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Official Ho229 Group Build

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Posted by traveller on Saturday, January 1, 2011 8:45 AM

Hi, just a quick question, when is it running to? I am waiting for some Japanese decals to arrive, but it seems someone has stolen my thunder...... Oh well, I may consider the Italian airforce, or Soviet airforce, who knows?Sleep Time for bed, its about 23DegC here now!! not minus stupid degrees!!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 31, 2010 5:21 PM

Thunderbolt379

Manny, the long antenna in that location is probably intended to be a Morane aerial, which IIRC was an IFF system, standard fit on 109s and 190s, so a fair bet for service inclusion...

Completing my Avia S-199 for IDF II hopefully today (and launching three builds as host!), touching the 229 is getting closer...

Cheers, Mike/TB379

Correct, the IFF was a lte-war addition seen primarily on 109 G-10's, G-14's and K-4's...as seen here both the direction finder loop and the IFF was fairly standard fare on late war a/c----in this case a G-10...My guess is that placement of the DF loop on top would make more sense...

 

 

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, December 31, 2010 5:01 PM

Manny, the long antenna in that location is probably intended to be a Morane aerial, which IIRC was an IFF system, standard fit on 109s and 190s, so a fair bet for service inclusion...

Completing my Avia S-199 for IDF II hopefully today (and launching three builds as host!), touching the 229 is getting closer...

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, December 31, 2010 12:41 PM

kermit

Zip it!Could this be H2(29)N...??Zip it!

Yes, very likely. It only seems to affect those who have been exposed to styrene...

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by kermit on Friday, December 31, 2010 12:30 PM

Zip it!Could this be H2(29)N...??Zip it!

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by p38jl on Friday, December 31, 2010 12:11 PM

VanceCrozier

Lurking and malingering continues... Dead  <--- sending Vance some cough syrup( Barcardi 151) a throat lozenge ( Lindor truffles ).. and some good cheer !! Stick out tongueHeadphones

 

ps.. think I'm getting this Manny 229 disease to,. sniffle...

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, December 31, 2010 11:17 AM

Sorry to hear about you being under the weather Vance. Take your time, not like we're going anywhere. Whistling

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, December 31, 2010 10:59 AM

Lurking and malingering continues... Dead

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 31, 2010 9:26 AM

The DF Loop (direction finder) antennae placement could be in either position---it was never fitted to the prototypes so it could have been placed in either location...the long antennae under the wing is also speculation...so their placement isn't "wrong", just speculative...

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Posted by kermit on Friday, December 31, 2010 9:21 AM

Well, i found a significant difference between the revell and dragon offering just now....

While i am finalizing the undercarriage assembly prior to decalling i was looking at the instructions as a preparation for what comes after that (little antennae, pitot tube, gun blast tubes etc.) and saw that the dragon offering has that ring-like antenna on the belly. The revell antenna is on top of the plane just aft of the canopy....

Who can give me the answer on who is correct here? Oh and for the history buffs amongst you: Why do those german planes have two antennae? (the ring thing and the long thin one under the wing).

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 30, 2010 5:12 PM

vetteman42

Vance sorry to hear that, hope you get back to your ole self soon and back to building.

Stop encouraging him---I will have no malingering in my Groupbuild...

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, December 30, 2010 1:59 PM

p38jl

 

 VanceCrozier:

 

Hey Vetteman, I'm stalled right now dealing with some family issues plus a bugger of a cold. Sitting down at the bench, uhhhh, causes my brain to leak as far as I can tell. Hoping to get some more done tonight though.

 

 

could the brain leakage be used as an eratz glue to hold your wooden wing together ?? humm.... Whistling

Thanks Vetteman, hoping to get some of these things cleared up! Glue P38?? Nahh, fabric dope MAYBE, but I don't think I'm at  the glue stage yet!

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, December 30, 2010 11:25 AM

Vance sorry to hear that, hope you get back to your ole self soon and back to building.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by p38jl on Thursday, December 30, 2010 9:38 AM

VanceCrozier

Hey Vetteman, I'm stalled right now dealing with some family issues plus a bugger of a cold. Sitting down at the bench, uhhhh, causes my brain to leak as far as I can tell. Hoping to get some more done tonight though.

 

could the brain leakage be used as an eratz glue to hold your wooden wing together ?? humm.... Whistling

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, December 30, 2010 9:32 AM

Hey Vetteman, I'm stalled right now dealing with some family issues plus a bugger of a cold. Sitting down at the bench, uhhhh, causes my brain to leak as far as I can tell. Hoping to get some more done tonight though.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Jester75 on Thursday, December 30, 2010 7:40 AM

Nice work on the 229's guys! The splinter looks great and the Ki is looking good too!! Just cut a few of the main parts off the sprues and dry fit some on my Dragon kit and man, this looks like its gonna be fun......Whistling

Eric

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:42 AM

The what if aspect of this group is really going to be fun me thinks, after all there was only one that flew with one set of markings. OH I can picture it now !! A 1/72 Ho 229 with a flame and skull scheme Yeah

Gamera gotta love the idea behind your build, cant wait to see more of the paint scheme YesYes

Kermit and you said you didnt do well with german paint schemes, yeah right Stick out tongue That splinter came out great IMHO and really makes that wingthing look sinister. Cant wait to see her all finished with the masking gone and those engines showing against the wing. Eats

Hey Vance hows the wooden Ho coming along ?

