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The Forgotten War GB (6/25/08 - 2/28/09) - Deadline Extended Yet Again!

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  • From: galt, ca.
Posted by dirtball on Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:38 PM

   Steven, I think its going to look GREAT!! Keep it up!  Well this is it for the weekend. I know its not much, but its a start.Worked 6 days this week so the little time I had I split between my  corsair and 86. So this is what i have sofar. Enjoy.............Harv

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Posted by mucker on Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:48 PM

Steven, Harv: nice progress so far. Keep the pics coming. Like you said, Harv, it's a start. It feels goo to get those first few pieces cut, sanded and glued together, doesn't it. You're officially on the way!

Mike: You're treading a fine line there on vacation!!! If I was checking Finescale while away on vacation and she caught me....ooh, I don't even want to think about it!!Black Eye [B)] She let's me "play" just about all year long, so vacation time is her time.

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Posted by bobbaily on Monday, June 30, 2008 6:18 AM
 mucker wrote:

Mike: You're treading a fine line there on vacation!!! If I was checking Finescale while away on vacation and she caught me....ooh, I don't even want to think about it!!Black Eye [B)] She let's me "play" just about all year long, so vacation time is her time.

Wiser words have never been spoken!  I ended up not packing the Sherman for our family vacation (which was great) so more time could be spent with the family.  Therefore, the Mustang will get first priority and maybe the Sherman will make the build list.....however, the interior of the F-51 has been painted with detailing to follow (after another project in the queue).

Nice progress from the rest of the group...still trying to get caught up reading posts!

Bob

 

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Posted by mucker on Monday, June 30, 2008 8:22 AM

What a conundrum....I've found another kit that I should be receiving today that qualifies for this GB: the Hobbycraft T-33 in Korean War markings. I'm thinking of trying to work this one in, as well.

I've buily a few Hobbycraft kits before but have always used AM decals. Has anyone out there used Hobbycraft decals? how are they? I know the Academy ones are notorious for being unworkable...but how were the older Hobbycraft ones?

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Posted by dirtball on Monday, June 30, 2008 10:25 AM

  Mucker, just build it...Acualy I`d love to see the T33 built up. Should look great.....Harv

   

"I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I`ll never know!"
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Posted by dirtball on Wednesday, July 2, 2008 1:36 AM
HEY...Anyone out there??OK. Started fitting my resin pit today. No pics yet.It should be a winner though..........Harv
"I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I`ll never know!"
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Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, July 2, 2008 7:07 PM

Progress tonight - I've put down a splotchy black paint job on the Tigercat to hopefully replicate a hasty night fighter conversion.  What you see is intentional (the insignia blue undercoat still shows through the flat black overcoat) but I may soften it up a bit with a final misting of flat black.  I could conceivably complete this build over the upcoming holiday weekend (if life lets me).

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Wednesday, July 2, 2008 7:40 PM
Hey I really like that Tigercat!  I might have to add that one to the stash - how's it been to build so far? 

 

 

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Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, July 2, 2008 7:49 PM
Not quite to the quality of Tamiya-Hasegawa-Accurate Miniatures, but it has basically put itself together.  Very little difficulty in reaching this point.  It's an Italeri rebox of the old AMT/ERTL mold but without the rubber tires that apparently would eat the plastic if you used them.  Having built a couple of previous kits by Italeri, I'd rate this kit as the best from them that I've ever built.
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Posted by dirtball on Thursday, July 3, 2008 10:51 AM
  Happy 4th to all!! Have a safe & fun holiday.....Dont forget why we celebrate it!!.......Harv
"I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I`ll never know!"
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Posted by mucker on Thursday, July 3, 2008 11:47 AM

Same to you, Harv! Have a nice, safe, relaxing Holiday.

To quote John Adams:

The Second Day of July 1776, will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance by solemn Acts of Devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more. You will think me transported with Enthusiasm but I am not. I am well aware of the Toil and Blood and Treasure, that it will cost Us to maintain this Declaration, and support and defend these States. Yet through all the Gloom I can see the Rays of ravishing Light and Glory. I can see that the End is more than worth all the Means. And that Posterity will tryumph in that Days Transaction, even altho We should rue it, which I trust in God We shall not.

