The Forgotten War GB (6/25/08 - 2/28/09) - Deadline Extended Yet Again!

Thanks, Harv.  I'll take a look to see how they compare to the ones I drew....hope mine are better

The Hasegawa 1/32 kit is an F-40 wing, which has the 6-3 chord extension, slats, and the 1 foot tip extension, so it needs some work to make an E from it.  It's a great kit, I have about 4 of them.  The Kinetic kit is not bad, it is a hard 6-3 wing short wing.  Good for the late Korean War period. 

Edit:  I looked, Harv, and did not see Risner's airplane on sheet 2 or Sheet 3, Eagle Strike.  Perhaps you are referring to 1/32 Sabre Korean War decals in general? 

dirtball wrote:

SQUADRON shows them instock for $10.80. It is PART 2. Also I forgot to say the HASE kit already has the slotted wing............Harv

John,

Thanks a lot for your post. Excelent info. I already started my research on Sabres, but it is a logn way for me :). Already  have a rare kit in my posession : F-86H all resin kit. It waits for me to build in 141 ANG colors . It looks I will be pulling your brain a bit here  

Once again: Thanks a lot for such great help and expertise ! 

dupes wrote:

mucker wrote: Dupes: I've built the Academy F-86F this year and found it to be a great kit. THe cockpit suffers from bareness and you'll help yourself out by starting with aftermarket decals, but the rest of the kit was nice...especially for the price. Wow. That is SHARP! Did you go paint or foil for the NMF? And who's decals did you end up using? Someone Dirtball asked if I would consider the 1/32 Kinetic Sabre...no, but just because I don't build in 1/32. HOWEVER, I do have a 1/48 Kinetic F-84 on order currently - that suitable?

Dupes...thanks. It is Alclad II Polished Aluminum. I really like this stuff.

I also have the Kinetic F-84F...looks to be a nice kit but I've not gotten to it yet. From what I know, the swept wing "F" variant did not make it into the war. The "E" and "G" versions did, however and both the Tamiya and Revell/Monogram kits are very nice.

On a side note, there is a Cold War GB for which the F-84F would be very applicable.

gzt wrote:

John, Thanks a lot for your post. Excelent info. I already started my research on Sabres, but it is a logn way for me :). Already  have a rare kit in my posession : F-86H all resin kit. It waits for me to build in 141 ANG colors . It looks I will be pulling your brain a bit here   Once again: Thanks a lot for such great help and expertise !

Too cool. I'd love to find that kit, Greg...someday I hope to build an "H" variant

Tom, Steven, JMart and Dick:

Welcome, welcome! This is quickly becoming an all-star studded cast.

Tom: I love those deep dark blue Corsairs from Korea...can't wait to see your build.

Steven: Your Tigercat would be a welcome addition. That has got to be one of Grumman's coolest designs (uh-oh...have I just opened a can of worms?)

JMart: Alright! Armor! I was hopeing to get a well rounded GB. THanks you for joining. Now if we can just get Dupes to add some more armor...

Dick: Excellent choice of kits. You're welcome to enter an many builds as you can fit in. Looking forward to your Panther!

  John and Mucker. This is the mod I was talking about to change a -40 back to a -10 wing. Its the only major mod needed. Just remove center piece and glue tip to wing. Hope this helps. Also it is the same for any scale.........Harv

dirtball wrote:

John, I`m sorry. I thought Mucker was refering to Fishers PAPER TIGER decals. Must of had a brain f*rt or something. I`ve done some searching and I cant find what your looking for either. Sorry my friend............Harv

No problem Harv.  It happens to me all the time, especially when I say what I think is true most forcefully.  I'm trying not to do that so often myself.... 

On the wing thing, there is a much more difficult problem to deal with on the Hasegawa kit to make it a factory -10 wing.  You will see that at the wing root leading edge there is a small triangle, and that the wing leading edge overlaps the ammunition compartment door.  That indicates a 6-3 wing, and with the -10 wing it is not there.  For a -10 wing, you need to remove a section of wing at the piano hinge panel line about 10% back from the leading edge, a scale 6 inches at the root and 3 inches at the tip.  The other way to cheat is to not do that and move the panel line for the ammunition box door forward, and remove the panel line for that triangular section on the wing.   The 6-3 mod was fairly simple to do in the field because the entire leading edge of the wing was replaced simply by pulling out the hinge wires on the top and bottom of the wing and installing the new leading edge by the same method.  A fairing was added to the ammunition box door to mate up the the new forward location of the wing root, and that triangular section was quickly removable so the door could still be opened.