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:47 PM

~ lurking ~

Kermit - looking' good buddy, making great progress & thanks for all the build tips. Great to have someone forge ahead so the rest of the gang knows what to watch for!  The splinter camo on a 229 sort of looks like a naval "dazzle pattern", in a good way!

Gamera - I'm liking the Japanese-style wing stripes, and non-slip yellow leading edges.

Hoping to do some more rib-cutting tonight while my P-38 needs wait time in between stages. (And when my Censored cold medication isn't screwing me up!) Dead

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:03 PM

Thanks guys!

Really like the splinter camo Kermit, looks sharp (sorry bad pun...)

Yes, I'm aiming for a license built Japanese Ho. Was thinking at work today that the white home defense bands were applied to army a/c but I used navy green for the uppers. Oh well, in my fantasy scenerio the Japanese navy beginning in '46 painted white bands on their a/c too. I like the bands, without something like splinter camo I think the green would be too bland.

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Posted by kermit on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:47 AM

Gamera,

Suhweet paintjob!! You are planning a Jap 229?? How originalYesStick out tongue

AS for my own attempts at a splinter camo:

Still needs a yellow nose though.... Hope you guys like itWink

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by p38jl on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 8:44 AM

Swweet !! nice looking HO !Yes

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 6:03 PM

Oh yeah---nice to see all that non-slip gelb on the leading edge...Yes

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:19 PM

Richard: Looking good! I was wondering why the Revell 1/72nd kit looks almost as if it were designed to display the engine when there is no engine! Looks like they just pantographed the Dragon kit down and didn't change much of the features! Indifferent

Anyway friends, frogs, and field marshals the Ki-229 is painted. Still need to do a little touch-up work but it shouldn't be long before I can get some gloss and decals on her:

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:44 AM

Is it done yet Richard ????? Eats

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by kermit on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:44 AM

Ummm... that would be the closest i got to RLM 71, dunkelgrun....?Zip it!

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:32 AM

kermit

I'm so sorry Manny... But our (dutch) xmass lasts two days, not one.... Sorry excuse but there you have it.

After closing it all up and sanding the heck out of it i started painting. I chose a rlm 70/71 over 76 splinter camo:

http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx202/kermit77/Dragon_Go229_1_48scale/DSCN2109.jpg

I must warn all who will build the dragon: You will encounter revell/ monogram type of wing/ fuselage joints and particularly difficult was the nose piece to forward fuselage join. It made fitting the canopy a nightmare for me and took lots of fitting and fiddling around.

The engine hatches are glued on with microscale's Micro liquitape. First time i used that and appearantly it works like a yellow post-it note. You can take it off and put it on indefinately and still it should stick into place.... verdict to follow... Hope you guys like my work sofar...

Richard

Is that primer you have it in or one of the greens you are using in the scheme?

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Posted by vetteman42 on Monday, December 27, 2010 11:57 AM

Richard ohhhhhhh the 229 is looking good, cant wait to see the splinter camo on that wing. I have some of the liquitape too, but haven't used it yet, so please let us know how it works. I am happy as ........well I am glad you don't have to hide those engines, they came out too well to be hidden from view.

Hey just a thought maybe you could take a pic of one of the 1/72 builds next to this beast for giggles ??

I have made a note to self about the Revell-O-Dragon fit Stick out tongue

Eats

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 27, 2010 11:48 AM

Very nice finish you achieved after al of that filling and sandingYes...so if I understand you, you will be able to pull those engine access panels off after painting to show the engines?

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Posted by kermit on Monday, December 27, 2010 10:55 AM

I'm so sorry Manny... But our (dutch) xmass lasts two days, not one.... Sorry excuse but there you have it.

After closing it all up and sanding the heck out of it i started painting. I chose a rlm 70/71 over 76 splinter camo:

I must warn all who will build the dragon: You will encounter revell/ monogram type of wing/ fuselage joints and particularly difficult was the nose piece to forward fuselage join. It made fitting the canopy a nightmare for me and took lots of fitting and fiddling around.

The engine hatches are glued on with microscale's Micro liquitape. First time i used that and appearantly it works like a yellow post-it note. You can take it off and put it on indefinately and still it should stick into place.... verdict to follow... Hope you guys like my work sofar...

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 27, 2010 8:28 AM

Hmmmm...progress is slowing to a crawl...haven't heard anything from the frog or Vance...

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