(The Book of Abigail and John: Selected Letters of the Adams Family, 1762-1784, Harvard University Press, 1975, 142).

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Posted by dirtball on Thursday, July 3, 2008 12:43 PM
   Mucker, thank you very much. Very nice history lesson there. I don`t think I have ever read or heard that before!. It about somes the whole thing up, dosn`t it??.............Harv
"I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I`ll never know!"
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Posted by mg.mikael on Thursday, July 3, 2008 3:21 PM

Okay here's my first update so far... and a quick history about the M-30 Howitzer.

This howitzer was developed in late 1930s, and was in production from 1939 to 1955. It became well-known for its simplicity, reliability, and firepower. The M-30 saw action in WWII, mainly as a divisional artillery piece of the Red Army. Captured guns were employed by Wehrmacht and the Finnish Army. Post World War II, the M-30 saw combat in numerous conflicts during the mid to late twentieth century. Technology of this howitzer was ahead of its time, demonstrated by the fact that it was used by Soviet forces in the Soviet-Afghan War in the seventies. The M-30 was also mounted on the following armored fighting vehicles, the SU-122, SG-122, and 12,2-cm Kanone (r) auf Geschützwagen Lorraine-Shlepper.

 All my progress so far.....not many problems, except fit issues with pieces.

Sorry the pic came out a little blurry. The barrel had some major fit issues so alot of sanding was neccesary to get rid of the seam.  Yes, their is an AM barrel from Model Point for about $11.00. But I only paid $16.00 for the entire kit, so I didn't feel like spending that much for a barrel.

All questions, comments, or compliments are welcome!Smile [:)]

 

 

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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Posted by Aaronw on Thursday, July 3, 2008 4:54 PM

Ok, I can no longer resist. Go ahead and put me down for an F-84E Thunderjet. I probably won't be able to get a lot done for awhile but it looks simple enough so I should have plenty of time to get it done before the end of the build.

 

The kit will be the 1/72 Academy F-84 E/G Thunderjet

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Posted by JMart on Thursday, July 3, 2008 6:02 PM

mg.mikael - very nice start, thanks for the mini-lesson, makes the build have a good context! Lookforward to the rest...

 

John - thanks for the heads up on the book Crimson Tide, Im having my local public library try to get via interlibrary loan. In the meantime, I decided to read Max Hasting's tome (The Korean War); he is one of my favorite military history authors.

 

 

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Posted by mucker on Thursday, July 3, 2008 6:27 PM
 Aaronw wrote:

Ok, I can no longer resist. Go ahead and put me down for an F-84E Thunderjet.

Evil [}:)] Come to the dark side, Skywalker...

I knew you couldn't resist Wink [;)] Welcome to the GB. The Thunderjets are such sleek and sexy birds. Can't wait to see yours

Mg.Mikael: Nice progress. I appreciate the little history lesson as well. It's amazing how long '30's technology was used, especially when you consider how often tanks, planes, guns, etc. were updated.

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Posted by mucker on Saturday, July 5, 2008 4:38 PM

How's everyone doing? I'm just about at the decal stage with my prior commitment, and should start probalby next week on a Sabre.

I hope your 4th weekend is safe, relaxing and memorable.

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Posted by Aggieman on Saturday, July 5, 2008 5:33 PM

Charles,

Hope it was a good 4th for you and your's.  I've just put the decals on my Tigercat and it's currently sitting out there with the setting solution doing its thing.  I've managed to complete nearly all of the detail painting, ie, stuff I don't do with the AB and that I usually wait to do toward the end.  I still have to install brake lines to the main LG and paint the frame work for the windscreen and canopies, and then whatever weathering I'm going to do.  Pictures will follow once the 'Cat is ready to handle again.

