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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 21, 2017 9:59 PM

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 21, 2017 10:03 PM

I did not know that michael , did they have anything in their place ?

steve5

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:22 AM

 Yes Steve, there were 2 six pounders. I've never used any blackening agent just a black sharpie and a light touch up as needed with black paint.

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Posted by ejhammer on Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:38 AM

I use "Birchwood Casey" brand brass black. Works on brass and solder, sometimes even on stainless wire to make it look aged, as well as copper and bronze. They also have one for blackening aluminum. I got mine at a gun dealer store.

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:24 PM

thank's ejhammer , michael ,- now I have a couple of option's .

I would like to pester the brotherhood a bit more , 1765 , would have been too early for brass plate's on the hull , right ?

steve5

 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:01 PM

Steve,

According to this:

http://www.academia.edu/358814/The_Introduction_and_Use_of_Copper_Sheathing_-_A_History

the Victory was first sheathed with copper in 1780.

See page 25 just below the middle of the page with the large paragraph.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:29 PM

thank's mike for that , found it very interesting reading . only read page 25 , will get a nice glass of vino tonight and read the rest , cheer's mate .

steve

 

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, August 24, 2017 4:40 PM

I need someone to tell me what this particular piece does . I just know it is on there .

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:18 PM

I think it had something to do with the anchor, but not exactly sure what?

 

Michael D.

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, August 25, 2017 12:36 AM

it might have been a guard , to protect the chain's , michael .?

I really miss the prof.Sad  , he was such , an incredible , fountain of knowledge , as well as being such a humble man .

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Friday, August 25, 2017 8:07 AM

That makes sense since the channels and chains were much lower then. May God bless the Prof soul.

 

Michael D

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Posted by dafi on Friday, August 25, 2017 9:45 AM
It is to protect bow and channels from the anchors :-) It was a standard feature of almost all english ships of most sizes at that time. Cheers, Daniel
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Posted by cerberusjf on Friday, August 25, 2017 2:16 PM

Yes, they are to protect the hull and channels from the flukes of the anchor:-

 

from http://www.all-model.com/pages/Neophyte7.html

 

Yes the Professor is sadly missed, his posts were always very informative and interesting.  He is a real loss to the forum.  We are fortunate to have experts like dafi around. But still..

 

Best wishes,

John

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Posted by dafi on Friday, August 25, 2017 5:11 PM

Sorry, no-one can replace THE master. Sadly missed, but we will continue to do our best.

 

Cheers, DAniel

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, August 25, 2017 11:55 PM

thank's for that john , interesting reading ,funny name for it though , billboard ,

sorry michael but I had a go at copying your entry , hope you don't mind , not as grandious as your's ,[ don't know how you did those poles ] , I'm still to do the handrail .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, August 27, 2017 12:20 AM

 painted the two bottom deck's , put some scratch's in the upper gun deck to simulate decking , if anyone look's in the hull entry's .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, August 27, 2017 10:08 PM

does anyone know where I can buy some decent rudder hinge's , I'm sanding the copper tile's off of the bottom at the moment , and need to replace the molded one's , any help will be greatly appreciated , thank's . 

 steve5

 

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Posted by dafi on Monday, August 28, 2017 1:53 AM

Havent seen any decent ones to be bought yet ...

Evergreen stripes in the true scale for the sides/arms and triangles of 1 mm sheet for the pintle should do the job. At least did with me  ;-)

Cheers, Daniel

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 28, 2017 3:27 AM

thank's daniel , did know how you did your's , guess I was just being lazy , is that a .8mm drill bit in the back ground .

steve

 

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  • From: Ludwigsburg Germany
Posted by dafi on Monday, August 28, 2017 3:59 AM

Yes it is :-)

These are the small "messages to myself" in case I have to redo bits after some time. Works wonders with this fuzzy brain of mine :-)

More here

Posted February 16, 2013

XXXDAn

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 28, 2017 4:44 AM

thank's dafi I was just going over your whole build

http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/f162-HMS-Victory.html

 

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 28, 2017 5:30 AM

this is so much fun , sanding my fav , only because of the amount .

 

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  • From: Ludwigsburg Germany
Posted by dafi on Monday, August 28, 2017 6:48 AM

How do you do it? By Hand/sanding paper? I have to do this soon too, and am not decided yet how ...

XXXDAn

 

PS: OK if you go through my building report, then your are busy for the next 3 1/2 weeks ;-)

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 28, 2017 2:36 PM

yeah! mate , by hand , I started at 40 grit , 120 , 180 , 240 , 320 . 3-4 hour's worth . 

such fun , good luck daniel , but knowing your patience , this should be easy Big Smile

I also used a very fine file , to get close to the bottom wale .

are you doing an earlier version too daniel ?

steve

 

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  • From: Ludwigsburg Germany
Posted by dafi on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 12:53 AM

No, the later version ;-)

But she has to be recoppered as the existing scales look like the planking screme of Titanic ... 

xXXDAn

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 9:49 PM

 dafi this I am looking forward to , finished the handrail , now for some primer .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:56 AM

look's better the one colour

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Thursday, August 31, 2017 2:03 PM

No worries Steve, looking goodYes

 

Michael D.

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Thursday, August 31, 2017 2:30 PM

Steve, what are you using for copper plates? I used individual copper plates made for a model on my 1/96 Constitution, but that has been 35 years ago. They still look good & are all still on. I used Goo for glueing them on. It was like a contact cement. I might still have some, but probably not enough. Your work is beautiful. Your cannons are super. 

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, August 31, 2017 2:39 PM

thank's michael , gene , I am not putting copper plates on gene , I don't think they came about till the 1780's , the hull bottom will be just painted white mate ,

steve

 

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