanding could form a moon !

I started Vosper MTB by Revell: list of modifications is prepared, torpedo tubes assembled and wait for additional details. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:13 PM

I will not start until Memorial Weekend break. Have work and school to attend to. Have dry fitted and that is it.

Did see some nice Airfix boats over at airfix's galley www.airfix.com

Also noticed some unusual 1/72?, 1/76? diorama sets- beach gun emplacement and coastal fort.

 

 

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:09 PM
Deck's nearly sanded smooth, just need to get rid of rest of the planking! Man, what a taskShock [:O]
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Posted by cthulhu77 on Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:37 PM
the missus loves playing blackjack...I like looking at the eye candy!  Get that sanding done!
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, May 21, 2006 4:04 PM
Well Greg, I didn't get a darn thing done this weekendBlack Eye [B)] Had to go to Reno with my dad to drive a car back & He signed me up for a BlackJack TournamentShock [:O] Lost my butt up there but, I had fun to say the leastBig Smile [:D]
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Posted by cthulhu77 on Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:04 AM
How is everyone coming along?  My fingers are stained with red putty, and the dust cloud floating around my studio from the sanding could form a moon !
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Posted by Jon_a_its on Friday, May 19, 2006 10:33 AM

I just re-discovered this on my favorites, these might provide some inspiration!

From the Great Little Ships, RN Costal Forces Range, with credit given for John Lambert's assistance...
(I have not dealt with these people, so am not giving any personal recommendation, nor am I getting Commision!)

http://www.djparkins.clara.net/gls/glsmast.htm

& an interesting modellers' site, by Joseph Neumeyer

http://www.dynamicdioramas.org/modelindex.html

covers:  PT157, very atmospheric, in 1/32.
A Duel at sea with a Flower Class & S100 Boot, 1/72
& an S100 Boot in 1/32
When a guy this good sets a bench mark, the onlything left to do is nick the Bench!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 19, 2006 9:28 AM

Deck sanded (though, not finished yet) :

http://www.hmsvictoryscalemodels.be/PT117/photos/photo15.html

Compare to the deck before sanding :

http://www.hmsvictoryscalemodels.be/PT117/photos/photo3.html

Michel

 

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:38 PM
Greg, how about starting a list or, adding "build links" to the list on page#1?
Mine is: http://www.finescale.com/FSM/CS/forums/547311/ShowPost.aspx

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:57 PM
 cthulhu77 wrote:
 Hippy-Ed wrote:
 Mavrik wrote:

Hello.

I want to clarify the rule #7.

 cthulhu77 wrote:

   7. ...  We encourage you to have a "build thread" for your model (s) in the ship section, (don't post them here)  and hope to see a lot of work-in-progress pics.  ...

What is a best a way to use the threads? As I undrestand, the progress pictures & comments are posted under a "build thread", while research & building techniques questions can be posted here (to simplify discussion, if several participants build the same kit).

Is it correct?

 



it is to my understanding as well but, what's the gouge on this GregQuestion [?]Confused [%-)]

 

   Exactly!  Questions here, or under the various departments in "ships"...each build should have it's own thread in "ships".  It's a good idea to post pics often, as the critics can chime in with advice prior to making a severe mistake...



Thanks Greg.
Here's my thread
http://www.finescale.com/FSM/CS/forums/547311/ShowPost.aspx
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Posted by cthulhu77 on Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:54 PM
 Hippy-Ed wrote:
 Mavrik wrote:

Hello.

I want to clarify the rule #7.

 cthulhu77 wrote:

   7. ...  We encourage you to have a "build thread" for your model (s) in the ship section, (don't post them here)  and hope to see a lot of work-in-progress pics.  ...

What is a best a way to use the threads? As I undrestand, the progress pictures & comments are posted under a "build thread", while research & building techniques questions can be posted here (to simplify discussion, if several participants build the same kit).

Is it correct?

