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The Official F4U Corsair Group Build 4/01/08 - rolling end date

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Posted by mark983 on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:23 PM

Fred,

 

Looking forward to the GB..I am acutally going to purchase my corsair on the official start date but need to update you.. I will still be modeling the "Black Sheep Squadron" but put me down for a Tamiya F4U-1A.

Mark

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Posted by Summit on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:02 PM
Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D] My Corsair Book from Squadron and PE parts Finailly Arrived Today ! Party [party]
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Posted by Hartmann352 on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:21 PM

Regarding the chap that is requesting to come in, but is 98% done...Hate to be the party pooper here, but my vote is 'Nay'....like Gig typed...the idea is to do all, or most of the work during the time allotted. If it was say...he had only the 'Pit done, and maybe the Power plant done, (granted those are the 2 areas that will take me the longest & give me the most fits), but to just do all the tiddying up right when it kicks off...nah...there was another earlier in the thread that posted his 21stC build, but it's not the entry. My Humble recomendation, is to get another & enter that. Another COA is post what in a pic wht you hvae...then the more experienced on here can better evaluate how far along it is, then make the call...(Never buy a car unseen).

(either way the vote goes, I would still love to see the 'in work' & the finished product in question)

But is the applicant truly feels that he has 2% to go, then Wammo! He's done...then no, pick up another Bent wing bird & hit the bricks runnin' when the rest of us do.

Speaking for myself only, I have 3 in the works for 2 other GBs now. Once those are wrapped up then I can dig into this one. (It's a Trump, so l;ots of fiddly bits, gonna need all the time I can get.)

"And that's all I got to say about that" ...Forest Gump.....My 2 cents [2c]...do with what you will.

Make a Toast [#toast]

Dave

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Posted by firesmacker on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:41 PM

Fred and all,

In the interest of full disclosure, my PE parts arrived on Friday the 14th and I painted all of the Office interior green parts over the weekend. To be honest, i didn't pay enough attention to the start date. I signed up for the Big Cats GB around the same time and for some reason, I thought our start date was March 15th.

So, long story short, the 'pit is done but I'm gonna put her on the shelf for a week or 2. I need a break anyway. I used the Eduard Zoom set and frankly, working with parts that are roughly the size of a human hair is nerve wracking for me. It's my first time ever working with PE and I learned some important lessons like, "not every PE piece neccesaraly makes the kit look better." I have seen others say the same thing on here in different threads but, I guess I had to learn the hard way...

I'll post pics of my progress in the next few days. But for the time being I have a 1/48 P-51B and a BF-109 Trop already put together and just waiting for exterior paint. 

Regards,

Jeff 

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Posted by darson on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:27 PM

Hi guys I have a quick question for you, is there a cut-off date for joining this build?

I am keen to join but it won't be for a few months yet as I have other GB commitments that I want to finish first.

Cheers

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Posted by Vampyre on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:35 AM
 DrewH wrote:
 luvsjets wrote:

Hi Fred,

I'm a little new here, but not new to modeling.

I'd like to add my name to the list and model a Tamiya 1/72 F4U-1A Corsair.

In the memory of my dad, I'd like to do this paint scheme.

(dad is pictured here flying his Navy issue Corsair over Orange County. November, 1953)

  

Thanks!

James, I hate to break it to you, but that's a F4U-4B. I'm not sure who made in 72 scale, I think Academy may have did one, I know they did in 48th scale as well as Hasagawa.

But that is so cool you're building your dads plane. Bravo.

  Looking at the pic a bit closer reveals this to be a vanilla F4U-4. The F4U-4B had four 20mm cannons and this one definatly has the six .50's which makes it a F4U-4. I am a bit envious of your choice of subject and its personal significance.

Vamp

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Posted by darson on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:36 AM
 luvsjets wrote:

Hi Fred,

I'm a little new here, but not new to modeling.

I'd like to add my name to the list and model a Tamiya 1/72 F4U-1A Corsair.

In the memory of my dad, I'd like to do this paint scheme.

(dad is pictured here flying his Navy issue Corsair over Orange County. November, 1953)

  

Thanks!

James absolutely outstanding source of subject matter by the way, I'm sure you'll do your dad's bird justice Thumbs Up [tup].

As for the F4U-4 the only options you have in 1/72 are the Matchbox/Revell kit Yuck [yuck], the Italeri kit Yuck [yuck], or the Hobby Boss kit which is a little light on cockpit detail but otherwise is a nice kit.

In 1/48 you have there is no F4U-4 kit (go figure) but the only real difference between the dash 4 and the dash 4B is the dropping of the 6 x 50 cals in favour of 4 x 20mm cannons.  The Hasegawa F4U-4B is ok but a little sparse on cockpit detail and has raised panel lines.  Your best bet in this scale is the Academy kit and do a little scratch building in the machine gun dept.