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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, July 5, 2008 5:34 PM
The F-51 has received some interior paint.  It is being set aside to work on another project, which I hope to have complete by the end of July.  I've learned the hard way, that short of combining air brushing (two or three interior green cockpits for pending builds, for example) that I need to stick to the "one at a time" rule.  I've seen others juggle two or three at a time, but I can't.

Bob

 

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Posted by GA.modelmaker on Saturday, July 5, 2008 7:01 PM

ok guys i am about to start on this gb now. i have just a few more tiny bits and do the tracks for the priest kangaroo. i hope to start on the jeep monday as i am going fishing on sunday. so here is what i am going to build for this gb.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, July 5, 2008 7:12 PM

I've been making headway on the Sabre, I have the fuselage closed up and the wings on.  I have had some problems with the fit around the nose, it seems like Acaademy got the cockpit tub a little too wide, which surprised me because compared to the Hasegawa kit the instrument panel is too small.  The Eduard Hasegawa PE won't fit at all on the panel.  I may have squeezed the nose together too much, but not much.  A lot of pieces come together at once up there.  Bash to fit.  Paint to match, and there you have it!

I did get a little sidetracked.  I'm building it with the fuselage together with the engine on a cart.  There is a cart in the kit for the aft fuselage, but not for the engine, which does come with the kit.  Same thing is true of the Hasegawa 1/32 Sabre, what's up with that?  Using plastic tubing, rod, h-beams, and wheels and towbar from a Pro-Modeler bomb cart I built an engine cart.  Paint is drying on it now.  I also modified a ladder from I think a Pro-Modeler F-102 to lay on the ground for clutter.  Haven't found a picture of a Sabre with a ladder yet, but it must have happened sometime. 

I had a spare tailpipe from a Hasegawa Sabre, so all is good there.  It fit fine in the Academy fuselage. 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by Aaronw on Saturday, July 5, 2008 7:14 PM
 GA.modelmaker wrote:

ok guys i am about to start on this gb now. i have just a few more tiny bits and do the tracks for the priest kangaroo. i hope to start on the jeep monday as i am going fishing on sunday. so here is what i am going to build for this gb.

 

That Jeep is a fun little build. I did one about two years ago, just a nice stress free build.

 

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Posted by GA.modelmaker on Saturday, July 5, 2008 7:51 PM
nice build thier aaron i hope mine turns out that good. i have plans for this little guy. i have something cooking in my brain for a dio. i just need to learn how to paint figures.
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Posted by sanderson_91 on Sunday, July 6, 2008 9:52 AM

I've also gotten some good work done on my F-86, the wings are attached and the gun sight has received some extra attention.  The canopies have been given a bath in Future and I'm getting ready to paint.  This will be my first attempt using Alclad II so I'm a bit nervous. 

I have not started on the A/B-26C yet, however the Big Ed detail set was delivered last week so I will get started soon.  Right now I can't decide on whether or not to re-scribe the panel lines or not. 

 

 

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Posted by deathrattler32 on Sunday, July 6, 2008 10:12 AM

Ok whats up all looks like good progress goin so far.Figured i would stop in and let everybody know where i am at,I finally got to order my M-40 "Big Shot" and ordered T80 workable track and a A/M photoetch detail set for so should be a interesting build.

And since we are doin Korea and i just finished my 1/32nd Kinetics F-86F-30 Sabre I know i didnt put it in the build but since we was talkin about Aclad II,I figured i would show it in here and let u all tell me what u think enjoy.

 

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Posted by mucker on Sunday, July 6, 2008 10:59 AM

I know one thing...you guys are way ahead of me in the progress department...nice stuff.

Steven: What a teaser! Keep those pics flowing.

Bob: I'm with you...I've attempted simultaneous builds but found it slowed down the progress on both.

GA: Cool looking kit.

John: You've got a real kitbash going on there...Any pics of your progress?

Aaron: That jeep came out great!

Sanderson: Alclad is one of the easiest ways to apply NMF. As you've undoubtedly read, it's about surface preparartion and then priming. I've found Future cured for 48 hours works great as a primer.