 



it is to my understanding as well but, what's the gouge on this GregQuestion [?]Confused [%-)]

 

   Exactly!  Questions here, or under the various departments in "ships"...each build should have it's own thread in "ships".  It's a good idea to post pics often, as the critics can chime in with advice prior to making a severe mistake...

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Posted by dforier on Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:09 PM

Thought I'd jump in and share some pics of projects I'm working on. All are 1/35th scale. As you can see, the Higgins PT is quite near done. The Elco is still in assembly stage, as is the BK1125. The Higgins and the BK1125 are scratch-built. The Elco is an old Viking USA resin kit that used to be available before Viking went belly-up.

If they don't show up, they're also in my gallery in Armorama.com under member DaveF, some also in Warships Discussion PT Boat

 

 

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:12 AM
 Mavrik wrote:

Hello.

I want to clarify the rule #7.

 cthulhu77 wrote:

   7. ...  We encourage you to have a "build thread" for your model (s) in the ship section, (don't post them here)  and hope to see a lot of work-in-progress pics.  ...

What is a best a way to use the threads? As I undrestand, the progress pictures & comments are posted under a "build thread", while research & building techniques questions can be posted here (to simplify discussion, if several participants build the same kit).

Is it correct?

 



it is to my understanding as well but, what's the gouge on this GregQuestion [?]Confused [%-)]
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:06 AM
 michel.vrtg wrote:

 Hippy-Ed wrote:
Man, I had to run outta town for a bit this afternoon & my hands actually thanked meSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg] I didn't realise there was this much sanding involved with  using the WEM PE sets!!Shock [:O]

 

Sorry, I did not answer your question about the torpedo tubes, just because we must be careful, and I am still busy with the deck.  The WEM PE set looks pretty good, but they might have added a 1/72 scale plan of the deck.  Also, do not forget CA glue and accelerator, to add some depth to the PE parts.



no problem michelSmile [:)] I think I figured it out on the torp tubes. I sanded everything off except the nose & tail cylinder ontop near the rear of them.  I've been sanding the deck, removing what needs to be removed as well. Gee what fun...Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:59 AM

 Hippy-Ed wrote:
Man, I had to run outta town for a bit this afternoon & my hands actually thanked meSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg] I didn't realise there was this much sanding involved with  using the WEM PE sets!!Shock [:O]

 

Sorry, I did not answer your question about the torpedo tubes, just because we must be careful, and I am still busy with the deck.  The WEM PE set looks pretty good, but they might have added a 1/72 scale plan of the deck.  Also, do not forget CA glue and accelerator, to add some depth to the PE parts.

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Posted by Mavrik on Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:19 AM

Hello.

I want to clarify the rule #7.

 cthulhu77 wrote:

   7. ...  We encourage you to have a "build thread" for your model (s) in the ship section, (don't post them here)  and hope to see a lot of work-in-progress pics.  ...

What is a best a way to use the threads? As I undrestand, the progress pictures & comments are posted under a "build thread", while research & building techniques questions can be posted here (to simplify discussion, if several participants build the same kit).

Is it correct?

 

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:34 PM
Man, I had to run outta town for a bit this afternoon & my hands actually thanked meSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg] I didn't realise there was this much sanding involved with  using the WEM PE sets!!Shock [:O]
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Posted by cthulhu77 on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:41 PM

Hey Garth,

    The front page of this post should cover all of the options that people are doing, and I will do my best to keep track of everything...if you need me to, I can email you a list later on this week of what everyone who has joined is building.  People are going to join in as time goes by, so it will be a running total.

 

           Thanks again,

                         greg ewald

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:06 PM
 PTConsultingNHR wrote:
Well,
 
None of my state libraries have these types of books, so I need to buy them. 
 
Garth


You must live in the State of Confusion!?!Wink [;)]

Well, I got the heavy details knocked down & now sanding with a finer grade to smooth things out.Big Smile [:D] man, my hands hurt!!Blush [:I]
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