Cheers

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Posted by piperjoe on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:57 AM
Please see later posts.
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Posted by Gigatron on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:08 AM

Don't worry about it, Joe.  It's only a matter of experience from reading all those instruction sheets.

-Fred

 

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Posted by Gigatron on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:12 AM

Don't worry about it, Jeff.  You're still far enough from being anywhere near done that it won't affect anything.  I say as long as you can hold off on the rest until the start date, everything is A-OK.

Darren, the only cutoff is the amount of time you'd need to build it by the end date.  Say you think it will take 2 months to build, then the cutoff date would be 2 months prior to April 1st, 2009.

-Fred

 

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Posted by luvsjets on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:15 PM

Hey Darren,

 Thanks for the suggestions. I have a 1/72 Tamiya and Italeri kits coming to me in a few days.

I'll take a look at them and decide if I want to jump up to 1/48th. ( I am limited in the space department)

The Hasagawa has raised panel lines!SoapBox [soapbox] Might not stop me. Heck, I may even consider 1/32.

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Posted by dirtball on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:33 PM
  OH, please do a 1/32. Looks like ther is only 5 of us doing larger scale. I personaly want to see more 1/32nd kits for selfish reasons!
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Posted by Gigatron on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:00 PM

 dirtball wrote:
  OH, please do a 1/32. Looks like ther is only 5 of us doing larger scale. I personaly want to see more 1/32nd kits for selfish reasons!

Trust me, Harv, if space were unlimited, all my builds would be 1/32.  I love having the extra room to super-detail things.

-Fred

 

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Posted by dirtball on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:33 PM
  Speaking of detail, I have a ? for all. The LONESTAR pit set I got, although very detailed has it probs I`m finding out. One big one is there seems to be lots of rubber mold still stuck in ribbs and creveses on the IP section. Is there an easy way to remove this ? I`ve tried picking out, brushing out and even tried to cut out with hobby knife, with very little luck. I`m seriously considering getting one of the other pit sets. Have also noticed alot (repairable) of bubbles even on ribbs. So any suggestions??............Harv
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Posted by Gigatron on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:40 PM

Hey Harv,

I don't know much about getting the RTV mold out of the piece as casting really isn't my bag.  I'm sure you can look up 'dissolving RTV rubber' on google or something and find something.

As far as the air bubbles go, if they're small, use CA to fill them.  Just be sure to sand them after they've dried, but before they've cured.

-Fred

 

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Posted by JMart on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:42 PM

"In 1/48 you have there is no F4U-4 kit (go figure) "

My 1/48 Revell Corsair is F4U-4 (#85-5248); never built it up nor even opened the box, cant tell you anything about quality. If you still need a F4U-4 to build up in your Dad's markings, you are welcome to mine.

Funny thing happens when you order from Lucky Models, you tend to forget sometimes stuff is coming... I got a box with an armor kit and the 1/48 Academy F4U-1 BirdCage I ordered 5 months ago :). Any comments on this kit?

 

 

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Posted by dirtball on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:22 PM
 Does anyone know of AM drop tanks and pylons for the D model? For the Revell. I was surprised the kit dosent come with them....Harv
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Posted by kenjitak on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:56 PM

Please include me in this GB. I'm planning to do the Special Hobby 1/48 F2G Super Corsair done in the Sohio #57 trim, something a bit different from all that blue!

 

Ken

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Posted by luvsjets on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:10 PM
 Gigatron wrote:

 dirtball wrote:
  OH, please do a 1/32. Looks like ther is only 5 of us doing larger scale. I personaly want to see more 1/32nd kits for selfish reasons!

Trust me, Harv, if space were unlimited, all my builds would be 1/32.  I love having the extra room to super-detail things.

-Fred

As I think about it, I might just do a 1/32nd, since I'll be displaying it with the photo etc...

And, it will save my eyeballs.

What kit do you suggest?

James Melvin
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Posted by luvsjets on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:38 PM

 JMart wrote:
My 1/48 Revell Corsair is F4U-4 (#85-5248); never built it up nor even opened the box, cant tell you anything about quality. If you still need a F4U-4 to build up in your Dad's markings, you are welcome to mine.


Thanks for the offer. I thinking I might jump up to 1/32.

James Melvin
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Posted by Jaypack55 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:38 PM
 Gigatron wrote:

Well, here's my logical thinking; I'm not looking to keep anyone out, the more the merrier.  But, the idea of the group build is to build alongside other members to share tips and ideas.  It's more than just people who like corsairs, it's about sharing the commonality of the build, to build alongside other members - a virtual workshop, if you will.