Beechcraft used the same wing assembly method on all of the Bonanzas, Barons, and King Airs. 

Hey...this is picking up speed faster than I thought! We've got fighters, ground support, armor, naval aircraft, air forece aircraft, multiple scales...but there is one glaring omission so far: no Migs!

If I complete mine with enough time, I'll throw in a 1/48 Tamiya Mig-15bis.

Holy cow, you're right mucker!

If I get my Thunderjet done early I'll do my Monogram Mig-15, too.

Here ya go, I just got through putting the clear-coat over the decals.

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After seeing footage of these birds operating off carriers, I might change the ordinance arrangement,though.

Also,I may have gotten the wheel well color off, but I don't know if I feel like changing it.

It's tough to tell in those old black-and-white footage shots.

Tom

Holy Cow, Tom, that's fast! So fast that the GB hasn't yet kicked off!!!

I really do like those deep blue Corsairs. If it were up for a vote, I'd say you should build that lovely Corsair a brother!

 Yeah, it is one of those I had going before I broke my right shoulder and left foot a little over a year ago.

It's actually not totally finished, and since I have others in my backlog, and I am just now recovering form a broken right sholder socket, I don't see the need to build a twin.

It's up to you whether you want to include it or not.

Tom

Post edit:

As for the history, this aircraft was very successful in functioning for the U.S. Navy, since it could operate off the smaller carriers then the jets.

The combination of napalm, rockets cannon and 500 lb bombs was devastating to enemy troops and vehicles.

In fact it was an F4U-4 that claimed an early Mig-15 kill.

mucker wrote:

Hey...this is picking up speed faster than I thought! We've got fighters, ground support, armor, naval aircraft, air forece aircraft, multiple scales...but there is one glaring omission so far: no Migs! If I complete mine with enough time, I'll throw in a 1/48 Tamiya Mig-15bis.

But...but...I thought EVERYBODY was required to build at least one MiG-15.  We can't be running out of targets.  And what about Po-2's.  Maybe I'll do one of mine.  Gotta have a Bed Check Charlie out there.

Mucker,

I'd like to join this build if possible.  I have an F-86F about 50% done and would also like to work in a MonogramA/B-26C, both in 1/48.  Thanks!

Steve

jeaton01 wrote:

mucker wrote: Hey...this is picking up speed faster than I thought! We've got fighters, ground support, armor, naval aircraft, air forece aircraft, multiple scales...but there is one glaring omission so far: no Migs! If I complete mine with enough time, I'll throw in a 1/48 Tamiya Mig-15bis. But...but...I thought EVERYBODY was required to build at least one MiG-15.  We can't be running out of targets.  And what about Po-2's.  Maybe I'll do one of mine.  Gotta have a Bed Check Charlie out there.

Great point, John...I'd love to see a Po-2 or even a Shooting Star! Maybe one of these days we cna do a build where you have to build one from each side!

Tom: Can I leave you as TBD in case you have another kit that fits? I was hoping to have each build at least part of the GB....even partial builds. I'd still love to have you in the GB...

AJB93: Let me know what you come up with. Maybe a self-present for the big B-Day?

Steve: welcome aboard. The A/B-26 will be cool to have. Are you going to be working on the F-86F prior to 6/25? I'm hoping to have the builds (even already started) fit into to timeframe so we can all enjoy the progress...

GAmodelmaker: Excellent choice and neat idea. I'm glad this gives you a chance to get to this kit.

deathrattler32: Let me know what you come up with. Welcome aboard!

Anyone for a M.A.S.H. model?...or is that Vietnam? I should know this....

deathrattler32 wrote:

M.A.S.H was korea

WooHoo! I got it!

mucker wrote:

AJB93: Let me know what you come up with. Maybe a self-present for the big B-Day?

Maaaybe  

Well that was fast! I ordered my Sabre from Sprue Bros. on Tuesday and it arrived today...wow!

Now I have to figure out what I want to do with the wing. The Hasegawa has the hard wing and I need the pre-"6-3" slotted wing. John says the Revelogram F-86D wing works well...I wonder how it fits up to the HAsegawa fuselage?

Anyone out there try this yet?

Charles-

Grea idea for a GB!  I really wish I wasn't already over-booked so I could participate.   If you do another one next year, hopefully I can join that one.

Best of luck to you all!