The Forgotten War GB (6/25/08 - 2/28/09) - Deadline Extended Yet Again!

Yes, Harv, I believe you did!

(Thanks!)

Maybe this is just a pet peeve of mine...but do we really need this whole "bump" thing? Especially for a GB that hasn't even started yet?

It probably has something to do with the fact that I'm saddled with dialup, and have to take a lot more time to check out posts than most people...but I suppose I would prefer there to be some actual info that sets off the "my forums" alarm! Just my .

I never really looked at it from the perspective, but it makes sense...you zoom over to see the latest post and it's a "bump" post. And like you said, it technically hasn;t started yet.

On the other hand, I know Harv means well and is chomping at the bit to get going (as am I).

Summer really has slowed down my builds. I want to finish my Cold War GB entry before moving on the the Sabre and Mig. A few weeks ago that looked possible, but I've made almost no progress since.

Does the summer affect you guys the same?

  Dups, no harm ment. As Mucker said, never looked at it that way. I just hate to see threads im involved with flownder off to the bottom or the "DREADED" page TWO. Sorry.

  So far, Summer has ment a big slow down for me right now. Alot of hard , hot SWING SHIFT work. Rather draining . Its been near 100 here in the valley all week. Havent touched any plastic for all most 3 weeks now due to wonderful family and friends visiting. But things are getting settled down here now and hope to start back up!! Realy looking forward to this build. MUCKER, I too have a MIG 15bis, but dont put me down for it. At least not yet.............Harv

I hear you, Harv. As tough as it is with virtually no benchtime, it's hard to complain becuase I'm fortunate to spend a lot of quality time outside with the family.

Once you finish your Sabre, you'll need something to shoot down. Don't put that Mig too far away from the bench!

Two more days to go (if you're not counting today)!

 I have been reading the book "Odd Man Out", which talks about the lead-up to the Korean War, nthe positions of the USA, USSR and China, and more personally Truman, Stalin and Mao. I won't give too much away, but the author's theory of the outbreak of war differs from traditional history and is quite interesting. It's a long read in that it is mainly facts and historical perspective (it's not a novel), but worth the time if the topic is of interest to you.

Summer IS my modelling season! no school, many days working out of home (Im a college prof), no cold weather (my paint booth is an unheated attached garage), kids old enough to help with chores :)

I wont start my Tamiya M41 walker bulldog for a couple months, have other  Gbs to finish and I just started my 350 scale ship project for the year

I also scored two used books at the Public library for 4$ total - Breakout and Chosin, both dealing with the aforementioned campaign, one of my mil his favs

So Im ready

Aggieman wrote:

Summer has brought me to a near standstill on modeling.  Took a 2-week vacation and really could use a vacation from my vacation now.

Steven: You must have kids....

Don't tell me the epoxy and Tenax temporararily melted and deforemd major parts of the plastic before turning rock hard? By chance do you have pics of the damage?

JMart wrote:

Summer IS my modelling season! no school, many days working out of home (Im a college prof), no cold weather (my paint booth is an unheated attached garage), kids old enough to help with chores :) I wont start my Tamiya M41 walker bulldog for a couple months, have other  Gbs to finish and I just started my 350 scale ship project for the year I also scored two used books at the Public library for 4$ total - Breakout and Chosin, both dealing with the aforementioned campaign, one of my mil his favs So Im ready

JMart: Sounds like you've got it made. I prefer Winter when I can crawl down into my man-cave and hibernate for long periods of time.

Good score on the books. If you pick up anything note worthy on the books, please dont hesitate to share.

mucker wrote:

JMart wrote: Summer IS my modelling season! no school, many days working out of home (Im a college prof), no cold weather (my paint booth is an unheated attached garage), kids old enough to help with chores :) I wont start my Tamiya M41 walker bulldog for a couple months, have other  Gbs to finish and I just started my 350 scale ship project for the year I also scored two used books at the Public library for 4$ total - Breakout and Chosin, both dealing with the aforementioned campaign, one of my mil his favs So Im ready JMart: Sounds like you've got it made. I prefer Winter when I can crawl down into my man-cave and hibernate for long periods of time. Good score on the books. If you pick up anything note worthy on the books, please dont hesitate to share.

Oh I pay for it during the school year, its lifeforce-sucking at times... funny, my kids also call my workshop my "cave" (half-basement).

you know, there IS a dearth of good books on the Korean war.. let me do some research to see what I can find, I always like to be reading something about the "context" of the kid I am building.

Charles,

Steven: You must have kids...." border="0" width="15" height="15" /> Don't tell me the epoxy and Tenax temporararily melted and deforemd major parts of the plastic before turning rock hard? By chance do you have pics of the damage?

Yes to point #1 ...