It's the rescribe that gives me the willies!

Deathrattler: What did you think of the Kinetic kit? I'm buildingthe 1/48 Thunderstreak right now and think it a fabulous kit.

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  • From: peoria il.
Posted by deathrattler32 on Sunday, July 6, 2008 11:16 AM
It was a decent build actually a easy build went together easy u can build it where u take the back half of the plane apart comes with the cart that holds the back of the plane so u can see all the engine but i really didnt want to go through all the cutting the yellow band decal to achieve that and it seemed when all the parts were inside of the plane to detail the engine it didnt want to butt together right so i just closed it all up and the canopy didnt want to sit down on the plane when it was close i trimmed and did everyting to get it to fit right but just wouldnt sit down flush so i did it the easy way just left it open and the decals were easy to work with never had one problem with them they just seemed alittle out of scale to big in my opinion but that is me just had to trim them to get them to look right
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Posted by dirtball on Sunday, July 6, 2008 11:49 AM
    Mucker, dont feel bad. I havent gotten a thing done besides the rear half and LOOK at the front half. I did managed to cut up the wheel wells for the PE stuff. Maybe some pics tonight. The rest of ya, slow down! Your making the rest of us look like slakers(jk).All that have posted pics, good job. This is going to be a killer GB.............Harv
"I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I`ll never know!"
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Posted by Aaronw on Sunday, July 6, 2008 11:50 AM

That F-86 came out really nice, I'm planning on trying out Alclad on my F-84, never used it before so that will be interesting.

Well I got as far as washing the sprues for the F-84, hopefully I'll start on the cockpit tonight.

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Posted by Aggieman on Sunday, July 6, 2008 2:48 PM

Looks like I'm the first to finish (but it was a cross-over build).

Here is my second entry to this group build, the F7F 3N Tigercat in 1/48th by Italeri (from am AMT/ERTL mold).  This kit was a good kit for the most part.  It went together easily.  Instruction booklet left something to be desired in terms of accurate painting guide and did not include any "gotcha's" like Accurate Miniatures instruction booklets do.  More on that in a bit.

My biggest complaint about the kit was the main canopy.  It was not shaped properly and did not align itself well to the surrounding fuselage.  I had intended to install it in the open position but there was simply no way that piece was going to look good if installed open.  So I closed it up.

The biggest "gotcha" I encountered was with the rockets.  The rockets were the first parts I put together, which is a departure for me in that I usually put parts like that together last.  In any event, the instructions are pictures only with no verbiage to guide one in the proper construction.  I probably should have spent more time researching these rockets, but I did not and now have only 2 rockets attached to the wings.  The reason is that the separate pieces for the fins should have been installed as an "X" rather than a "+" at the end of the rocket body, and then there would have been room to fasten each rocket.  Because the fins were in the "+" orientation, each horizontal fin overlapped.  Really ticked at myself about this, but I'll get over it.

I hand-painted the canopy framing and I'm generally pleased with that work although the pictures show that the blue could stand to be re-touched.  Will do that later tonight.  As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I started out by painting the entire structure insignia blue and then followed that with a "splotchy" flat black coating.  The idea was to replicate a hastily re-painted aircraft that had been transferred from a Navy to a Marines squadron.  I don't know if that's the true history of this particular aircraft but it sounded good.

I put a ton of weight in the nose and all of my testing indicated that I had enough weight to keep this from being a tail sitter.  The real Tigercat had a propensity for tail sitting, so I guess I wasn't surprised once I got everything put together, painted, and the landing gear installed that even though the center of gravity leaned toward the nose, it plopped right onto its tail the moment I put it on its LG.  So I constructed and painted the barrel/box combination that comes with the kit and is intended to prop up this aircraft.

I photographed this kit on an Eduard PSP display base that I have not painted as of this moment.  Eventually I'll get that base painted and get some fake railroad grass "planted" in the cracks, but that's not something I want to tackle today.

This is a US Marines bird attached to VMF (N) 513 operating out of Pyontaek (K-6) air base in Korea in 1952.

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