The Forgotten War GB (6/25/08 - 2/28/09) - Deadline Extended Yet Again!

     John,(and anyone else interested) I found my destruction sheet that came with decal sheet about F86 wings and such. If you cant read email me or PM me and I`ll send over the internet,OK?..................Harv

mucker wrote:

Well that was fast! I ordered my Sabre from Sprue Bros. on Tuesday and it arrived today...wow! Now I have to figure out what I want to do with the wing. The Hasegawa has the hard wing and I need the pre-"6-3" slotted wing. John says the Revelogram F-86D wing works well...I wonder how it fits up to the HAsegawa fuselage? Anyone out there try this yet?

I think it has been done Charles, and I have done some test fitting.  The D had a deeper fuselage so the F center section/wheel well area has to be used.  I'm going to start working on it pretty soon.  There is a panel line at the lower root with small round impressions in it,  That is where I plan to do the join, and it is where the full scale wing joins to the fuselage.  The upper wing doesn't look like it will be too big of a problem, it is a 90 degree fit to the fuselage.

Here is a view of the F-86F-20 lower wing attach area:

Thanks Charles!

mucker wrote:

Thanks, Frank....if your plans change (and I KNOW you've got a Mig in that stash somewhere!), you're welcome to join at any time.

Have you been peeking in my stash again?

Hey Mucker!

The F-86 is about 50% done but I won't be doing anything with it until after 6/25.  I'll get some photo's posted before I do any additional work.  Thanks!

Steve

Harv:

Thanks.  I had no trouble reading it.   I have read in more than one place that F-86E's did get the mod, but since I wasn't there and they didn't send me notification when they did it (hey I was 5 or 6 at the time, why not!) I guess I can't prove any did.

yeah know, technically the Korean War didn't end...

there was a cease fire but not it didn't end in the early '50s as most people think. When I was there in 83-84 I still received credit from the VFW for particpating in the Korean War. That considered...does that mean I can build an F-16 from Kunsan or an A-10 from Suwon?

Now maybe I'm wrong about this, but wan't the armistice signed by the U.S. and North Korea? I guess the War is still going on between North and South Korea.

As for your F-16, that would be great for the Cold War build....or maybe we could just have a new, very relaxed Cold Beer GB?!?!?

This build got me thinking of other Korean War era fighters and 'window' shoping on ebay. I just bought a Testors(Hawk) 1/48 F2H-2 Banshee.

I realize it's a dated kit and not really of a F2H-2 but I found some on-line conversion articles that made me want to give it a try. Can't promise I'll do it for this build.

Now there's one you don't see modeled every day. An older Hawk kit sounds challenging...especially with a conversion kit involved. Keep window shopping and let me know what you decide. There is nothing against multiple entries, too!

Here was my inspiration for the purchase. Dan Fogal's build from a 2007 on-line article of his build from Hyperscale:

http://www.hyperscale.com/2007/features/f2h2df_1.htm

That looks to be pretty ambitious...and awarding when you complete it. Personally I'm hoping you go for it as it adds a rare bird to this GB.

Out of ignorance I ask: what are the differences between the Banshee and the Panther? They look pretty similar.

Other than the Panther being made by Grumman and the Banshee by McDonnell, the Panther is shorter in length, and wing span - it's a bit beefer looking than the more slender Banshee.

The Banshee seems to have been overshadowed by the Panther as a Navy Fighter from the Korean War era, even though all counts point to it being every bit as good as the Panther. Maybe in part because McDonnell was a relatively new aircraft manufacturer and Grumman was already well known for it's previous 'cats', the Wildcat and Hellcat. Also, the Panther got to be featured in a motion picture ('The Bridges at Toko Ri'). 

Well, maybe I should do it and take my time since it is a rather rare bird compared to what else is being done. So make my primary the Banshee. 

Well Guys:

I'm not the most artistic guy in the world. I'm not even a close second, but what do you think of this concept for a badge?

Here is is smaller:

I'll work on the font to make it more legible.

Aurora-7 wrote:

Other than the Panther being made by Grumman and the Banshee by McDonnell, the Panther is shorter in length, and wing span - it's a bit beefer looking than the more slender Banshee. The Banshee seems to have been overshadowed by the Panther as a Navy Fighter from the Korean War era, even though all counts point to it being every bit as good as the Panther. Maybe in part because McDonnell was a relatively new aircraft manufacturer and Grumman was already well known for it's previous 'cats', the Wildcat and Hellcat. Also, the Panther got to be featured in a motion picture ('The Bridges at Toko Ri').  Well, maybe I should do it and take my time since it is a rather rare bird compared to what else is being done. So make my primary the Banshee.

That's interesting, Chris. I really enjoy the learning side of these Group Builds...

It would be neat to see one side-by-side to compare the size and shape differences of those w planes. From the little reading I've since done, it looks like the Banshee was used more for the long escort role by both the Navy and the Marines.

That's true about the Banshees early roles in the War.

Ultimately, I'll have my Banshee, Panther and a converted  Skyradier together for Korean War carrier based aircraft.

mucker wrote:

I like it.

EDIT - anyone know the max allowable height of a badge pic?

I size my badge at 130 or so pixels in height, but I think it does say the maximum somewhere in the thread in the community forum.  I seem to remember 150.  130 seems to allow enough size for the readability of most text.

I like the badge put forth.

deathrattler32 wrote:

I like the badge and just in case u didnt see since it hasnt changed on the list i am goin to build the M-40 Big Shot for the gb

I'll get that changed. This is the AFV Club kit, yes?

John, Harv:

I have my Hasegawa F-86F kit and just received my Revell AG F-86D kit...this weekend I'll try some dry fitting to see if indeed the Sabre Dog wings can be used. I'll be pumped if it's successful, as it will save some major surgery by these clumsy hands.

mucker wrote:

John, Harv: I have my Hasegawa F-86F kit and just received my Revell AG F-86D kit...this weekend I'll try some dry fitting to see if indeed the Sabre Dog wings can be used. I'll be pumped if it's successful, as it will save some major surgery by these clumsy hands.

Ain't sayin' how, but I KNOW it'll work very well indeed with the Academy kit!!

Mucker,

You can put me down to build the Heller 1/72 F-84G Thunderjet. Not sure of the markings yet but it will be United States probably based at Taegu (K-9) South Korea.

Brian