It wasn't anything like that at all.  In fact I think it's pretty much exactly opposite.  After I sealed up the fuselage halves, I let it sit for a day or so and when I got back out there to inspect it, I noticed some ooze coming out of the nose wheel bay and into the cockpit.  I'm no chemical person, but I'm thinking that the Tenax (fumes, perhaps) may have prevented the epoxy from doing what it does.  I've put it aside for the time being and from time to time have re-inspected it.  The oozing appears to be less now but there is still a sticky residue that comes out.  I don't much like the idea of proceeding with the build and having some epoxy residue ruin whatever paint job I would put on it.  Not really sure what I should do with it, but I don't have any photos of this mess.

JMart wrote:

mucker wrote:  JMart wrote:   Oh I pay for it during the school year, its lifeforce-sucking at times... funny, my kids also call my workshop my "cave" (half-basement). you know, there IS a dearth of good books on the Korean war.. let me do some research to see what I can find, I always like to be reading something about the "context" of the kid I am building.

I read Crimson Sky not long ago, it was pretty good as a history of the air side.  By John Bruning.

So isn't today the day???

Who's going to be the first one to crank something out?

dupes wrote:

So isn't today the day??? Who's going to be the first one to crank something out?

I brought my Banshee to the office today. I don't know how much I'll get done but I'll post something before midnight tonight!

jeaton01 wrote:

JMart wrote:  mucker wrote:  JMart wrote:   Oh I pay for it during the school year, its lifeforce-sucking at times... funny, my kids also call my workshop my "cave" (half-basement). you know, there IS a dearth of good books on the Korean war.. let me do some research to see what I can find, I always like to be reading something about the "context" of the kid I am building. I read Crimson Sky not long ago, it was pretty good as a history of the air side.  By John Bruning.

I'll have to check that one out at the library. Another interesting book was Hot Shots, which told a few exerpts from individual pilot experiences, including Harold Fisher's ejection and time spent in a Chinese prison.

Aurora-7 wrote:

dupes wrote: So isn't today the day??? Who's going to be the first one to crank something out? I brought my Banshee to the office today. I don't know how much I'll get done but I'll post something before midnight tonight!

I was hoping to get right into mine, but I'm overdue on my Cold War GB bird. Still trying to finish it off. At my current pace, I should get to it in a few weeks. Unfortunately.

John (and others):

I did a little test fitting this morning of the Hasegawa F-86F-30 fuselage with the RoG F-86D Sabre Dog wings. While dimensionally they line up close enough to call "accurate", there is too big of a gap in front and behind the wing piece. At least his is my initial analysis.

I tried this with an Academy fuselage as well and found the same results. Do you have pics of your experience with this kit-bash?

I am still looking for a resin wing set to possibly try the surgery...

Charles:

Here is how I think it can be done.  The lower center section has to be used from an F kit, there is no way to use the D wing center section because the D is much deeper in the fuselage than the F.   I separated the wings from the center section at the panel lines that have all the holes between them, that is where the full scale Sabre wing attaches to the fuselage. Using the Academy F kit and the Revell Germany D kit the fit is excellent.  I haven't tried the Hasegawa kit, or the old Monogram F kit yet for fit.

I have the Aeroclub resin conversion for the initial Sabre wing, and it will be more work than this is.  The OP Cutting Edge set was the same.  You have to cut the wing from root to tip and also modify the tip to get rid of the 1 foot extensions.  Not for the faint of heart, especially when an nmf finish is needed.  Then when you are done you still don't have the proper wing sweep, as the D kit is much better that way. 

Rough cut on the Academy wing:

Rough cut on the Revell Germany D wing:

D outer wing panels attached to F center section.  I filed and sanded up to the double panel line edges to keep the join precise, keeping the wing join panel line on the center section and losing it on the wings.

Initial fit of upper wing panels to fuselage.  Some care will be needed to keep the slight dihedral the Sabre has.

Darnit, John! You make it look so easy!

I've also recently learned of a soon-to-be resin set from scobiedo poductions out of Canada. Supposedly it replaces the entire lower and upper wing portion, and all you do is clean up the fillet area. I'll let you know if I hear any more about it.

I'm still debating what to do.

The only thing I really did was to cut out the opening more for the cockpit, which itself will need to be scratch built.

Nothing worth to post, plus I was too tired last night to look for the camera. I'll be using two articles from builders who also built the Testors/Hawk kit with modifications. One is an on-line source I sited in an earlier post in this thread and the other is a Finescale Modeler issue from 2007. 

Nothing more from me until after the 7th of July when the wife and I get back from our trip.

Enjoy that vacation.

I'll be looking forward to some pics hopefull after you return.

Vacation picks or build picks?

Couldn' resist a peak at the forum (bless shipboard satellite internet connection).

Seriously considered bringing some parts to scratchbuild the cockpit until I reviewed the airport exclusion list of materials to fly with. Paints and adhesives are on the list. Probably just as well, though I would have considered some modeling as part of my vacation - the wife might think different.

Progress on my Tigercat.

All of the components are constructed and painted.  My intent with this build is the try to duplicate a Korean US Marines Tigercat that had been acquired from the Navy's fleet and had been previously painted dark blue, and then hastily painted black for night fighting operations.