If you're 99% complete before we start and most likely will be completely finished before the rest of the group starts, you're missing the key component of being in a group build - building with the group.  Now if he were to pick up a second corsair to build along with us, I'd put him on the list, no questions asked.  But as it stands, neither he nor the members of the GB really stand to benefit.  He gets a badge without actually participating in the build itself, and he doesn't really learn any building tips from us, nor us from him. 

It's like walking along the road and a marathon comes up behind you when you're 10 feet from the finish line.  Do you share in the celebratory process the same as the people who ran the 26 miles or share their comraderie? 

I'm just concerned that the meaning of the GB badge will lose all meaning if we just hand it out to people who just happen to claim that they like the subject we're modeling without actually participating in the build.

But like I've said, I'll leave it up to the majority of the GB.  I'll give it till the end of the week so more members get a chance to weigh in.

Though, this does pose an interesting area of debate.  I may pose this question in the aircraft forum, just to see what the current thinking on this is.

-Fred

 

Hey, it's OK if you don't think I should be in it, It doesn't matter all that much to me. I'll respect your opinion, and so I'll retract my requet for now. However, I like the idea of a second corsair-I'm thinking about getting another -1D and building an RN Corsair IV. If that happens, I'll definitely be in... Smile [:)]

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by piperjoe on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:56 PM

Please see later posts.

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Posted by Hartmann352 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:21 PM
 piperjoe wrote:

Come on and join us Jaypack55...bring on that RN Corsair IV!! (What be that anywayWhistling [:-^] ? )

 

Just taking a stab in the dark here...(get out of the way!!!!)  but here's my guess...

RN Corsair IV---RN, Royal Navy....Corsair..Um Duh. Big Smile [:D]....IV...it has a needle in a hydraulic line...no really...MkIV, (Roman numeral 4). ....but that is purely speculation, from an uneducated person...Make a Toast [#toast]

Dave

 

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Posted by Jaypack55 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:22 PM
 piperjoe wrote:

Come on and join us Jaypack55...bring on that RN Corsair IV!! (What be that anywayWhistling [:-^] ? )

sorry, I should have elaborated- I meant a Royal Navy Corsair Mk. IV (basically a -1D with clipped wingtips to fit in the Brits' hangar decks).

Anywho, If I can get the money together, (I'm kinda broke right now...) I'll order a kit first chance I get!

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by Summit on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:35 PM
 Jaypack55 wrote:

sorry, I should have elaborated- I meant a Royal Navy Corsair Mk. IV (basically a -1D with clipped wingtips to fit in the Brits' hangar decks).

Anywho, If I can get the money together, (I'm kinda broke right now...) I'll order a kit first chance I get!

Sigh, If I could only be 17 and Broke again Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by dirtball on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:37 PM
  Hey all, does any body know if the AIRES wheel well set will fit the REVELL 1/32 ? Or would you have to modify it? Thanks...........Harv
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Posted by kenjitak on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:45 PM

No progress pics to post yet but here's a few photos of some Corsairs from around the country to get everyone revved up!

This is from Wings Over The Rockies Air and Space  Museum in Denver:

This is from Evergreen Air Venture Museum near Portland:

this is at the Museum of Flight in Seattle

This is from the Lone Star Flight Museum in Galveston

 

Ken

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Posted by spong on Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:08 AM

Guys hi

Finally got a chance to do some typing.(some comments)

1.James your 1/72nd X15 very very cool (I love the X15)

2.Re the guy with the 98% finished kit...Let him finish BUT he can only work on it if he's drunk 12 VBs (a great beer from Australia this should equalize things)

3. This is my plan  complete (A) RNZAF P40,(B)Build 1/72nd Fokker triplane to put with my Richthofen Bust,(C)F86 as Edwin 'Buzz' Aldrins mount  (D)Corsair... plus various figures I'm a figure painter after all

I'm working on the theory of a steep learning curve as the P40 will ber my first aircraft in 20+ years have done figures and 1 X15 I figure I can stagger the builds

God I need help...

Chris

PSwhere can I get info on Buzz Aldrins A/C i've only seen 1 photo

 

 

 

 

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Posted by dirtball on Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:30 AM
  Does anyone know if F4u`s carried the same style drop tanks as the P47 and P38?? If so, I might have my drop tanks for the build............Harv
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Posted by DrewH on Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:58 AM
Yes they did. Marines would bolt on what ever they could get their hands on. The Navy birds were pretty much normal style that you know. Most of the tanks were used for Napalm, and were pretty beat up. I have a dvd that shows them on Marine corsairs and some excellent footage showing that the tri color scheme isn't always what we think it looks like Wink [;)]
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